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flashrob 101 posts  |  Last Activity: Aug 5, 2016 11:58 AM Member since: Apr 2, 1999
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  • this PRICE RANGE is "maximally effective" FOR "OPTIONS EXPIRATION"...BOTH PUTS AND CALLS...

    so "back 'n forth" a bit in this range... is all your like to see...

    and "options" trading "used to be mostly on 3rd friday...NOW "IT'S EVERY FRIDAY"...

    .............
    and YOU DUMB SHORTS think this is "about earnings???"

    ...........
    at long as TESLA keeps "sellin' everything they make ...NO LOTS OF UNSOLD INVENTORY... and keep expandin'

    well... this is a big favorite PLAYER STOCK...

    ........
    sell the MORON shorts PUTS ...AND EVERY FRIDAY ... price of stock "goes into "PRICE RANGE" for MAX TAKE ADVANTAGE of PUTS...

    who owns ENOUGH SHARES to do this... ANSWER "BIG MONEY" who "owns most of TESLA ...you DUMMY SHORTS...

    it's like that...

  • flashrob flashrob Aug 5, 2016 10:32 AM Flag

    so MORON SHORTS... autopilot...though NICE POINT TO "BS" ABOUT...

    IS "LARGELY IRRELEVANT" ...

    .......TAKE A "F'N CAB" or hire a limo MORON ...if it's that IMPORTANT TO YOU...

  • the WHOLE autopilot ARGUMENT is "for dummies"...

    TAKE A "F'N CAB" is your "such a douche" that you BUY a car "because it's got AUTOPILOT!

    the "traction control" I have in my car ...kicks in automatically... BUT "THAT WAS O% OF THE REASON I BOUGHT THE "HYPO GUZZLER" I HAVE...

    reasons I bought the car...

    a. front seat WOULD retract like a van "so you could sleep in it" 9 ft level...like for naps at reststops ...
    b. car was "white" so AIR CONDITIONER...works better in hot weather...
    c. front wheel drive... drives better in snow... almost the same as AWD...

    the other stuff (the car was loaded...supercharger...satellite...sunroof...racetrack handling and brakeing...I LIKED ALL THAT... but wasn't even in a mkt for that much performance...

    just went to the dealer...and said "engine blew" in driveway ...need car for tomorrow... what you got "new or used" that got this...

    he say: only one CAR have that kind of "fully retractable front seat"...it that your priority... have one "hypo slightly used car"...guy trade that in on new "vette" ...

    .........
    so:

    I didn't even know "car had alarm system for two years" ...thought that was "phony red light blinkin' at night"

    got used to "super braking, acceleration, go-kart type handling with quiet, soft ride... was surprised at ride...like take turns like go-kart ...without feelin' bumps...

    LOVE this car... TESLA AWD will be my replacement... when I think time to get replacement...

    this car "also big 4 door sports sedan...with lots of travel trunk space... did not want "two seater vette" ...that is not a "good road trip car...

    this car "also not" cop-bait...look a bit fancy...but not too much...

    ..............
    so BOTTOM LINE... i tried "cruise control" once... blue-tooth crap once... SUNROOF great on nice weather day...do like that...traction control...manual paddle shift on steering wheel... all kinds of other crap on car...DON'T BOTHER WITH... heated seats...I never use that...even in winter...JUST WARM UP CAR FIRST..

  • GOOGLE SEARCH this:

    How Much? $240,000 For A Grey Market Tesla Model X In China

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    Trump must be on Tesla board.

    by rohnerj Aug 4, 2016 10:10 AM
    flashrob flashrob Aug 4, 2016 4:18 PM Flag

    there is A WHOLE BUNCH OF "MORONS" ... THAT "SHOULD INVEST IN THIS STOCK..."

    THEY ARE KNOWN AS "TESLA SHORTS!"

