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flashrob 292 posts  |  Last Activity: Aug 5, 2016 11:58 AM Member since: Apr 2, 1999
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    so so quarter this time

    by iq220dude Aug 2, 2016 7:20 AM
    flashrob flashrob Aug 2, 2016 4:23 PM Flag

    you LOOK AT THE CHART "YOU DUMB SHORT!" (the chart is readily available on the "new Yahoo stockboard"...just put a year in an you can see THE REALITY "short!" ...not your DUMB unchecked statement....

    tesla IS UP 50% SINCE 10FEB2016...

    "you're tellin' us to LOOK AT THE CHART??? ...you LOOK AT THE CHART "STUPID"

    that's WHY some of you "short posters"........."HAVE SO LITTLE CREDIBILITY" ...makin' dumb statements like TESLA hasn't hardly moved all year...

    how did FORD and GM guzzler do ...ARE THEY UP 50% ...IN "JUST" THE LAST SIX MONTHS???

  • flashrob flashrob Aug 2, 2016 8:37 AM Flag

    ultimately THERE IS "NOT MUCH ANYONE" COULD HAVE DONE TO PREVENT THAT...

    here's the dilemma USING AN ANALOGY:

    a. you decide that you are having "too many flat tires"...

    b. you ask the "tire expert" ...and he says... put "a set of brand new STEEL-BELTED RADIALS" ...instead of those "worn tires" YOU ARE driving on, etc.

    c. THIS "IS" good advice...BUT...there are "people" who CAN DRIVE "YEAR AFTER YEAR" A LOT..."AND NEVER GET A FLAT TIRE...
    ...and THERE ARE PEOPLE "with the best steel-belted radials" WHO "STILL GET FREQUENT FLAT TIRES...

    ..........
    WHY IS THIS THE CASE... because "there are FACTORS operant...that YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT... ARE NOT PART OF YOUR LOGIC AND THINKING...

    so...getting "new steel-belted radials" IS A GOOD IDEA... but "OTHER FACTORS CAN "TRUMP" that...

    ......
    so blaming Hillary or Obama or whoever...FOR SOME CALAMITY...is "an ERRONEOUS NOTION"...there "IS" something like FATE going on...(not quite what you think...it's not set in stone) ...but IF THAT'S THE CASE...no one is gonna circumvent .,..some issues...AND THEIR IS NOT A DAMN THING YOU OR ANYONE CAN DO ABOUT THAT...

    there is "some ways" to circumvent SOME THINGS...but you "won't get that level of knowledge" from anything or anyone YOU ARE LIKELY TO COME ACROSS... no university/academic/scientist/specialist...has ACCESS TO THAT KIND OF THING... I'LL GIVE YOU A HINT "IT'S MORE AKIN TO "MAGIC"...though not exactly ...but that's the best example I can give you ...the closest concept you have probably "come across"...

    but "don't start jumpin' into MAGIC and it's practices"...very few can "do what that is all about" with any kind of effectiveness... you are basically stuff with THE SYSTEM you are currently using... SO MORE "SHOOT 'EM UPS"...COUNT ON THAT INCREASING... and NO ONE ...being able to "do much about that"...NO MATTER WHAT THEY TRY/PROPOSE/SPEND MONEY ON...

    it's about like that... NOTICE THE INCREASINGLY "BAD AND DAMAGING GLOBAL WEATHER"...you're NOT GONNA CHANGE THAT EITHER!

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    Q REPORTS

    by ibecars_30 Aug 1, 2016 7:12 PM
    flashrob flashrob Aug 2, 2016 8:12 AM Flag

    on the ELECTION... the "probabilities" I GET...

    are pretty much it's VERY CLOSE... A #$%$ SHOOT" in effect...

    so, I would NOT BE BETTIN' in ANYWAY with respect to that...

    in the case of TESLA... it's pretty much a "NO BRAINER"...the "high probability" is that TESLA "is even better" for TESLA winning the FUTURE OF AUTO MFR......then that "probability" was ...a few years ago ...when I started posting about TESLA on this board...

    it's mainly an ISSUE of a "paradigm shift" TO PURE EV... TESLA is obviously THE "DOMINANT GROWING PLAYER" IN PURE EV... so their PROBABILITY of like "winning the SUPERBOWL" of PURE EV... IS EXTREMELY HIGH...

    if it was someone else ...then I might support them... BUT "IT IS TESLA" and NOBODY else is even any kind of real threat or competition for them, in their mkt niche, and those they are starting to expand into, etc.

    so it's TESLA... for sure... maybe a few others will have some "cheapy EV" BUT "CHEAPY EVs mostly UNDERMINE "GUZZLER" SALES OF ICE VEHICLES... and hardly have any impact on TESLA...

    SO TESLA gonna win... AND GUZZLER... is "how much ...THE DEGREE...to which "THEY ARE GOING TO LOSE...

    that's about how all this is "rampin' up" in the future...

