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  • Hosea 13:16King James Version (KJV)

    "16 Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up."

    Now how does this not translate into an atrocity? Is this not equal to God destroying fetuses?? I know it is not a pleasant subject, but denying this happened is cherry picking the WORD and we both know you would never do that, lol.

  • Texas Judge Carlo Key renounced the Republican Party and switched his allegiance to the Democrats.
    Texas Judge Carlo Key is a Republican. Well, he used to be until recently. The Bexar County judge formally renounced the GOP in a video he released on Sunday. And then Key did something that should send warning signals to the Republican Party. He announced his decision to join the Democratic Party and he explained why.

    Judge Carlo Key said he made his decision because the Republican Party has been taken over by hate, bigotry, and extreme ideology. The conservative principles that the party once stood for have disappeared.

    “Rational Republican beliefs have given way to ideological character assassination,” Judge Carlo Key declared. “Pragmatism and principle have been overtaken by pettiness and bigotry. Make no mistake, I have not left the Republican party. It left me.”
    Judge Carlo Key then took a shot at Republicans such as Ted Cruz and other members of the Tea Party who have shamefully used hate speech to build political power. He seemed truly embarrassed to be in the same party with them.
    "I will not be a member of a party in which hate speech elevates candidates for higher office, rather than disqualifying them. I cannot place my name on the ballot for a political party that is proud to destroy the lives of hundreds of thousands of federal workers over the vain attempt to repeal a law that will provide healthcare to millions of people throughout our country.”

    Authored by Stephen Foster jr.

  • I'm still waiting for the mass deportation to the FEMA camps, canceling elections, taking away everyone's guns, the new horrible currency law to take effect, shutting down media outlets that don't tow Obama's line and everything else people like Mark Levin warned us about in 2008 by reading chapter and verse of "Rules for Radicals." Worst. Dictator. Ever.

  • bluecloud1013 by bluecloud1013 Jan 1, 2015 4:30 PM Flag

    I hope we can find more ways to bridge our differences this year. We are all Americans and we all have an equal voice in this democracy. God Bless us all.

  • bluecloud1013 bluecloud1013 Dec 29, 2014 9:51 PM Flag

    So, you are going to sit in judgment of the Pope now too? Ok fine. Look, I understand your position that God has NEVER committed atrocities at least not we would consider an atrocity (You have repeated this position a number of times). But again, I ask you what of these incidents recorded in the Word????
    Exodus 11:5 Moses said, "Thus says the LORD, 'About midnight I am going out into the midst of Egypt, 5and all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the firstborn of the Pharaoh who sits on his throne, even to the firstborn of the slave girl who is behind the millstones; all the firstborn of the cattle as well. 6Moreover, there shall be a great cry in all the land of Egypt, such as there has not been before and such as shall never be again.…
    “Give them, O LORD–what will You give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts.” (Hosea 9:14)

    God teaches the use of a bizarre ritual using cursed “bitter water” to abort a fetus who was conceived through infidelity. (Numbers 5:11-21)

    God orders Moses to kill every Midianite woman who was no longer a virgin. (many of these women would obviously have been pregnant) (Numbers 31:15-18)

    God promises to destroy the infants of Samaria and rip open the stomachs of pregnant women.
    The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open. (Hosea 13:16)

    God allows the pregnant women of Tappuah to be ripped open.
    At that time Menahem, starting out from Tirzah, attacked Tiphsah and everyone in the city and its vicinity, because they refused to open their gates. He sacked Tiphsah and ripped open all the pregnant women. (2 Kings 15:16)

    God commands the killing of infants and nursing babies.
    Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey. (1 Samuel 15:3)

    God repays your enemies by destroying their babies.
    Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us. He who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks. (Psalms 137:8-9)

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    by bluecloud1013 Dec 27, 2014 5:41 AM
    bluecloud1013 bluecloud1013 Dec 29, 2014 10:52 AM Flag

    Right on, doc. You and your son sound like such good people. The world is a better place because of folks like yourself. God Bless you always.

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    by bluecloud1013 Dec 27, 2014 5:41 AM
    bluecloud1013 bluecloud1013 Dec 28, 2014 5:13 PM Flag

    Hey doc, My father was a Presbyterian minister until 1975 and after we all became United Methodists. The church I belong to now is a very loose knit group of believers who feel the call to work in street and community outreach. We are called The Beautiful Mess and we meet in the Eugene Evangelical Church on Sunday evenings for service. (We were actually able to move out of the basement up into the sanctuary of our wonderful hosts), We are nondenominational and all are always welcome. The preacher that someone called, Nathan, has left us to go back to seminary school in Austin Texas. We miss him but our leadership now is just as great and Christ centered. I think the main difference between us and traditional church's is our openness. We don't judge someone for drug or alcohol use as long as they are actively seeking the Lord. Many in our congregation use MJ as a sacrament but never actually in church. As for the occasional visitor that may be intoxicated at our service, we have a wonderful organization we partner with called "Cahoots" which is a group of paid EMT's and counselors that are an alternative to the police. They will handle these incidents with tact and compassion, with the subject often going to rehab rather than the psych ward or jail. The word on the street is that we are THE church to come to if you are homeless, hungry and/or spiritually hurting. Over and over again, we here from visitors and members how other churches have asked to leave because they smell bad or are wearing the wrong clothes. We will never knowingly turn away any soul who is seeking Christ. Thanks for your interest, doc. You are a good man, my friend.