  • GOOGLE SEARCH this:

    The Tesla Effect: How the cutting edge company became the most powerful engine in Bay Area manufacturing

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    by ibecars_30 Aug 1, 2016 7:12 PM
    flashrob flashrob Aug 3, 2016 5:05 PM Flag

    you take yourself TOO SERIOUSLY... I was just jokin'...

    well, I distracted you enough for today... earnings is out... the stock didn't tank...

    and this Y board is "annoying" ...sometimes I got to try for a half-hour to get a post out... even replies...

    gettin' to be too much of a nuisance... inconsistency on "both sites" this "old one" and the new one...

    Y got to be "doin' this a purpose"... you don't have to be a rocket scientist to have enough people to "run the servers and the network"... Y is a big company... can't believe they got an IT problem this bad...

    oh well... time to find somethin else to do... "windin' up coach" did it for today...

    .........
    and shorts ...well I guess they CAN START JABBERIN' "ABOUT NEXT QUARTER, earnings and such...

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    by ibecars_30 Aug 1, 2016 7:12 PM
    flashrob flashrob Aug 3, 2016 4:43 PM Flag

    good thing for you "your NOT SHORT"...

    well, ya know how a "farmer looks at this: PLENTY OF OTHER "COWS" IN THE BARN to be MILKED...

    just give 'em "good regular milkin'" and that be best for everybody... includin' cows...

    so what if "one-st in a while" one cow being lookin' kind of pique-ed... a case like that... just "milk" him some other time...cetera

    ...oh, well.............. "just another day on the "ELON FARM!"

    never get tired of "milkin' these cows" ...this "good payin' job" ...even though some "cows be gettin' bit of "distemper, cetera"...

    oh, well...whatever...tomorrow be "'nother day on the farm" ...

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    by ibecars_30 Aug 1, 2016 7:12 PM
    flashrob flashrob Aug 3, 2016 4:22 PM Flag

    geez... I think I would have to "know your legal name" and then there's the issue "of the definition of SHORT"...
    (all kinds of "detailed" things that you try to act like you got a handle on...)

    I basically been takin' it easy on you...

    are YOUR MEDS wearin' off, or somethin??? you sound almost "apoplectic"...

    "BREATHE DEEP"... let's try that again: "another DEEP BREATH?" ...stop imaginin' that ELON comin' down from sky with "thunder and lightning"...and givin' you the "evil eye"...IT'S ALL GONNA BE OK... don't think abut the word TESLA... "BREATHE DEEP!" ...are we feelin' better?

    geez, sorry... I didn't think "you were gonna lose it this bad...

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    by ibecars_30 Aug 1, 2016 7:12 PM
    flashrob flashrob Aug 3, 2016 2:29 PM Flag

    OH... JUST IN CASE... YOU CAN'T FIND THE "FINANCIAL EQUITY VALUATION EXPERT'S VIDEO"...I'll repost where you can find the link at the top of the page that comes up with a "google search."

    GOOGLE SEARCH this:

    Aswath Damodaran: "Valuation: Four Lessons to Take Away"

    try watching this video "completely" BEFORE YOU "MAKE ANOTHER LAME IRRELEVANT POST" that's intended by you "obviously" TO STEER PEOPLE OFF THE "CORE ISSUE" of "CORRECTLY ASSESSINGS TESLA'S VALUATION, etc."

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    by ibecars_30 Aug 1, 2016 7:12 PM
    flashrob flashrob Aug 3, 2016 2:20 PM Flag

    oh, coach AND GOOGLE SEARCH this:

    aswath damodaran biography wikipedia

    ...and tell me that "you pathetic shorts" know more about "finance, accounting AND EQUITY VALUATIONS then this guy...HE WROTE BOOKS ON "EQUITY VALUATION"...and is considered BY BIG BIZ...to be one of the "leading experts IN THE WORLD ON EQUITY VALUATION...

    so, don't waste your time ARGUING WITH ME... "TELL ME HOW HE'S WRONG"... and "he says BASICALLY THE SAME THING I'VE BEEN TELLING YOU "IN EVALUATING TESLA ...FOR MONTHS"...

    that EARNINGS are of "little real meaning" IN EVALUATING A "GROWTH STOCK" LIKE TESLA...

