Texman, the power of the internet huh?? Hell everyone reads this board! If everyone doesn't know already, Ray Dirks is quite often the "guest speaker" at equities magazine's conferences (where Vaph is "presenting" to a room full of chairs tomorrow). Really makes that conference look impressive now!! Longs (HRC in particular), can you really say this doesn't bother you? Everytime I pull up some info on VAPH my 12 week old throws up on me...must be an omen!