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    Q REPORTS

    by ibecars_30 Aug 1, 2016 7:12 PM
    flashrob flashrob Aug 2, 2016 7:49 AM Flag

    well AS "YOU" SAY ...if WALL ST. "IS A CON GAME"...then WHY DO YOU "INSIST ON BEING SO DUMB" ...and BETTING AGAINST THEM... and "advocating that others do..."

    you BET with "what IS "GOING TO WIN" ...regardless of whether it's A CON GAME OR NOT...

    you INSIST on "betting to LOSE" because YOU DON'T LIKE THE "WAY AND THE REASONS" that TESLA just "keeps overall winning"...

    that's JUST PLAIN DUMB... I don't "particularly" like any of the candidates RUNNING IN THE ELECTION...

    that being said...I position myself SO THAT I WILL DO WELL..."REGARDLESS OF WHO WINS THE ELECTION"...and don't waste my time and effort and resources... FIGHTING against "one or the other"...IT IS MUCH EASIER AND MORE EFFECTIVE... to "adjust my personal factors" then it is TO WASTE MY RESOURCES... going AGAINST "one candidate or another"...

    in the case of TESLA "there is a very HIGH PROBABILITY" THEY WILL DOMINATE THE FUTURE OF AUTO MFRng...and a very "high probability" that guzzler will continually decline...

    so I DON'T "BET AGAINST THAT"... whether I think it's a con or whatever...

    ...........
    you're just all "bent out of shape" ...because TESLA keeps on succeeding ..."despite earnings"...which you highly value as a system...

    well THEIR ARE "EXCEPTIONS" pretty much to EVERY RULE ...

    SOME PEOPLE are "going to BEAT "THE WAY YOU THINK THE SYSTEM SHOULD WORK" regardless of what you "think, say, do...extrapolate...calculate...whatever...THEY ARE "GOING TO PREVAIL" no matter what you or anyone you know THINKS, SAYS, OR DOES...

    I am a specialist in "probabilities" ...AND "PROBABILITIES" HAVE "TRUMPED" every system I have ever seen...THE TRICK IS "WHERE YOU GET YOUR PROBABILITY INFO FROM"... AND I HAVE ACCESS TO THE "BEST IN THE WORLD"... it's about like that...

    things DON'T "NECESSARILY" WORK OUT THE WAY I WOULD LIKE in many instances...BUT I "DON'T BET AGAINST "HIGH PROBABILITIES" that I get...

    I know MY LIMITATIONS in "having things WORK THE WAY I THINK THEY SHOULD...

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    Q REPORTS

    by ibecars_30 Aug 1, 2016 7:12 PM
    flashrob flashrob Aug 1, 2016 8:31 PM Flag

    well then... you ought to be ready to "come to the CONCLUSION" ...that it's NOT ABOUT EARNINGS...

    TESLA stock is "so high" compared to companies "like GM and Ford" ...THAT OCCASIONALLY HAVE HAD "POSITIVE EARNINGS" during the last "couple plus years..."

    so, BY NOW... it should be CLEAR TO YOU ...that TESLA has a "high stock price" relative to other guzzlers...BECAUSE IT'S THE "GROWTH POTENTIAL"...AND THAT'S WHAT "BIG MONEY" FUNDS, etc. VALUE TESLA'S STOCK ON...

    geez...when ARE YOU GOING TO GET THAT FUNDAMENTAL REASON ...why THERE ARE "STOCKS" THAT ARE VALUED ...BECAUSE OF THEIR "FUTURE GROWTH POTENTIAL" AND not much on current or past earnings???

    .......
    it's been two years at least ...AS YOU SAY ....and even more... AND TESLA STOCK is still "way high" compared to most comparable guzzler stocks...

    WAKE UP "TO THAT REALITY!"

  • flashrob flashrob Jul 31, 2016 10:07 AM Flag

    ...WELL WHAT ABOUT "THOSE VW DIESEL PROFITS" ....'YOU ACCOUNTING GENIUS"

    a. at the time THEY WERE MADE...in some cases years ago...THEY SEEMED TO BE "ALL HONEST AND ETHICAL" in compliance...would have EVEN PASSED AUDITS...

    b. well WHAT ABOUT NOW "IN HINDSIGHT..."DUMDUM".....what happens to ALL THOSE "PROFITS" ...IF YOU SUBTRACT...THE "EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE PENALTIES" from the SALES that helped GENERATE those profits...

    c. THAT'S WHY ...you can't DEPEND on "PROFIT SHOWING ACCOUNTING" ...no matter how RIGOROUSLY monitor the ACCOUNTING...

    GOT THAT "DUMDUM" ...THE VW CASE ...is a perfect example OF HOW INVESTORS can be MISLED "with PROFIT SHOWING ACCOUNTING...EVEN AUDITS/AUDITORS... couldn't PROTECT AGAINST THAT IN THE VW CASE...

    and WITHOUT DOING "ANY ACCOUNTING, WHATSOEVER" I CAN "TELL YOU IN THE "VW" CASE ...VW is a "big loser" EVEN THOUGH AT ONE TIME "THEY SHOWED PROFITABLE NUMBERS" ACCORDING TO THE ACCOUNTING for the sales in question...

    JUST "COMMON SENSE"...do I have to spend months compiling and verifying ACCOUNTING AND STATISTICAL DATA??? ...MAYBE YOU DO "COACH"...
    ...ME, I GOT BETTER THINGS TO SPEND MY TIME ON... THEN THE "OBVIOUS!"

