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lbcb321 120 posts  |  Last Activity: Jul 12, 2016 9:42 AM Member since: Jun 4, 2010
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  • Over 26,000 shares on the Bid within three cents of each other. Haven't seen that before. People are lining up to get those cheap shares if the manipulators try to drive it down again. Not many shares on the Ask. Nobody wants to sell. Short interest report comes out today. I think somebody is getting scared with not enough sellers to cover.

    The stack is looking very bullish now.

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    by sayuthink Jul 11, 2016 4:16 PM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 Jul 11, 2016 4:43 PM Flag

    It is an urban legend. Clint Eastwood did not make the statement, but it does represent his feelings to some extent. I agree wholeheartedly with it, but unfortunately it didn't come from Clint.

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    More Manipulation!

    by lbcb321 Jul 8, 2016 4:08 PM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 Jul 11, 2016 4:09 PM Flag

    Too funny!

    16:00:00 $ 1.85 100

    They placed their usual 100 share market sell order at the close and actually RAISED the price 2 cents. The last Bid was $1.85 and the last Ask was $1.86 with last sale price at the time of $1.83. That is hilarious how the manipulators got burned!

    We keep seeing someone buy thousands and then back off and reset the last sales price with 100 share sells. Trying to accumulate on the cheap.

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    Wheres the news??

    by logan12272008 Jul 11, 2016 12:23 PM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 Jul 11, 2016 1:25 PM Flag

    I asked IR if they had any guidance on when the judge's ruling would come from the April hearing. Since it was a generic reply, I will share it for others who are wondering:

    You are not missing something, we are still awaiting the JMOL from the Blue Coat case and expect it any day. As you can appreciate we can’t predict when the judge will issue the ruling but we definitely are anxious as well.



    They are expecting the JMOL (Judgment as a Matter Of Law) "any day". I think only the ignorant would sell before that announcement. It should come very soon and I can't imagine a scenario where the initial $39.5M wouldn't stand. It is much more likely that there will be enhanced damages plus fees ($7.8M asked for) plus interest.

    I think we will also see both more lawsuits and more licensing deals. Time for one or the other from the "dozens" of companies that are stalling. I can agree with getting the enhanced damages ruling first in order to make licensing look like a much better alternative than a lawsuit.

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    More Dilution!

    by lbcb321 Jul 10, 2016 10:07 AM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 Jul 10, 2016 10:25 AM Flag

    Dieter had the gall to claim that Sauer Energy was not selling off chunks of the company to survive. His exact words:

    "their founding entrepreneurs have already sold off sizable pieces of their company just to stay alive. Not a pretty picture but, believe me, that’s the way it usually is. But Sauer Energy is different"

    Oh Really? What about this statement from SEC filings:

    Risks Related to Common Stock
    The large number of shares eligible for immediate and future sales may depress the price of our stock.

    As of December 9, 2011 we had 77,964,436 shares of common stock outstanding. 32,995,200 shares are “free trading” and may serve to overhang the market and depress the price of our common stock.

    Additional financings may dilute the holdings of our current shareholders.

    In order to provide capital for the operation of the business, we may enter into additional financing arrangements. These arrangements may involve the issuance of new shares of common stock, debt securities that are convertible into common stock or warrants for the purchase of common stock. Any of these items could result in a material increase in the number of shares of common stock outstanding, which would in turn result in a dilution of the ownership interests of existing common shareholders. In addition, these new securities could contain provisions, such as priorities on distributions and voting rights, which could affect the value of our existing common stock.

    Tell us Dieter... from 32,995,200 free-trading shares to around 300M now with your latest toxic financing agreement sure to take you up to your 650M shares authorized and you claim you are "different" in that you haven't sold off pieces of the company to survive. Your continuous lies are indefensible. You take advantage of people with good hearts that want to support green energy. That is what makes you especially despicable. Your day of reckoning might not be in this life, but remember all you hurt as you take your last breath.

  • lbcb321 by lbcb321 Jul 10, 2016 10:07 AM Flag

    Another agreement with the toxic sharks to dilute you:

    "Investor shall purchase up to Three Million Dollars ($3,000,000) of the Company's Common Stock"

    Another horrible deal with Beaufort. It stayed around a penny the last time and will surely go under a penny during this dilution event as Beaufort will be selling HINDREDS OF MILLIONS of shares back into the market.