    .............
    so view the "video" coach... AND COMMENT ON THE CONTENTS OF THAT VIDEO...I'm sure many other posters have seen THAT VIDEO by now... AND "WE'LL SEE WHO THEY THINK"

    MAKES THE "BETTER CASE FOR VALUING TESLA... ME...OR YOU... OR YOUR SHORT-BUDDIES!

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    by ibecars_30 Aug 1, 2016 7:12 PM
    flashrob flashrob Aug 3, 2016 1:48 PM Flag

    I have repeatedly "mentioned GM and Ford" in my posts with respect to TESLA but "in this context:

    a. that TESLA is "not really competing with them" ...AS THEIR OFFERINGS "ARE LIKE THE HYBRID VOLT and PURE EV "BOLT"...neither of which ARE REALLY COMPETITORS to TESLA "in TESLA'S HIGHER END PRICIER MKT NICHE...TESLA is mainly competing with the likes of PRICIER PORSCHE AND with the model 3...will FOCUSING more on competition with BMW...

    b. IT IS YOU SHORTS... who KEEP focusing on that "comparison" ...so I have repeatedly mentioned GM and Ford...because you "shorts" keeping "bringing up EARNINGS and HOW TESLA does "not compare" with the huge volumes of cars produced by GM and FORD in comparison to TESLA...

    SO "GOT IT" ...tesla is NOT FOCUSED ON or should be compared to "COMPETITION WITH GM AND FORD"...but you shorts keep bringin' up GM AND FORD cheapy offerings and huge volumes of MOSTLY GUZZLERS that they produce...

    also ERRONEOUSLY gm and ford...ARE NOT "GROWTH STOCKS LIKE TESLA" ...SO ALL YOUR "EARNINGS ACCOUNTING" ........IS RELEVANT ...when comparing FORD VS. GM...

    BUT ARE LARGELY IRRELEVANT ...in viewing TESLA with comparison respect to GM and Ford...

    .........
    did you view THE EXPERT in the "video link" I provided... VIEW THAT ...AND COMMENT ON THAT...here's his credentials: Aswath Damodaran is a Professor of Finance at the Stern School of Business at New York University... HE mentions TESLA ...AND THE "ERRONEOUS NOTION" that "earnings AT THIS POINT IN TESLA'S DEVELOPMENT"...HE MAKES THE POINT "THAT PAST AND/OR CURRENT EARNINGS... have little MEANINGFUL VALUE in accessing a "GROWTH STOCK" LIKE TESLA...

    TRY VIEWING THAT VIDEO and when you "have digested that"...THEN WE CAN "ARGUE about your accounting, etc....

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    by ibecars_30 Aug 1, 2016 7:12 PM
    flashrob flashrob Aug 3, 2016 12:58 PM Flag

    just an aside:

    the "dumb Yahoo BOT" keeps "scanning many of my posts" and SUBSTITUTING "misspellings and sometimes whole wrong words" and/or "making negatives into positives...."

    that type of thing:

    case in point: it "made ACCOUNTING into ACCUNTING" in a recent post in reply TO ibe (better known as "coach" I'm pretty sure...)

    so for what it's worth ...WATCH YOUR POSTS...for these types of errors...

    ...........
    oh, I still tryin' to decide whether Y is that "stupid or understaffed" in it's IT department...

    such a HUGE FINANCIAL SITE... how could they be THIS LAME in managing the msg board...

    (and I have several comps running different OS ...like LINUX ...SO IT'S DEFFINITELY A "Y" problem and NOT MINE, etc...)