  • flashrob flashrob Jul 31, 2016 9:53 AM Flag

    you keep tryin' to SHIFT THE DISCUSSION to "what I don't seem to you... to know about ACCOUNTING"...

    a. I know that "accounting LIKE "math" for example HAS THE "POTENTIAL" to "BE ETHICAL"...

    b. I am not "arguing against THE PRINCIPLES OF "ACCOUNTING OR MATH"... I am making the point ...THAT "once they are actually employed" THEY BECOME "INCREASINGLY" SUBJECTIVE...

    in their "pure form" THEY ARE VERY OBJECTIVE... but "depending on the motive and/or intelligence of the USER... they can be LARGELY "IN ERROR"...

    a. sometimes "brilliant theorhetical physicists "employ massive pages of "math computations" ...AND WILL willingly argue with you ABOUT the "progression and accuracy of their computations USING THAT MATH...
    ...that's ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING...

    b. I AM NOT ARGUING "ABOUT THE ACCURACY OR even innaccuracy OF YOUR "CALCULATIONS" about earnings/profits/sales...

    c. but SIMILARLY ...the "physicist" CAN GET...MAYBE EVEN PROVE HOW "ACCURATE" HIS MATH IS...but if HIS ORIGINAL "HYPOTHESES/theory" WAS COMPLETE nonsense...THAN "NO MATTER HOW GOOD HIS MATH IS"...THE BOTTOM LINE IS: ...ALL HIS "LABORIOUS AND ELABORATE CALCULATIONS (though they might be flawless with respect to their mathematical progression) ......ARE......GET READY....
    ALL THAT PHYSICIST'S CALCULATIONS "ARE, IN EFFECT...."WORTHLESS!"

    SO, I AM NOT ARGUING "THAT ACCOUNTING" IS WORTHLESS... I'm merely makin' the point ..."that ACCOUNTING is "very subjective" AND EASY TO MANIPULATE....therefore you have to consider "all kinds of other factors" ...(outside of the actual accounting)...like the company's reputation, consumer feedback in the aggregate... government intervention ON BEHALF OF THE CONSUMER...

    look at TESLA AUTOPILOT ...few instances...MILLIONS OF "profit killing" instances in the CASE OF A VW OR GM ...

    and I'M sure VW ...showed lots of PROFITS for millions of cars THAT NOW 'YEARS LATER" after bilking many investors...who thought they "were above such cheating" ...

  • flashrob flashrob Jul 31, 2016 9:07 AM Flag

    a simple example of what I'm talkin' about...

    a. you have investors in BONDS... they make a "few percent" A YEAR ...so often THEY DO "MAKEl a LITTLE safe return investment profit MONEY"

    b. BUT... when I trade... THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME... I make A FEW PERCENT PROFIT "IN A DAY"... got that DUMDUM... "IN A DAY" ...I WOULD'T WASTE MY TIME IN THE BOND MKT... (now I know about restrictions and why "big pensions" are restricted to only certain types of investments...like bonds...) ...but there are lots of investors who buy bonds that aren't so restricted... THOSE PEOPLE ARE JUST going down a "dead-end"...many of them forget THAT as new bond rates rise....THE EXISTING "PRINCIPAL" OF THE BONDS THEY HOLD usually go down AND THEY LOSE or make very little for their efforts...

    what good is making 2% A YEAR on your bonds in interest for a few years... then interest rates start climbin' and you LOSE like 20% on your principle...(that sword/risk is always hangin' over your head..)

    ah, but how to make 3% a day... that's easy FOR ME...because I DON'T "SUBSCRIBE" TO THE "MAJORITY of CONVENTIONAL "IGNORANCE"...(I don't keep going down THAT PARTICULAR DEAD END...though many investors KEEP turnin' DOWN that "LOSER DEAD-END PATH"...

    kind of get my drift here??? I don't have time to "educate you" ...YOU AREN'T LIKELY CAPABLE of "followin' the level of the stuff" I use to JUST BYPASS "YOUR LIMITED KIND OF THINKIN' WITH"...

    BUT OFTEN ...I AM JUST "appalled at the LEVEL OF IGNORANCE I FIND" TOO MANY PEOPLE (who should know better subscribin' to ..."BUYING INTO...) ...I DON'T EXPECT EVERYONE TO comprehend "the high-tech level COMPLEXITIES...of "medicine, computer hardware and software, engineering, etc.

    BUT WHEN "THEY SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST "enough brains" TO SEE THE "OBVIOUS" AND NOT "BURY THEIR HEADS IN THE SAND..."IN DENIAL"...WHY DO THEY OFTEN DO THIS... because they have a "threatened VESTED INTEREST"...that's just REALLY BEING "STUPID!"

    THOSE ARE "THE REAL BIG LOSERS!"

  • flashrob flashrob Jul 31, 2016 8:45 AM Flag

    HEY DUMDUM... I WAS INCORPORATED AND HAD A BUSINESS STUPID...

    AND YOU "LAMEBRAIN" ...shoot your mouth off WITH "NONE" ...that I have no experience OPERATING A BUSINESS... you moron HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT "WHAT I DO" ...or what I''m involved in...

    but YOU SHOOT OFF YOUR MOUTH "BULLSH..TER... I know little about you EXCEPT with respect to WHAT YOU SAY IN YOUR POSTS... so I don't make CLAIMS about "what you do or don't do...kinow about or don't know about...ALTHOUGH I CAN OBVIOUSLY TELL FROM YOUR POSTS...WHAT "YOU THINK YOU KNOW ABOUT"...AND DON'T...

