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  • psalmchapter51 psalmchapter51 Mar 29, 2013 12:32 PM Flag

    Appears 10-K and 10-K Have NOT Been Filed

    I have read all the speculation concerning the alleged early reporting of FY 12 and Q4 12 results. And, with a closer look at the SEC filings, appears PEIX had only filed an 8-K on WED night and NOT the 10-K and 10-Q, respectively. So, it would seem reasonable to assume PEIX will file these documents on MON APR 1 AH as originally scheduled.

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    • Your headline says the 10-k and the 10-k have not been filed. Just wondered if it was deja vu all over again.

    • MK, I may not have been precise...this stuff from Thursday is a REPEAT of what transpired in January...apparently Jan effort didn't finalize, so they reworked it, and NOW they have that extra 3% (total 83%). That financial for "year end 12/31/2012" showing ANNUAL loss (-$.04) really, really threw me for a loop.

      Those numbers for 4th qtr ended 12/31/2012 HAVE been restated...annual loss was (-$.04) [perhaps old document was scrubbed,, couldn't find it [but the previous financials were in November] but I seem to remember (-$.07 or some such)...that is a VERY good number and a VERY positive sign for Monday's numbers, because as MK has been repeatedly posting, the improving numbers updated as she gets them, negative margins turned positive at the beginning of Feb. and then "along came [Mary]" the carbon credits...and then up pops great RIN numbers.

      Sko says he gets email right from IR...well, IR is run by an outside company...remember?...and somebody got the headlines wrong...and then - monkey see monkey do - it was a freakin' parade across the media.

      I think we can safely presume there will be a genuine 10k on Monday. Let us not will be what it will be...NK and the Gang have been busting their little tushes to get back to 100%...maybe cut 'em some slack on Tuesday?

    • 8K was filed from Prospectus

      10K and 10Q still to Come

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      • dstmkt Mar 29, 2013 2:26 PM Flag

        Kelly you are right. These are unaudited results.........But how can so many financial websites are reporting this information as news of reported FY 12 result. It is difficult to understand.

        READ the beginning of 8-k

        The following financial information is a summary of our unaudited financial information for the three months and year ended December 31, 2012. We have not yet finalized our consolidated financial results for the year ended December 31, 2012. The summary financial information presented below is unaudited and may differ materially from our audited financial statements for the year ended December 31, 2012 when such audited financial statements are available.

      • could the numbers be different on Monday? could they have beat?

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