    Section 4.3 CAPITALIZATION. As of the date hereof, the authorized capital stock of the Company consists of 650,000,000 shares of Common Stock, $0.0001 par value per share, of which 273,433,644 shares were issued and outstanding as of June 28, 2016

    I estimated that due to Beaufort getting their shares at 72% of the price for the lowest VWAP price in the 10 preceding trading days, it would take between 400M - 500M shares for Sauer to collect the full $3M. Actually, even that isn't true. There is no way to collect the full $3M They only have around 350M shares left to issue to max out their 650M allotment and as hundreds of millions of shares get dumped the price will tank fast.

    You may very well see it right down to .0001 as the final shares get issued and Dieter and Ana pay themselves their last check and the company is no more.

    I will reply to this post with the proof of another huge lie by Dieter that makes this a total fraud.

  • 16:00:02 $ 1.74 10
    16:00:02 $ 1.74 10
    16:00:00 $ 1.74 80
    15:56:57 $ 1.79 100
    14:39:34 $ 1.78 100
    14:38:23 $ 1.81 5,301

    Look at the last 6 trades. Somebody bought 5,301 shares at the high of the day and then 3 small market orders came in at the close trying to knock it lower. You just have to laugh! They didn't even do them as one order. You can't make money on 10 share sales after paying a commission so the only possible explanation is illegal manipulation.

    The trading activity at the close all week needs to be presented to the SEC.

  • lbcb321 by lbcb321 Jul 8, 2016 3:07 PM Flag

    Monday, Aug 8 2016
    3:14-cv-01197-WHO - Finjan, Inc. v. Sophos, Inc.
    Final Pretrial Conference

    The parties will reconvene for a settlement conference scheduled for July 25, 2016.

    "The Court's Order will have a critical impact on Sophos' invalidity defense as they won't be able to rely on certain prior art used in a previous case with Finjan," said Julie Mar-Spinola, Finjan Holdings' Chief IP Officer and VP of Legal Ops. "We expect to proceed to trial in September with our infringement and damages case largely intact, especially given our claims that Sophos willfully infringed the '780 and '844 Patents. The Court's Order means that the issues at trial will be more focused on the question of infringement and less on the validity of Finjan's patents."

    Sophos can't possibly think their best option is to go to trial. Enhanced damages would be a near certainty. Watch for a settlement coming up in the foreseeable future. I can't see this one going to trial.

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    One thing I'm sure about this company.

    by pongman721 Jul 7, 2016 11:22 AM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 Jul 8, 2016 11:26 AM Flag

    It was interesting that someone tried to take it down and the end result was that it has come back even higher than when the takedown began. What is suspicious is it just wasn't placing orders for a number of shares to be sold; rather, it was peppering the Bid with 100 share sell orders over and over to drop the price. There was no attempt to maximize revenue. The only purpose was to lower the price and take out stops. I feel sorry for anybody who got stopped out yesterday and then all of a sudden the price is 20% higher than where it was when their shares were stolen.

    I think truthbetoldkids had the right idea in it is time to find out what is going on from the judge's clerk. Still no decision on an April hearing in Blue Coat #1 is just not how it is done. This judge is too good for that. Still think she must have been told to hold off as settlement negotiations are looking promising. I have asked some M&A people about Symantec agreeing to buy Blue Coat with that huge unknown liability out there. I was told that it is probable there is some type of stipulation it needs to be resolved before the deal is final or there will be a price adjustment reflecting the worst possible outcome.

    Wouldn't it be great if a master licensing deal was being worked on that would settle Blue Coat #1 and #2 along with the Symantec case? I would be happy with $50M upfront and $50M on January 1, 2017 and another $50M on January 1, 2018 for a total of $150M. Sounds fair to me.

    We need to see something done or tell the judge to issue her ruling. I believe she will grant enhanced damages as well as tack on fees and interest. Show the rest of the world that enhanced damages are the new norm thanks to the Supreme Court ruling and there should be more companies agreeable to fair licensing deals. I agree to "licensing best practices" only to a certain point. We are being taken advantage of now and it is time for put up or shut up. One new licensing deal and one new lawsuit say they agree.

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    One thing I'm sure about this company.

    by pongman721 Jul 7, 2016 11:22 AM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 Jul 7, 2016 4:22 PM Flag

    How do you have a best Bid of 1.77 and with a best Ask of 1.82 and have 1.69 print at exactly 16:00:00 when the last sale was 1.78?

    These 100 share sells at the close are getting comical. Someone is even routing a market order to some specific exchange where they know it won't be a good fill.