    ...in my case ...IT'S NOT SO MUCH "WHAT I KNOW"... IT'S MORE OF A "I KNOW ..."WHAT MOST OTHER PEOPLE.........DON'T KNOW..........and that gives me a "huge advantage" in PROBABILITY PREDICTION...

    when I see "some guy" turnin' off "down WHAT I "ALREADY KNOW IS A "DEAD-END" ...well the PROBABILITY OF HIM "WINNIN' THE RACE" greatly JUST INCREASED in my favor with "respect to him"...GOT THAT ...AND I DON'T NEED "ACCOUNTING OR A SCIENTIFIC STUDY" ...I see it in "a glance" ...when he "turns off down the WHAT I ALREADY KNOW is a "dead-end" trail...GOT THAT...that's HOW IT IS FOR ME...

    I KNOW MANY THINGS THAT "THE MAJORITY" DON'T KNOW... AND THAT INCLUDES "SOME OF THE BEST SCIENTISTS/ACADEMICS AND UNIVERSITIES...people THAT "ONLY THINK THEY KNOW HOW THINGS WORK..."

    I don't have a complete handle ON WHAT WILL WORK AND WHEN...but I FOR SURE KNOW... WHO "ISN'T likely to win...because they "keep turnin' DOWN "DEAD-END TRAILS"...

    so the trick is...I've ALREADY ELIMINATED AND "KNOW MOST OF THOSE" so I don't waste my time going down to many dead-ends...FOR SURE "FAR LESS THAN THE OTHER RUNNERS"

    and YOU DON'T FIND OUT "which are DEAD ENDS" from some scientist/university/academic/politician...BECAUSE THAT "WHOLE SYSTEM" is FULL OF TOO MANY DEAD-ENDS...only ALL THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO SUBSCRIBE TO THOSE ...DON'T YET KNOW THAT...

    THEY'LL EVENTUALLY REALIZE... those people DO KNOW AND CONTRIBUTE...but in a very LIMITED FASHION...

  • flashrob flashrob Jul 31, 2016 8:19 AM Flag

    oh, I don't recall MENTIONING "sales" WITH RESPECT TO ACCOUNTING... but since you mention that ...LET ME SHOW YOU "AN EXAMPLE" OF "HOW EASY IT IS TO MANIPULATE SALES"...and "all perfectly LEGAL... "STUPID"...

    a. let's say SOMEONE YOU KNOW WELL ...get's a NEW JOB as a "stockbroker"...AND THE COMPANY TELLS THEM ...that "to keep or do well in the NEW JOB they just got hired for... THAT HAVE TO SHOW...like a bunch of NEW BROKERAGE ACCOUNTS...during their "first month" ...TO INDICATE "they can AGGESSIVELY BRING IN NEW "CLIENTS AND MONEY" FOR THE COMPANY.........."getting the picture, here???

    b. so this ONE GUY I KNOW... well he looks at the "other potential new trial brokers" he is competin' with ...determines THAT if he gets about "30 new customers" ...he FOR SURE will be one of the "new brokers INTERNS that makes the cut, etc....

    c. so WHILE some OF THE OTHER INTERNS...are "going like mad" COLD CALLIN' to get new customers...

    THIS GUY ...just "makes a few phone calls" to A FEW OF HIS friends, acquaintances, relatives...AND IN A FEW DAYS ..."GET THIS STUPID"... HE'S GOT "THE 30 NEW BROKERAGE ACCOUNTS"...from his connections...

    ........
    now THIS MIGHT SEEM UNFAIR... to the OTHER INTERNS... that THAT is how "he OUTCOMPETED THEM" THEY... who "tried to be completely honest and ethical...but THE GUY I KNOW... didn't really break any laws...perfectly legal ...WHAT HE DID...

    but the other INTERNS ...just didn't have "so many connections with money" THAT THEY COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IN THAT WAY...

    so SEE HOW SALES can be manipulated... NEED "A LITTLE BOOST IN SALES"... to "improve last minute SALES figures DUMMY...

    also... you can do this BY RUNNING UP "LEGITIMATE SALES" with respect to ACCOUNTING ...show profits...KNOWING FULL WELL... that a "good chunk of those sales" IS GOING TO BE REFUNDED "in the futture"...SO THAT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE...of how ALL THIS "ACCOUNTING CRAP" like SALES AND PROFITS AND EARNINGS...CAN and often are HEAVILY AN "ILLUSION"....

    ...

  • flashrob flashrob Jul 31, 2016 6:52 AM Flag

    here's an example TO SHOW YOU "YOU MORON" that YOU CAN MANIPULATE PROFTI...and "GET THIS YOU DUMMY"...it's NOT CONTRACT FRAUD!!!

