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barfonbroker 208 posts  |  Last Activity: Jul 12, 2016 9:00 AM Member since: Sep 5, 2001
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    aisan0110 Exposed

    by biospeculator2014 Jul 10, 2016 3:34 PM
    barfonbroker barfonbroker Jul 12, 2016 9:00 AM Flag

    I don't really care about this price thing between you and mangina. Everybody pretty much knows that when he or bear touch their keyboards they begin an endless array of lies. Guess someone's gotta respond to him but those pukes are getting no more of my time.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    bear of bull vs. numbers and facts

    by biospeculator2014 Jul 10, 2016 3:44 PM
    barfonbroker barfonbroker Jul 10, 2016 8:23 PM Flag

    when Plecanatide comes out and its commercials feature much less time needed in disclosure of side affects than Linzess....I tend to think these are the things consumers consider when making a decision to go with a particular drug. Even in a pill no bigger than a grain of sand Linzess packs more diarrhea punch than a normal treatment of Plecanatide.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    bear of bull vs. numbers and facts

    by biospeculator2014 Jul 10, 2016 3:44 PM
    barfonbroker barfonbroker Jul 10, 2016 8:17 PM Flag

    aha!...you may have hit the nail on the head with your last sentence.also consider he's in LUV with IRWD stock and yet seldom posts over there????hmmmm, seems he's worried about something....lol

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • barfonbroker barfonbroker Jul 9, 2016 6:02 PM Flag

    I do think it's possible that they are really that stupid...a toenail has a higher IQ than these bashers.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • barfonbroker barfonbroker Jun 12, 2016 8:13 PM Flag

    U is someone no one wants to beeee! Aha-aha-aha-aaaaaw!

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    Aisan0011 is correct. This is a POS stock

    by ad_1778 May 17, 2016 4:53 PM
    barfonbroker barfonbroker Jun 12, 2016 8:10 PM Flag

    The day will come...because of people like you that the message board will NOT be such an easy forum for expressing one's opinion....just like it's illegal to go into a crowded theater and start yelling 'FIRE'! The freedom you have on internet should be more respected by YOU and therefore you should control what babble you posts...want to contribute...fine! but a person who has no position is not contributing anything. BUT! I don't want to know your position in SGYP as that, in your mind, may position you as someone like a Warren Buffett and .....THAT!...you are NOT! Thanks....sorry I didn't leave you on ignore Assian....

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • at a beach building sand castles, getting a bad sun burn and burning the soles of his feet on the hot sand. Given all that....there's just no time to be pulling all the IDs out so he just used Assian and Ad jerk....he'll bring back the full assortment this week...

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    Aisan0011 is correct. This is a POS stock

    by ad_1778 May 17, 2016 4:53 PM
    barfonbroker barfonbroker Jun 12, 2016 2:47 PM Flag

    just like your other ID...Assian.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    Aisan0011 is correct. This is a POS stock

    by ad_1778 May 17, 2016 4:53 PM
    barfonbroker barfonbroker Jun 12, 2016 2:46 PM Flag

    or the better point...what makes it your board since you have no position on shares? a pos is a pos is a pos....and you sir...are a pos. Thanks!

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • barfonbroker barfonbroker Jun 11, 2016 11:40 AM Flag

    my new term for 'shorts' is 'jackals'...the word seems more appropriate.

  • How Financial Engineers are ruining the market, the economy and your life.
    The truth about Shorting Stocks.

    Robert Innes Dec 18, 2008. Updated from time to time.

    The Problem
    Do you know why pensions are melting and jobs are disappearing? We entrusted our financial system to banks, regulators and central banks but they (and our political masters) began to manipulate the system to benefit themselves. Our own financial advisors (let's call them our shepherds) lulled us to sleep singing "buy and hold", "markets create wealth", "don't worry about the short term", and other soothers while they convert our money savings into stocks, bonds commodities, futures, ABCPs and other financial instruments which they load into pools, plans and funds. This assignment of our capital is supposed to benefit both us and the market but instead of sitting quietly, hoping to grow, our instruments are inspected by shadowy marauders who look for something juicy to "sell short", a favourite game that profits from distress.