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    by ibecars_30 Aug 1, 2016 7:12 PM
    flashrob flashrob Aug 3, 2016 12:47 PM Flag

    who would INSPIRE ME THEN COACH... you've done a great job with that!

    yeah, ignore me...

    basic point: YOU'RE LIKE THE "SCIENTIST" who "applys huge and laborious amounts of MATH"...and he keeps "trying to steer his critics...ON FINDIN' FAULT with his "MATH CALCULATIONS"...

    I'M not arguing accunting with you coach... that's just a tool ...you can use it "correctly and/or incorrectly"...

    ..........
    but IF THE "ORIGINAL HYPOTHESES" that the SCIENTIST is working on IS "NONSENSE"...then all the "math calculations" with respect TO HIS "HYPOTHESES" ARE IRRELEVANT...

    DO YOU GET THAT "KEY POINT" COACH...

    a. the MATH you use can be "progressively flawless"...you can be an expert in that...

    b. but IT'S ALL IRRELEVANT... if "applied wrongly..."

    ...........
    electric drills... ARE GREAT TOOLS... but "you don't USE THEM if at all TO "REPAIR COMPUTERS"...

    you DON'T FIX CARS... with "plumbers tools"...

    ............
    TESLA is a "growth stock" AND "MOST OF THE ACCOUNTING YARDSTICKS YOU ARE TRYING TO APPLY TO EVALUATE IT ...are "largely irrelevant" at this point in TESLA's development...
    ................................
    watch this whole video... by a "world expert in accounting"

    GOOGLE SEARCH this:

    Aswath Damodaran: "Valuation: Four Lessons to Take Away"

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    by ibecars_30 Aug 1, 2016 7:12 PM
    flashrob flashrob Aug 3, 2016 12:20 PM Flag

    READ MY POSTS ...I never said TESLA was in competition WITH CHEAPY GUZZLER...OR CHEAPY PURE EV ...MADE BY GUZZLER...

    I have made the point that TESLA is producing a PURE LUXURY PERFORMANCE EV...

    TO "COMPETE WITH THE LIKES OF "PORSCHE AND BMW"...

    ...IT'S GM and FORD and GUZZLER... who ARE SEE "TESLA AS A THREAT AND COMPETITOR" to their mainstay ICE vehicles...

    it's not me makin' that point... IT'S THE LEVEL OF ACTIVITY "GLOBALLY" by GUZZLER...

    ...........
    IF THEY THOUGHT TESLA was such a sure failure...THEN WHY ALL THIS FOCUS...and arming SO MANY MSG BOARDS (automobile related) ...WITH "AGAINST TESLA POSTERS ...LIKE YOU"...

    MANY OF THEM "PROBABLY SHILLS"... or old "stick in the mud" GOOD OLE' GUZZLER DIEHARDS..

    ...........
    I'M SURE "WHEN HENRY FORD" CAME ON THE SCENE...loads of "old horsey boy types" was floodin' the NEWSPAPERS then...with "articles about WHACKO HENRY" and his model-T...WHEN THERE "WEREN'T EVEN PAVED ROADS TO RUN MOST OF THAT "NEW FANGLED CRACKPOT" IDEA...

    LIKE "HOW CAN HE EVER EXPECT TO "DETHRONE AND "BEGGAR" THE "BIG POWERFUL WEALTHY "HORSEY-NETWORK BOYS!"

    WELL, HENRY..."BROKE THEM"...

    wake up to REALITY "COACH" ..."hot dogs, apple pie, ICE-CREAM SUNDAE PARLORS" ...all that GOOD 'OLE "NORMAN ROCKWELL" TYPE "NOSTALGIC TIMES" ...IS "NOT EVER COMIN' BACK"...

    it's GOOGLE, AMAZON, NETFLIX, FB....TESLA and "solar city" ...GONNA "EVER-INCREASINGLY AND MORE RAPIDLY............."CHANGE THE FUTURE!"

