Ouch. this patent was filed in 2006. They have talked about this before. As they wsere trying to apply for a workaround. But the fact is. They did not have it. So backdating and saying they have it now is their only chance for sympathy from the judges. If they pull this off then everyone with a patent can do a workaround and the whole system is a joke. I think some judges can not be bought and will vote in TIVO's favor.