First time I can remember seeng three different dates on the message board list. I think what we have here is a very quiet board respective to REFR. And I think I know why. It's a "who's going to be the first to let the cat out of the bag" syndrome. The home window people will be the first to let out real news in their sector first I'm betting, and that will be significant. But no where near as intense as the big auto makers. Then the automotive people. Though I'm guessing they will wait until some auto spy group lets out so much info about one of them that they will have to pre release a little marketing material. I'm pretty sure that they want to avoid that at all costs because they still have a large invintory of 2003 models they want to sell. We will be seeing panoramic roofs everywhere, not all of them will be SPD. An good example is the new cadillac SRX (I think its SRX anyway). But they have this big ass mechanical roof you have to open, that's if you really want to see stars and if it isn't too cold out there. I think we (longs) will just keep popping in here and there to check the volume, until the real volume hits us. Then bob's you uncle. In the mean while shorty will keep trickle covering and some of us will keep topping off our tanks with a little more here and a little more there. JMHO On the psychic side I expect to see $20 in a month or there abouts dunno why. The Great Karnak has spoken. Now I must rest.