    STILL USE "CANDLES" COACH???

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    by ibecars_30 Aug 1, 2016 7:12 PM
    flashrob flashrob Aug 3, 2016 12:03 PM Flag

    WHEN I WATCH THE increased "flood damage" in places like HOUSTON...and just days ago IN "ELLICOTT CITY" MARYLAND...

    WELL...I JUST "WATCH THE VIDEO" on the weather channel... THEIR METEOROLOGICAL EXPLANATIONS...(LIKE YOUR ACCOUNTING NONSENSE ARGUMENTS) are largely "extra extraneous FLUFF"... I CAN SEE THE "BOTTOM LINE OF CLIMATE DAMAGE FLOODING" ...with out all this...

    extra meteorlogical data...MOST OF THAT KIND OF DATA ...IS LIKE "FOOTNOTES" ON A "TERM-PAPER"...yeah, put it in their if you like...BUT IF IT WASN'T INCLUDED...

    THE "FLOOD-DAMAGE" WEATHER VIDEOS...are all I really need TO "GET THE BIG-PICTURE!"

    .........
    that's HOW IT IS COACH... get over your "obfuscation vested interestest" BS...

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    by ibecars_30 Aug 1, 2016 7:12 PM
    flashrob flashrob Aug 3, 2016 11:57 AM Flag

    so GUZZLER is losin' WITH THEIR "PRODUCE A CHEAPY PURE EV"... there are LESS AND LESS people capable of "even purchasin' CHEAPY guzzlers... LET ALONE PAYIN' A 10K OR SO...PREMIUM FOR A "PURE EV" mfr by guzzler...

    meanwhile TESLA "with the MODEL 3" ...IS NOW GOING TO GO "HEAD TO HEAD WITH "MID AND LOWER PRICED "BMW GUZZLERS"...and this crowd LIKE THE MORE EXPENSIVE "PORSCHE CROWD" still HAS A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF GOOD JOBS AND/OR MONEY...

    get it coach THE WORST MKT to be PRODUCING FOR ...IS: the largest MAJORITY MASS SCALE CONSUMER MKT... and that's "globally"...

    you want to be producin' for a SELECT "upper middle class mkt niche" ...AND THE ECONOMY IS "SHOWIN' NO REAL SIGNS OF IMPROVIN' ...those TOO MANY offshored "jobs" chased by too many big companies...THOSE JOBS ARE NOT "COMIN' BACK"...and even if some of those companies come back IT WILL BE "FOR CHEAP ROBOTICS"...NOT RE-HIRING "TOO MANY JOE SIX-PACK GUYS (many union jobs that work for gm and ford, etc."

    ..........
    plus SECOND REASON is "also" TESLA ...GOT A STRONG START IN PROVIDING ...ON THE ROAD "SUPERCHARGING NETWORK"...globally...

    dumb GUZZLER... is "way behind the CURVE on that also"...AND THEY KNEW ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS already...and have made little move... ACCEPT TO "WASTE THEIR TIME AND RESOURCES... PUMPIN' OUT "LOSIN' HYBRIDS" ...thinkin' THAT WAS GONNA "SAVE THEIR BUTTS"...

    ........
    now they know THEY HAVE TO PRODUCE "cheapy EVs ........LIKE THE BOLT.....which is MOSTLY GONNA COMPETE with "their LOWER-PRICED GUZZLERS..."

    TESLA meantime... is makin' cars...THAT THE PEOPLE BUYIN' THEM... and soon to be MODEL 3... WOULD NEVER BUY A BOLT... but sales of these "higher end TESLAS" ...IS ALSO GONNA "CUT SIGNIFICANTLY into GUZZLER'S "MID-RANGE ICE VEHICLES...

    this IS ALL SO SIMPLE COACH "NO TRYIN' TO MAKE ACCOUNTING POINTS..."