    ...an example of HOW LITTLE YOU KNOW...shootin' your mouth off regularly...

    one of the "later stage ACCOUNTING SPREADSHEET entries I MADE on a "potential biz contract" ...was TO DETERMINE..."what precentage of profit WE WANTED TO MAKE... like did WE VARIED "OUR EXPECTED PROFIT"....we might use 10% or 14% or 16%...ALL "VARYING THE PROFIT in accounting terms" ...BUT "NOT CONTRACT FRAUD ...YOU DUMMY...

    we could even "do projects" at a LOSS ...mainly because WE "ALREADY HAD PLENTY OF PROFITABLE CONTRACTS... but for whatever reason ...we wanted a project with a "certain company" AND WE COULD UNDERCUT THE COMPETITION... all legal MORON...but actually QUITE MANIPULATIVE...

    like you're competitor thought "he was gonna WIN by "undercutting "his profit" to the bone... BUT YOU WERE EVEN SMARTER... you "caused him a loss of that project" BY WILLIN' TO "LOSE MONEY ON THE DEAL"

    ...SO THAT'S JUST A SAMPLE "MORON" ...of PERFECTLY LEGAL ACCOUNTING "MANIPULATION OF PROFITS"... YOU DUMB "BULLSH..TER...

    ..BUT THEN THAT'S WHY I DON'T WASTE MY TIME ... on "lame arguments and LEVELS like you favor"...

    ..
    I KNOW THE "WEATHERMEN "DON'T CONTROL THE WEATHER"...so their forecasts... though, better them "some lamebrained "non-specialist" ...well, the METEOROLGIST can probably do better than him at forecasting the weather...(exception if WEATHERMAN is enamored with "ETHICAL ACCOUNTING") ...give me a brealk... that's practically an "oxymoron" ETHICAL ACCOUNTING"...

    tell me "how many people" DONT' BREAK THE LAW EVERY DAY... I CAN TELL YOU A "MAJORITY BREAK THE LAW..."EVERY DAY"... and without USING ACCOUNTING... OR DOING A SCIENTIFIC STUDY "YOU MORON!"

    try this:

    a. a MAJORITY OF working PEOPLE DRIVE...

    b. that MAJORITY OF PEOPLE "EXCEED THE 25MPH LIMIT ...

    c. GOT THAT YOU "MORON"??? AND, I don't need ACCOUNTING or a "scientific study" TO KNOW THAT!!!

  • flashrob flashrob Jul 31, 2016 6:18 AM Flag

    that's REALITY you "stupid DUMMY"...

    i guess you STILL BELIEVE IN SANTA and the EASTER BUNNY... YOU "PATHETIC MORON"...

    "money talks" and bullsheet walks... ever here that expression you "MORON!"

    ...........
    honesty and integrity in BIZ... maybe for "lots of small biz and THE "HOT DOG CART GUY..."

    IT'S LIKE "POLITICIANS .....STUPID... the MAJORITY OF THEM are "significantly compromised!"

    ..............
    and you DUMMY ...are acting "like THE MAJORITY of people are "highly ethical ESPECIALLY IN BIZ???

    .........GIVE US A BREAK "WITH YOUR LAME THINKIN' ...........FANTASY!

    .............
    you're like the FOXES tellin' the CHICKENS ...they need to let FOXES be in charge...because the chickens squabble amongst themselves so much...

    ...........
    bottom line: I SKIN FOXES...

    .........
    look at the PUB party...one of my other interests... HOW THEY DOIN'...not so good it appears...

    or European conservatives... like German bankers... How they doin' ...another one of my "interests"...

    ................
    yeah, I just like "skinning foxes" wherever and whoever they be...

    .........
    it's like that DUMMY...

  • flashrob flashrob Jul 30, 2016 10:01 PM Flag

    remember my "point about WOODEN SAILING SHIPS" ...AND THAT WHOLE POWERFUL GLOBAL NETWORK AND INDUSTRY were WIPED OUT ...by, first the introduction of the "steam engine" and THEN MUCH BIGGER... when SHIPS primarily became METAL HULLED and powered by DIESEL ENGINES...

    remember that POINT "MORON!"

    a. there was LOTS of accounting INVOLVED IN ALL OF THAT...
    b. there was LOTS of SCIENCE and TECH...involved ...even in wooden ships...
    c. there were GIANT "wooden" ship-building facilities
    d. there were HUGE SUMS of money involved in that...

    BUT GUESS WHAT... your like "the guy" who works for one of those wooden ship-building companies...or did...AND YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT ALL "BECOME OBSOLETE"... I understand that... BUT I'M NOT THE GUY DESTROYING ALL THAT... I'M JUST THE "OBJECTIVE SCIENTIST TYPE" POINTED OUT...

    that "there was a HIGH-PROBABLILITY ...that METAL HULLED SHIPS powered by DIESEL engines...WAS THE "FUTURE" ...and that INVEVITABLY "BIG MONEY" was gonna SWITCH to "the new tech" AND WITHDRAW THEIR SUPPORT AND INVESTMENT IN "WOODEN SHIPS" ...despite "a good relationship of hundreds of years...with the "wooden ship" biz, etc.

    so your like some "wooden shipbuilding related guy" ...trying argue about ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES...it's not about ACCOUNTING...(it's about accounting IF YOU'RE COMPARING "TWO WOODEN SHIPBUILDING COMPETITORS...then "YOUR TYPE OF ACCOUNTING/EARNINGS/PROFITS/MKTS" MEAN SOMETHING...

    but WHEN THE WHOLE "WOODEN SHIPBUILDING INDUSTRY" is gonna get MADE OBSOLETE...