    At first I thought it was someone who saw the "insider sale" filing. I was watching for that today as there are always people who don't understand what happened. Hartstein had 12,500 more shares vest in his stock plan and 5,000 of them were automatically sold to cover taxes. This was what is known as a 10b5-1 plan. It was a PREARRANGED transaction locked-in back in 2015 and had nothing to do with management's current opinion of the stock price. There are always people who don't look deeper and misunderstand the "disposition" of stock by an insider.

    After the bogus sale again of 100 shares well below the best Bid once more, I think it goes deeper than that. It is either a short getting really scared and trying to take out some stops and generate panic selling or a potential acquirer trying to manipulate the price as they are negotiating a sales price.

    Not a problem... hope they keep doing it. I will keep taking them!

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    One thing I'm sure about this company.

    by pongman721 Jul 7, 2016 11:22 AM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 Jul 7, 2016 3:51 PM Flag

    It's a sale! Time to load up. No fundamentals have changed. I think I know why someone is selling. I'll fill you in after I load up.

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    Something BIG coming up!

    by lbcb321 Jul 5, 2016 3:11 PM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 Jul 6, 2016 4:10 PM Flag

    Pretty amazing day. Half a dozen buys of 1,000 or more shares immediately followed by sales of 100 shares at market trying to give the appearance of a falling price. Again with over a thousand shares bought near the close and then 100 shares sold BELOW the Bid right at the close.

    Painting the tape is illegal, but the SEC allows blatant frauds to continue trading so I'm sure they would laugh if somebody actually reported it. Sure would be nice to see who the illegal manipulators are. Only Finjan knows if they are actually negotiating based on their enterprise value. If so, they need to get the EC on this. It is easy to see who is making these illegal trades at the close to manipulate the price.

  • "At the very beginning, we incurred some debt, but that has long since been paid off."

    LMAO! They just issued tens of millions of shares to pay off debt. "long since" is a blatant lie proven by their SEC filings.

    "their founding entrepreneurs have already sold off sizable pieces of their company just to stay alive. Not a pretty picture but, believe me, that’s the way it usually is. But Sauer Energy is different"

    OMG! How can you increase shares rapidly from tens of millions to HUNDREDS of millions of outstanding shares and then claim you haven't sold off "sizable pieces" of the company? They have no cash and no means to raise enough cash to actually produce any product. All they do is raise enough cash to pay Dieter and Ana their salaries for doing nothing but putting out an email to their sucker's list once in awhile.

    "I want to express my sincere gratitude to our team of talented individuals"

    Refer back to their SEC documents where they show they have NEVER had any employees.

    "On a personal note, as President and CEO, I just want to say again that I totally dedicate myself to all who depend on me — our staff and investors, of course, but also to our future customers who are lining up to purchase WindCutter."

    How can he totally dedicate himself when he has another job? Sauer Energy is not his full-time employment. More talk of "staff" when there is none.

    I'm not stupid enough to be defrauded by him so I have no standing. Anybody who has been defrauded should go straight to the authorities. The case for fraud is easily proven from publicly-available documents.

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    by lbcb321 Jun 8, 2016 5:17 PM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 Jul 5, 2016 8:26 PM Flag

    =There's something wrong with the stock price and it's troublesome to me.

    Then you're not looking at the whole story. It was .81 less than 4 months ago. When it went to $1.75 in April, I said that it needed to backfill. It came back to $1.10 and I loaded up down there. Each time it popped, I said it needed to backfill but we would keep setting a higher base. Higher highs and higher lows is what I stated many times. For an eighty-one cent stock to go up a buck in 4 months might not be enough for you, but this backfilling was necessary and there is now an extremely strong floor.

    =I just don't see anything big happening.

    Wow! Just what we know gives us many pops coming up and then there are more like the surprise licensing deal and a new lawsuit that should bring in between $44M and $150M by the time the legal process completes. Their PR today confirmed they are in talk with DOZENS of companies. Now they have the money to enforce their patents. You will see more licensing deals and more lawsuits soon. It will snowball.

    I think they have come a huge way in less than 4 months. Fine if you disagree. It was less than two months ago I first posted the tip here when it was $1.13. I chuckle you say it hasn't done anything, but obviously you have to do what is right for you.