    I DON'T NEED TO HAVE "SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATIONS" IN LABORIOUS LONG DETAILED "MAYBE THIS AND THAT METEORLOGICAL EXPLANATIONS...

    WHEN I "WATCH THE FLOODING AND DESTRUCTION"...

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    by ibecars_30 Aug 1, 2016 7:12 PM
    flashrob flashrob Aug 3, 2016 11:44 AM Flag

    they are REPRESENTATIVE of the "GOING INTO DECLINE... BIG-GUZZLER ICE VEHICLE PARADIGMS"

    a. they thought THEY COULD "fool the American Consumer WITH THE "HYBRID TOKEN EFFORT"...they LOST BIG TIME ON THAT STRATEGY...

    b. now the BEST they can come up with is the "gm BOLT" ...not a bad cheapy PURE EV... but there are "TWO MAJOR FLAWS with that "2ND EFFORT ....after their FAILED HYBRID fiasco...

    one: they are "trying to sell AND PRODUCE FOR ...the "cheapy MASS MKT"...
    ...this USED TO BE THE BEST MKT... to produce for...and in "big numbers"...NOW THAT'S "A LOSER MKT TO PRODUCE FOR" ...because "too many GOOD PAYIN' backbone of the U.S. economy" JOBS ...was OFFSHORED...
    ...so this "former great MAINSTAY CONSUMER ECONOMY-based MKT" IS IN "SERIOUS DECLINE AND TROUBLE" ...with less and less average consumers IN THIS MASS MKT that can "keep up with gettin' a NEW GM OR FORD every few years...

    right now... THEY ARE PUSHIN' "LONGER PERIOD CAR LOANS "LIKE 5 YEARS IS NOTHIN' NOW" to TOO MANY PEOPLE in this "mass mkt" WITH LESS AND LESS INCOME from a former good job...is the reason in many cases" TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT "MAINSTREAM BIGTIME GUZZLER ...like GM AND FORD...

    plus the WORLDWIDE GLUT... of Toyota, Honda, Nissan, VW...etc. PUTS EVEN MORE COMPETITION HURT on a GM AND FORD...(I use GM and Ford...because they are MOST REPRESENTATIVE OF U.S. PRODUCTION...but guzzler is a guzzler ...is a guzzler...whether it's made in Japan or Europe, also...)

    notice TESLA "pursues" THE UPSCALE SELECT MKT NICHE... (THE Porsche crowd...who a higher-percentage of those CONSUMERS ..."STILL HAVE GOOD JOBS AND/OR MONEY"... gettin' this "coach"...

    that's why THEIR "ARE NO LOTS OF TESLA UNSOLD INVENTORY "ALL OVER THE GLOBE" ...because TESLA is sellin' everything it makes...as fast as they make them...

    ........
    second: NOW ...global guzzler IS NOT ONLY NOT SELLIN' AS MANY CARS as they used to ...and in a declinin' GLOBAL CONSUMER MKT... facing stiffer and stiffer competition from...

  • GOOGLE SEARCH this:

    China's elevated bus: Futuristic 'straddling bus' hits the road

    ...........
    meanwhile HOW'S ARE "NEARLY OBSOLETE INFRASTRUCTURE...DOING???

    .....
    SO "HILLARY AND TRUMP"... WHAT ABOUT THIS KIND OF THING...

    WHY HAS CHINA BEEN OPERATING "A FULLY AUTOMATED MAG-LEV TRAINS for years already???

    ...........
    our POLS need to "have their FEET PUT IN THE FIRE... give them a "wake-up call..."

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    by ibecars_30 Aug 1, 2016 7:12 PM
    flashrob flashrob Aug 2, 2016 8:08 PM Flag

    all YOUR FANTASY ILLUSION...

    the PRICE OF THE TESLA STOCK ...for the last two plus years COMPARED to your champion guzzlers...Ford and GM...

    that's the REALITY here "coach"...ALL THE REST IS "your BS short illusion..."

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