    THEN...it's about INVESTING AND BACKING what's BIG ENOUGH AND POWERFUL ENOUGH TO DO THAT...

    it's NOT JUST "ELON AND TESLA"...it's THE FACT THAT "PURE EV" is gonna WIPE OUT GUZZLER...

    like NIKOLA TESLA...with his AC ...global electrification ...WIPED OUT THE "CANDLE AND KEROSENE" CROWD...they were THE GLOBAL LEADERS FOR A LONG TIME... but WHEN new VIABLE TECH... finally shows itself... IT'S "INEVITABLY" OVER ...for the EXISTING "PARADIGM"...

    IT'S A "NO-BRAINER" DUMDUM...

  • flashrob flashrob Jul 30, 2016 9:41 PM Flag

    a. you DUMMY ...I did the accounting in two of my jobs...

    b. almost any entry WAS VARIABLE... often I did "multiples" spreadsheet compilations... so we would show varied numbers...
    sometimes you deferred potential losses... waiting to off set them with big income you knew you were LIKELY to have in a future time/quarter, etc...
    ...then we run it by the board...who said "go with this or that"...

    some numbers of variable ...because many are "guestimates" STUPID... if you make a late delivery...you could get asked for a "reduction in price" under threat of unspoken lawsuit... late production often entailed "price increases"...MY POINT: NUMBERS ARE FREQUENTLY CHANGING "FOR VARIOUS REASONS"...gives you a lot of play "you may know ahead of time" that you'll never deliver ONTIME and their "will be cost OVERUNS"...but you can SUBMIT A "PROFIT SHOWING PLAN" ...EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW - "based on your inside knowledge of the company"...THAT THEY WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO "FULFIL THE CONTRACT IN TIME" AND therefore "your suppliers" WILL WANT "HIGHER PRICES FOR THE MATERIELS" THEY SUPPLY...

    HOW STUPID ARE YOU TO "NOT KNOW ALL THIS???" when you're shooting off your "idiot mouth" with dumb SWEEPIING GENERALIZATIONS...

    c. so there are LOTS OF FACTORS IN ACCOUNTING ..."almost all variable" ...depended what we wanted to shift, delay, include, exclude, modify,pay...to "ULTIMATELY SHOW" to whoever...

    ..........
    I can't educate you MORON... but you seem to think "most biz people" are like some "kind of saints"...MOST OF THAT IS BULLSHEET...

    ......did you read my last post FROM "INVESTOPEDIA" ...they pretty much tell you THAT "IT YOU REALLY WANT TO PLAY IT SAFE AS AN INVESTOR... you "TAKE EVERYTHING IN ACCOUNTING" FROM A COMPANY with "salt"...they even recommended "just investing in FUNDS instead of INVIDIVIDUAL COMPANIES...BECAUSE "THERE WAS SO MUCH ACCOUNTING PHONINESS IN TOO MUCH OF BIZ...

    but then YOU'RE "JUST PLAYIN' DUMB" vested interest...

    YOU and yours WILL STILL LOSE!

  • flashrob flashrob Jul 29, 2016 7:30 PM Flag

    try BORDERS...SEARS...OFFICE DEPOT...KODAK...UNDERWOOD...

    THEY "ALL HAD PERIODS OF PROFITABILITY... but they ARE ALL LOSERS... despite "showing profits" sometimes for years...

    MANY OF THOSE HOLDING "CORPORATE BONDS" OR WHO HAPPENED TO BE SITTIN' ON THE STOCK... AS IT STEADILY DECLINED ...thinking "mgmt gonna turn this around" etc....ALL "FANTASY BULLSHEET ...in the face of either "too much competition" ...new tech innovation...or global consumer downturn in purchasing...

    yep BUT "WE DID ONCE HAVE QUITE A "PROFITABLE RUN" ...had good earnings and all that...

    WALL ST... wants to KNOW ABOUT WHAT YOU GONNA BE DOING IN THE FUTURE... current earnings is OK... past earnings track record "might get you a little more attention and respect......

    but the BOTTOM LINE for WALL ST... is we AREN'T YOUR BUDDY... UNLESS YOU "SHOW US THE MONEY"...OR WHERE YOU GONNA BE GETTIN' IT FROM "IN THE FUTURE"...GOT THAT COACH...

    WHERE YOU GONNA GET THE MONEY FROM "IN THE FUTURE!!! ...IS WHAT "WALL ST" WANTS TO KNOW... AND SCREW "ALL THE OTHER "VARIABLE ACCOUNTING TECHNIQUES" TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE YOU'RE DOING "FAR BETTER THAN YOU REALLY ARE"...

    LOOK AT VW ...how to you produce CARS AT A PROFIT... with that "huge multi-billion" liability around your neck... AND I DON'T NEED TO "SEE OR DO ANY ACCOUNTING" ...TO KNOW VW IS IN "DEEP SHEET"...

    SO ARE YOU STUPID OR WHAT COACH... WHY DON'T YOU TELL "VW" how you can "show profits" so their stock goes up big time and recovers...

  • flashrob flashrob Jul 29, 2016 7:11 PM Flag

    so, as I was saying...I replaced my "heavy expensive sound system" with a Sony cd player and a set of good headphones...and started buying from "the ever-increasing selection of CD's in the mall record stores"...
    ...so Maranz, Pioneer, Grundig, Shure cartridges... HAVE YOU SEEN ANY OF THAT IN "BESTBUY" LATELY...or "kodak film cameras"...ALL GONE ...KODAK for sure bankrupt with MOSTLY OBSOLETE FILM PHOTOGRAPHY... so DEBATE THAT ...look at all the ASIAN cars on the road over here...TOYOTA... gigantically eclipsed GM, FORD...that's REALITY...and they will invevitably DECLINE TOO... if they keep "depending on producing and selling guzzlers..."

    side point: now the only place Ii see A LOT OF VINYL records. is in "flea-mkts" (good indoor one in Berlin, NJ) but haven't been there in years... (used to live by AC) but in the country...

    so that's ACCEPTING and adapting to the THE CONTINUALLY ACCELERATING STREAM OF "NEW TECH INNOVATIONS...