    In the shorting game, shorters, (I like to call them Jackals) who can be hedge funds, brokers or individuals, borrow or rent our shares (or other instruments, especially those that have done well) from managers of our funds, accounts and plans, and then actually sell them to new suckers. Short selling is the reverse of buying a stock or 'going long'. I had heard the term but did not appreciate what it really meant. Now two suckers own the same shares !!! Isn't that DUPLICATION? (8) Duplication, undermines the value of our shares (Jackals profit from the fall. "FRAUD" - we whimper!!! Look and you will find some fine print you should have read about the borrowing, but why did we not understand what was going on? Did you ever notice anything missing in your account? Did you get a call or a notice? Gee, they don't think to tell us do they. There are even worser jackals, illegal jackals, called naked shorters (1) who don't even bother renting your shares (whew!?) but freed thus of any cost, happily create pure counterfeit shares with abandon, further undermining our shares with unlimited illegal supply of new shares. Maybe your broker bought some for your account. It is a self fulfilling strategy. And what difference does it really make if the shares were borrowed or not, - either way, there are new owners in the marketplace that came in to buy those duplicates or counterfeits or whatever you call them, either way, our assets are undermined. (10) If, like me, you have difficulty getting your mind around all this, please reread or discuss with a friend - you must understand these unbelievable basics.

    The process continues, the number of duplicates increases, enough new suckers to saturate the market (10), rumours are spread - by jackals, many falsely, until the shares crash. But real businesses wobble, unable to keep credit lifelines open against a low share/ commodity price, shareholders panic and sell back to jackals waiting to close on their evil profits. Too often, the business collapses, people lose their jobs, all in the name of "oh, well it was bound to happen eventually" (11) But workers got paychecks until that "eventually". Why the rush to destroy? Silly us for thinking the market was an engine of creativity and growth - jackals sing that song to get our plaything assets.

    Say it ain't so
    Shorters wail their siren song of benefits for the markets, media minions are impressed. Yes they cry, we must have shorters, they weed out the unfit, the bad apples, they deflate bubbles. Broker balladeers, that commissioned band, sing lusty tales of swashbuckling shorters, bravely ignoring infinite risk (shares could go up forever) to grapple valiantly with mighty pump and dumpsters while struggling, dear sheeple, to provide liquidity so you can sell your shares back to them - at a nice low price. Jackal-shorts thank you. Did they mention their "short and distort" fearmongering (Illegal, as if that matters! Google the term for more info) or "Bear Raids"(3) or manipulation (14) or "death spiral financing" (16) or or "Short and Sue" (19)? Delicious! The hype and overstatement of those benefits and the cynical blaming everything on naked shorting, blinds us to how ALL shorting undermines the market, the economy and real employers. (4) The few true crooks they attack, usually small time hucksters, are not worth the millions of jobs lost in the process, for they know not when to stop. Any weakness, like that caused by this genuine market crisis, when even the best wobble, (4) is cause enough to jump on the bandwagon, smothering life, hope, and worsening, not lessening the storm we are in.(13) Volatility(11), the jackals' friend, is increased. It is moral hazard to reward jackals for this - the population of jackals increases in response. Should I fight them ... .or join them?

    What about the government referee, the Securities Commission... the SECsnakes that slithered out of the bankster bushes (20)(21), to run the joint? Does the duplication or destructive volatility bother them? Where are they when the jackals run rampant? While The SECsnakes piously crow about the illegality of naked shorting (1,14) , we are left with three ugly choices: either they can't stop it or they wont stop it or we accept the proposition that it makes no difference if shorts are naked or legal. Snakes revel in mayhem, not caring that sheeples' savings are the base of our economic pyramid. As Cramer says, (5) they rig the game for their friends - its not a level playing field (8): Uptick rule(12), the old game controller, is gone. No trading limits on shares as there are for companies (5). Turning a blind eye is much easier than the dreary business of doing what governments ought to do - discover and punish wrongdoing, setting limits. (6) Recent rule changes (14) are a joke. Salting the wound, ask yourself how both sets of shareowners can vote at the AGM as does happen (ie. more shares than the float shows up)? (17) No serial number? No problem, you can still vote, just fill in the form. Few are interested so all can be accommodated. Services exist to ensure this. You must conclude that the game is now rigged. Our broker shepherds are co-opted. We cannot win. Flee the markets.

