obviously they didn't listen to management's statement regarding this question on the call:
Vivek Arya - Bank of America
Got it. And one last one for Devinder, Devinder I think you mentioned low double-digit operating margin from the new wins that you have in consoles, I assume that is exclusive of the royalties and is that an initial profitability level, and does it get better than that or is that sort of a run-rate level over time?
Devinder Kumar - Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
I think we are giving guidance for Q3 and guiding to the low single-digit from a Q3 standpoint. As you can imagine, this business, the semi-custom business and game console, in particular, has a long lifeline and over time the mix between the ASPs and the cost can change, so looking out in the future it’s hard to tell, but at least at the starting point for the next couple of quarters I would target at the low double-digit.