    IT'S "RIGHT THERE ALL AROUND YOU COACH" ...but you insist on NUMBERS/ACCOUNTING/CALCULATIONS...

    DO SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS ON "UNDERWOOD...OLIVETTI...KODAK"...and let me know THEIR FUTURE! (of course you have to work your numbers in a "narrow time-slot" WITHIN "circa" the fifties or sixties, if I remember when I last say that kind of office equipment ANYWHERE...

    yep...COACH... it's pretty OBVIOUS to anybody WHO READS "BOTH OUR POSTS" ...who can make a WINNING ARGUMENT...about things...

    even TESLA... "which is mostly owned by big money" ...GUESS YOUR TELLIN' US ...THAT YOU "KNOW BETTER THEN THEM! ...why do you think FORD AND GM stock is BELOW 50 and TESLA IS ABOVE 200...the reason COACH is that BIG MONEY WALL ST ...doesn't WORK FOR GM OR FORD... they are interested AND PLACING THEIR "BETS" ON WHO IS GONNA WIN THE BATTLE BETWEEN "PURE EV" mostly championed by TESLA... and "ever-declining GUZZLER"... did you see the FORD MOTOR TAKE... AIN'T LOOKIN TOO PROMISIN' FOR GUZZLER....

  • flashrob flashrob Jul 29, 2016 6:43 PM Flag

    YOUR A "MORON...try substance... BUT YOU GOT NONE... because unfortunately for YOU ...I got "reality" on my side...

    the world used to have trade that was BEFORE THE tech innovation of ...adding machines, calculators, cellphones and computers...lots of deals were done with a "handshake"...

    you CAN'T ACKNOWLEGE OR EVEN ARGUE ..."TECH INNOVATION" REGULARLY "ECLIPSING EXISTITNG TECHNOLOGY...

    you're like some DOPE ...who has a VESTED INTEREST BUSINESS IN "producing VINYL records" ...WHERE IS THAT NOW... IT'S ALL "A WHOLE DIFFERENT LASER-BASED TECHNOLOGY...THAT put that "old boy VINYL VESTED INTEREST" CROWD OUT OF BUSINESS...

    and IMAGINE all the people INVOLVED IN THE ACTUAL PRODUCTION of those "vinyl records"...college degrees, with MAYBE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE... in the complexities of "manufacturing VINYL RECORDS"...

    SO BOTH THOSE "PEOPLE DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THE PRODUCTION OF VINYL RECORDS"...well there was little use for them...

    the ARMY gives you good tech training...BUT IT ISN'T GONNA HELP YOU MUCH if it involves "maintenance of the weapons systems on helicopter gunships...WHEN YOU GET OUT ...even though you were an expert and highly skilled... THEY DON'T HAVE "WEAPONS SYSTEMS" ON COMMERCIAL HELICOPTERS...

    I know because LOADS OF "EX MILITARY JET PILOTS" ...WHO REGULARLY "TOOK OFF, FLEW MILITARY MISSIONS AND CAME BACK TO THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER... one day I was assigned to teach one of those high-tech guys about computers and big sales...(we sold a lot to the military...so these "ex-jet-jockeys" were officers and that "did help sales" to the military because of their background...SO YOU CAN BE "EVEN IN THE WRONG ELEMENT OF EXISTING TECHNOLOGY...LET ALONE TRYING TO "MAINTAIN INVESTORS AND INTEREST IN OBVIOUSLY RAPIDLY BECOMING "OBSOLETE" TECH...LIKE VINYL RECORDS...

    IT TOOK A FEW YEARS...but I put my "expensive tuner/pre-amp/amp" and super speaker sound systems (that cost thousands even at a discount) and got a SONY CD PLAYER AND A GOOD SET OF HEADPHONES...

  • flashrob flashrob Jul 29, 2016 5:29 PM Flag

    my point, COACH, is that .........I ADAPTED TO ALL THESE CHANGES.......

    and actually have "more on my plate" then I can handle...I'm semi-geek in LINUX ...use many different systems on 5 laptops...

    ........I live pretty well... maid, heated in-ground pool....mountain and woods views in all directions...

    ..............
    keep up with your old "trying to LIVE IN THE PAST" ...and there's a bed with a "clipboard" on the foot of it...WAITING FOR YOU in the "nursing home...