    II
    How did we come to this?
    For a long long time the market operated to create wealth and prosperity. Sensible rules were in place, advice and overheads of paper certificates imposed stiff transaction costs and kept markets relatively slow and boring but easily spawning new factories and jobs. Slowly, ties to paper were lost, the investing world dematerialized, our shares reduced to mere blips, perfect cover for jackals. Safeguards were lost22): merchant banksters marry investment whores so our advisers are compromised to say the least. Despite the meltdown, precautionary rules have still not been reinstated!!! Duh! New technology brought new horizons: cheap trades, instant blips, ETFs, short ETFs, double up/down ETFs, structured investments and much more. Hedge funds, now comprising about 1/4 of the entire market, are the ultimate expression of this lunacy - all long positions are balanced by short positions (hence the term hedge). Bottom line, shorting is so easy. Anyone can do it from the kitchen table. Jackals in training. Fun and games with our blips.

    The cause of our distress at present is in the changed nature of the bubble and its more devastating aftermath. Without shorts, stocks might indeed rise high above fair value. It only takes a few excited buyers on the margins to drive prices up. Imprudent people become the final suckers, sensible people recoil at the price. This bubble may be high but it halts of its own accord (at least without Greenspan around). Late buyers have to wait a long time to recover value, but if the company survives, even this is possible. This Darwinian lesson is beneficial.

    With shorters in the picture, Jackals recognize overpricing sooner and the game begins. The price suppression effect means this bubble does not grow so high, but it grows very F A T as even sensible people buy the more reasonably priced duplicates. Shorters like fat bubbles (7), the fatter the better. The price suppression may be called "consolidation" and is said to be an ideal buying point, something you might recognize. More people pile in - buyers getting used up. Huge Hedge funds can really blow bubbles up FFAATT. They hardly bother with mere companies, they operate at blowing up whole sectors like the North American auto industry, or even entire nations (currencies). The phantom float can grow by 50% or even 95% (17,9)! Did you realize the market cap listed in those nice (free) information pages does not reflect these trillions of phony shares? Short data is slow to reach the market, is hard to find, is unreliable and therefore not incorporated in our calculations. They really don't want us to know, especially the Toronto exchange. The downslope is devastating as all those extra 50% plus the original 100% head for the exit (14). Buyers got used up, none left. No wonder shorted stocks fall to the sub-sub-sub-basement, much more devastating than a gradual unwinding of a simple overbought stock. More wealth is transferred from the investing public / wealth creators to destructive jackals than with simple bubbles (price lost x [all shares floated PLUS QUANTITY SHORTED]). The extreme volatility /decline affects the company's financing in a vicious cycle. Many companies cannot recover - The process is too fast to allow businesses to reformulate themselves. The lost jobs are real even if the shares were not. This lesson is simply destructive - no Darwinian benefit
    unless it is to drive all ordinary folk and pension funds from the market.
    Consequences
    Even worse, the destructive volatility (12) erases smaller, weaker players which in turn concentrates activities in fewer hands (jackals lovingly call it "industry consolidation" - think commissions) which in turn concentrates control. The rich get richer and more powerful as the increasing numbers of poor have less and less leverage. Unfortunately, concentrated control, instead of leading to stability, eventual leads to instability as we have seen both recently in the financial meltdown, and before in the breakdown of Communism. We should take our cue from the natural world which favours the existence of more, not fewer, species (businesses).