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    by bluecloud1013 Dec 27, 2014 5:41 AM
    bluecloud1013 bluecloud1013 Dec 28, 2014 4:49 PM Flag

    Thanks for the encouraging words, flop. I am at peace with my conscious and my God. I will continue to hope Fraudz can "reach out half way". I always enjoy reading your posts, you are well grounded and compassionate. Peace.

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    by bluecloud1013 Dec 27, 2014 5:41 AM
    bluecloud1013 bluecloud1013 Dec 28, 2014 2:08 PM Flag

    Well, I tried. You have apparently decided to sit in judgment of me. There is only one Judgment that matters, the Lord's. I confessed to you that I didn't really know who called, and you continue to insist I am not telling the Truth. That is your burden now, I have been freed of the weight I carried around, the disgust and resentment I felt for you have been lifted and is gone. Then your pontification continued with telling me to beware of the sins of the flesh. I must assume you are referring to my use of MMJ, because I don't drink, smoke, gamble or commit adultery,
    You have also called me a liar because of a neurological disease I have called CMT. You have also called me a liar when I revealed I was a co-owner in a cannabis testing lab. It seems everything that is the Truth gets construed into a lies and deceit when it is heard by your ears. That is a shame. But I will not judge you, that is for the Lord to do. I pray that you will be able to accept the TRUTH, but if not, my conscious is clear. Peace and Love be with you, brother.

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    by bluecloud1013 Dec 27, 2014 5:41 AM
    bluecloud1013 bluecloud1013 Dec 27, 2014 3:59 PM Flag

    Thanks doc, that means a lot. I hope you will consider my other offer too. Peace and Love.

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    by bluecloud1013 Dec 27, 2014 5:41 AM
    bluecloud1013 bluecloud1013 Dec 27, 2014 3:45 PM Flag

    Thanks Dickw I appreciate the kind words. I have been more than rude to you in the past and I am sorry for that. Let's all try to move forward together.

  • bluecloud1013 bluecloud1013 Dec 27, 2014 3:34 PM Flag

    I'm sorry you aren't able to believe me, I suppose that is on me. The phone call was not concocted, it really happened. If you choose to believe that I am a liar, so be it. There is nothing I can do to convince you of the Truth so I will stop trying. But like I said, I am done with the insults and fighting, it weighs too heavily on me. I am also more than willing to discuss the Word with you, but we must back up our assertions with verses from the Word. I have done that multiple times but you don't acknowledge it. Truth is often subjective and the temptation to cheery pick verses we agree with and ignore the ones we can't get our hearts and minds around is great.. Please join me in the search for what is really TRUTH and please don't pontificate as if you are the final word on the WORD. I hope we can move forward here, I am really trying to reach out to you, but if you are unable to recognize my sincerity, that is on you. Peace and Love, my friend.

  • bluecloud1013 by bluecloud1013 Dec 27, 2014 5:41 AM Flag

    So let's start anew. I can't carry around all this negativity any more. I believe you when you say you didn't call my church. I foolishly posted the website with the phone # on this mb, and I'd have to be a cynical, hateful fool to think it couldn't be anybody else. It's a public message board, it could have been anybody. Literally. So I'm sorry for dragging this out so long, but you have to realize someone did call and you and I were trading insults long before it happened. You were the logical assumption. But I have been praying on it hard and I do believe you. I hope we can bury the hatchet and have civil, intelligent and productive conversation on the many topics we approach from very different places. We are brothers in Christ and we need to start acting like it. I'd really like to discuss the Word with you, I respect your knowledge and ideas and many of them differ from mine, but I am confident there is common ground for us to find. We may both learn from each other. Like you said, "the power of prayer". May God grant us both peaceful and prosperous years to come.

  • bluecloud1013 bluecloud1013 Dec 27, 2014 5:26 AM Flag

    I'm in too. Let's all try to have more civil discussions and debates. I'm going to try to leave the past behind and focus on the future.I'd rather have unanswered questions than continue the feud with Frauds another year. There are differences between many of us that seem impossible to bridge, but I really am going to make a concerted effort to soften my message and stop using loaded words , insults and vitriol.

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    by elk_1l Dec 25, 2014 7:15 PM
    bluecloud1013 bluecloud1013 Dec 25, 2014 8:03 PM Flag

    Good stuff! Merry Christmas, elk!

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    O/T- Good Christmas Morning Coffee

    by bum5353 Dec 25, 2014 5:42 AM
    bluecloud1013 bluecloud1013 Dec 25, 2014 12:41 PM Flag

    Peace and Love to you too, doc. I took my 5 year old to church last night and it was magical. I hope your Christmas is relaxing and reflective. Peace, my friend.

  • bluecloud1013 bluecloud1013 Dec 25, 2014 12:38 PM Flag

    An excellent time for a "cease fire". If you will note, that was yesterday morning's post. Merry Christmas to you and your family, Dickw.

  • bluecloud1013 by bluecloud1013 Dec 24, 2014 5:01 PM Flag

    We are all brothers and sisters and we quibble as such but I love you all and hope each and everyone of you( you too Fraudz!) has a safe and happy Christmas and New Year!

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    OT Happy Holidays

    by demetergreen15 Dec 24, 2014 11:20 AM
    bluecloud1013 bluecloud1013 Dec 24, 2014 4:47 PM Flag

    U2 deme. Merry Christmas!

  • bluecloud1013 bluecloud1013 Dec 24, 2014 4:45 PM Flag

    What's that frauds? Your silence is deafening. God's Word always wins, TRUTH always prevails, and when the liars and blasphemer's like you have been exposed, you run away, ever so silently, like a snake. Hmmmmmm.