    SO MY ADVICE...STAY YOUNG by "gettin' WITH THE TIMES...and embrace THE NEW TECH...you use a CELL and COMPUTER... so you see...YOU CAN'T HELP BUT "BE PART OF THE NEW TECH"...despite all your whining about THE NEW YOUNG BULL INNOVATORS LIKE ELON!

    yeah, I wax nostalgic... I remember the "CORNER SWEET SHOPPE" ...(ICE CREAM PARLOR)...in my town growin' up in the fifties"...
    ...no cellphones, no computers, back then... used to go to the library back then...HAVE A BEAUTIFUL multilevel library IN MY TOWN "now" ...out in historic area...BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN TO IT IN OVER 3 YEARS... because I can get EVERYTHING ONLINE NOW...I don't even read "books or newspapers" anymore...can even get the LOCAL TOWN NEWS on my computer...so why bother...the local supermkt will even "shop and deliver" your groceries from your online order...same or next day for about 20 dollars total for all that... in terms of time and gas...that's pretty cheap...

    so, I'll keep a car... but uber and lyft probably on the way soon... some people with less resources than me will probably drop their cars...car payments...car insurance...and use that occasionally...

    so ALL THESE are CHANGES that "many people" WILL PROBABLY EMBRACE...expecially if they have limited resources...

    that's THE COMING REALITY "COACH" and many of us ARE ALREADY STARTING "TO LIVE IT!"

  • flashrob flashrob Jul 29, 2016 5:11 PM Flag

    read a HISTORY BOOK... better yet A "HISTORY OF ADVANCES IN TECHNOLOGY" periodically and ROUTINELY "ECLIPSING" and REPLACING "existing technologies"...

    THAT'S "REALITY" ...whether YOU LIKE IT OR NOT...

    a. how many typewriters do you see???
    b. how many people still use kerosene and candles???
    c. how many people travel by HORSE-DRAWN stagecoaches or surreys???
    d. how many people "cross the oceans" on WOODEN SAILING SHIPS???
    e. how many AIRLINES still use "propeller powered aircraft???"
    f. how many people still use landline phones??? We don't even have one in the house for years already...much less an "answering machine."

    there are still some of all of the above...but they ARE A SMALL FRACTION of what they used to be "worldwide dominant leaders" IN WHAT THEY PROVIDED...

    a. these days ...I don't buy books... BORDERS went bankrupt... I just buy E-books... actually KINDLE on Amazon (my last 70 books....and I read them on a 50 inch hd flatscreen...don't need to turn pages...waste gasoline going to the mall bookstore... I see a book ..."one click on Amazon/Kindle and it's AVAILABLE...either on the Amazon "cloud" (stored on their hard-drives) or "another click and a free-copy is downloaded to one of my laptops...

    b. except for "groceries" or to "eat out" ...I don't even spend much time in malls...I can get "most stuff" on Amazon...delivered "the deliver charge" is a LOT CHEAPER "in time and money" then driving to a nearby mall...

    c. 90% of the TV I watch now...IS NOT LIVE... I'm selective ...got Netflix, Hulu, Comcast...and a bunch of other pay int'l sites...(so I don't get commercials, etc.) ....and I CAN SELECTIVELY WATCH... almost anything that is on "network live TV" ...the difference being... I CAN WATCH "WHAT I WANT"..
    WHEN I WANT...

    d. I don't work because "I can make more money then I ever made working" by daytrading...all thanks to "computer daytrading," etc. (I had hi-tech jobs above "elec engr" level and also worked in Info Tech ...hardwr/softwr/networking

  • flashrob flashrob Jul 29, 2016 4:15 PM Flag

    and LOTS OF PEOPLE were part of the "dominant land transportation" of HORSEY STUFF...

    with vast VESTED IINTEREST NETWORKS in ...

    a. stables
    b. coach and wagon mfrs
    c. country inns (mostly in dirt roads)
    d. huge horse farms (all over)
    e. saddle and tack
    f. blacksmiths

    .................
    and AT THAT TIME...just as HENRY FORD entered the scene...they still had "mostly DIRT ROADS"

    and a lot of "conservative old biz buggers" SAID this "henry ford" guy??? ....it'll never happen...you need better roads...and their ain't GASOLINE STATIONS all over the place...

    GET WITH REALITY... HENRY FORD "BROKE THEIR BACKS...AND THEIR "INVESTMENTS AND VESTED INTERESTS" ...THEIR "WHOLE NETWORK OF THINGS "HORSEY"...

    a. this also happened with the "GLOBAL WOODEN SAILING SHIP NETWORK"...replaced by "steamboats for a brief period" and THEN "THEY GOT THEIR "BIG NETWORKS AND INVESTMENTS" IN wooden sailing ships FINALLY TROUNCED BY "METAL SHIPS WITH DIESEL ENGINES...

    ..................
    WAKE UP TO REALITY "GLOBAL HISTORY HAS "ALWAYS BEEN" the REPLACEMENT OF THE "OLD BULLS" being PUT OUT TO PASTURE...(they are lucky they get that...)

    ..................
    same thing happened WITH "NIKOLA TESLA'S AC GLOBAL ELECTRIFICATION" ...whole giant worldwide networks of CANDLE AND KEROSENE INDUSTRY ...CRUSHED...and NOW IT'S TIME FOR THE
    END OF BIG "ICE" GUZZLER... will take a few decades AS "ALL THE OTHER PARADIGM SHIFTS DID"...

    BUT "THE CHANGES ARE "INNEVITABLE"... GET WITH REALTIY "COACH!" accept it...ADJUST TO IT...or get RUN-OVER by it...

    CHANGE "DON'T CARE WHAT "YOU" OR "I" want or think it should be...WE GET TO MAKE "LITTLE MODIFICATIONS of "these BIGGER SCALE CHANGES"

GLD
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