    The fix
    This deplorable situation is easily salvaged. Simply abolish shorting (especially in bear markets and during this time of decline relative to other nations). Jackals should not be free to attack savings of individual sheeple (as is the case in some markets). Ruination only makes for enslavement, not productivity. Fortunately, a safe parallel system already exists - our sophisticated options marketplace that has merely to be expanded to provide options for all stocks. Thus, skeptics, cynics and even addicted jackals can play to their hearts content in a "fenced in" area without disturbing the underlying shares or companies involved. Markets, freed of the machinations of shorters, will become more boring but ultimately more productive of true wealth. Despite anticipated howls of protest, price will be discovered anyway - just more slowly.

    Of course, taking away rape and pillage profits is sure to outrage the present crop of Jackals. Expect protest that this cannot work. Hold firm if you value your future and that of our children. Make no mistake, the stakes are the continued wellbeing of America and other democracies, all dependent on the creativity of capitalism/ markets to best provide for our future. Please note that while this article has only described the action of shorters in the stock market, all financial markets are similarly affected (futures, commodities, precious metals, even sub-prime mortgages).(7) (18) There no hiding from these jackals

    Be warned that any legal shorting creates a vicious paradox. Imagine wanting our drinking water laced with e-coli in order to kill off the unfit among us. Legal shorting virtually guarantees the existence of illegal (naked) shorting, and all the attendant manipulation (14), destructive volatility, etc. Naked short selling destroys companies (3) which in turn destroys the resources required to investigate illegalities. Ergo, end shorting completely*.
    *Note: A few forms of forward selling such as hedging by farmers and miners pose no problem to the market provided all players are treated honestly.

    In the meantime, investors can try to protect themselves by regaining control, favouring (honest) brokers over mutual funds and then designating their accounts as "non-margin" (cash /segregated account) which will hopefully discourage the borrowing of your shares. (Disclaimer - obtain the advice of a professional.) The other protection, obtaining a physical certificate, is terminated in the US as of Jan 2009. (15) Talk about the chickens being outfoxed. Its about time the chickens-sheeple got mad.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • barfonbroker barfonbroker Jun 11, 2016 11:01 AM Flag

    Looking over YOUR contributions on the boa- ad....is to definitely discover that you have none. seems pretty apparent you are another ID of Assians and you should be ignored and thus it will be...

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • without it...and that's a good thing.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    Aisan0011 is correct. This is a POS stock

    by ad_1778 May 17, 2016 4:53 PM
    barfonbroker barfonbroker Jun 11, 2016 10:51 AM Flag

    bump

  • Reply to

    Aisan0011 is correct. This is a POS stock

    by ad_1778 May 17, 2016 4:53 PM
    barfonbroker barfonbroker Jun 11, 2016 10:46 AM Flag

    This is the guy giving advice??? stick your opinions up where the sun never shines ad_1778

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • SPHS today is running on some good results in the cancer field....now you talk about a crowded field to be competing in...and they have $5 Mill in the bank and yet it jumps to 100 + percent today on a hope it works..longshot sort of drug. SGYP has performed greatly...has money in bank....has FDA reviewing the NDA and likelihood of more successes in pipeline for future NDA's...has been beaten down below $6 which is a travesty. No reason for SGYP to have been done as dirty as it has except that IRWD exist in the same space and they are nothing but crooks that probably have been involved in the naked shorting of SGYP just to try and inflict some damage...with all that said....SGYP will rise and shine much brighter than IRWD since Linzess is the inferior drug.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • should be clear sailing to much higher numbers. Either be a long and hold and sell now and buy back in much cheaper..glty

  • phase trials....I'll title it...'Why Ironwood employees are curled up in fetal position in corner of rooms sucking their thumbs'....

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • cheer up that disposition of yours.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • asked around and confirmed that SGYP has been brutally beaten down...from there, Cramer just speaks in generalities rather than buy, sell or don't do anything...do notice he's just too much up Celgene's butt at the moment but that's his problem...not ours. Up will continue to be the trend for SGYP....I can't get it to seep into you guys noggins but there's recovering value just to get back to reasonable valuation prior to more news releases and that number is above $6....the second reason for advancement in valuation after we get above $6 is the science itself...best in class....best in class....best in class etc etc....nuff said...like it if you're a 'long' or lump it if you're a 'short'.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

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