    All I know is somebody bought 34,444 shares in a single buy today. You don't see something like that unless there is knowledge of something coming up soon. I will stick around until I don't see a reason to anymore. I have been doing this a long time and this is one of the better situations I have ever come across. Everybody will say they saw it in hindsight, but I am just amazed few are acting on it. I made millions of dollars on my physical silver lately and even if I go up to 5% ownership it still feels like house money.

    Good luck to you, also!

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    Something BIG coming up!

    by lbcb321 Jul 5, 2016 3:11 PM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 Jul 5, 2016 4:21 PM Flag

    Ya just gotta shake your head at how obvious the manipulation is. A 34,444 share buy at $1.88 followed by three 100 share sells at $1.85, $1.82 and $1.79 to drop it at the close. Looks like the negotiations are going hot and heavy to determine the sales price.

  • Very interesting trading activity. Blocks being bought and then attempts to quickly lower it. Did you see that big buy of 34,444 shares just go by?

    Someone is trying to buy all they can before the announcement. What is the announcement?

  • lbcb321 lbcb321 Jul 5, 2016 9:00 AM Flag

    In the U.S. action, Finjan is seeking, among other things, a jury trial, damages of not less than $44M, injunctive relief, enhanced damages, and reasonable attorneys' fees and costs.

    And don't forget the enhanced damages and fees! Recent Supreme Court decisions have made it likely to receive both in situations like these. When the licensing negotiations have been going on for a period of time and the validity of your patents are confirmed over and over at both the patent office and through the courts, WILLFUL INFRINGEMENT is pretty much a given.

    It looks like they are doing what I hoped and are doing a final round of sign a licensing deal or get sued. I believe you will see both in the near future. More licensing deals and more lawsuits.

    Keep throwing more in the pipeline and you can make a case for calling it recurring revenue as you will see payments for the next 3 or 4 years just on what is filed today. When I did a search of European companies to look for candidates for the last licensing deal, ESET was one of the top companies. This could very well be a $100M payday by the time all is said and done!

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    by lbcb321 Jun 8, 2016 5:17 PM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 Jul 2, 2016 7:20 PM Flag

    It doesn't take a buyout for it to go way up from here. I probably bought your shares. I'm well over 200K shares now. Several built-in pops with events we know are coming up soon. Surprised you didn't at least wait for one of them. Hit $2.60 on the last one and then backfilled nicely for a much higher base.

    If they can become profitable on their two business units I will invest just shy of becoming a 5% owner. Their management team has built multi-billion dollar business units for many successful companies including Cisco. If it looks like that won't happen, I will sell on a pop from licensing revenue. They still have a lot of money to collect from Blue Coat, Symantec, Palo Alto Networks, Sophos and FireEye as well as more of the smaller licensing deals to come.

    Good luck.

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    Something is brewing...

    by brennus01 Jun 30, 2016 11:14 AM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 Jun 30, 2016 11:30 AM Flag

    I noticed it and commented on it.

    My fear is over a 100% premium would look good on paper and they would agree to let Symantec acquire them for $100M in exchange for good jobs with them. I believe the only way we could go over two months without the judge ruling on enhanced damages is if she was told to hold off while they were negotiating a settlement. $39.5M + $7.8M in fees X 3 = $141.9M before we even get to interest for 3 or 4 years. That is only case #1 and doesn't include Blue Coat case #2 or the Symantec case. And of course that is just the value to Symantec and doesn't include anything for other cases and potential licensing deals or the value of Finjan Mobile and CybeRisk.

    Anything under $200M is a joke and Cisco or one of the other players could easily justify $400M - $500M to control the Finjan patent portfolio and gain a competitive edge. I believe I have seen numbers of $20B to $25B for the expected size of the market in just a few years.

    So which is it? Inept marketing or desire to keep the price down?

    This is the best kept secret in the markets. Why?

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    Licensing deal

    by truthbetoldkids Jun 30, 2016 9:41 AM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 Jun 30, 2016 10:38 AM Flag

    Only preaching to the choir again. Only people that know of the news are the ones on the Finjan email list. Nothing from Marketwire, PR Newswire, etc.

    They still aren't very good at getting the news broadly disseminated. Need to spend the $100 to get it out through the news services. The way you get more eyeballs is along with their standard footer of ongoing litigation with Symantec, Palo Alto Networks, FireEye and Sophos, they need to add the stock symbols and get their PRs viewed by those followers, also.

    It is almost like they are trying to go unnoticed. I hope they don't agree to sell the company cheap for well-paying jobs with the acquirer at the expense of shareholders.

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