Same as their TV...hopefully never. They can't compete in either market.
The I-phones still a great device, but even that is being diluted by "better, and cheaper".
Here's a scary thought. Go back to when it was in the $10 range and my recollection is it tended to trade at a multiple of 10! You don't want to do the arithmetic on that scenario, but when they break down like this anything is possible. There's just no serious market for this outside the cozy little group that's held it all these years
I don't fault them for not adding more Tokyo's in such a short time, but they do have to get that pe down. As you point out they'll need more big wins to accomplish that or get better traction from their pipeline of offerings. And we've heard little about that.
I suppose the comforting stat is the insiders are holding, it's the funds moving out.
Not me. Y#$%$hoo seems to be repl#$%$cing letters with symbols. Noticed it on #$%$ couple of other posts #$%$s well. Converts them to nonsensic#$%$l.
Be p#$%$tient, it will get worse.
Combined wholes#$%$le business is doing ok#$%$y, but they're m#$%$n#$%$ging to undermine th#$%$t with ret#$%$il exp#$%$nsions th#$%$t #$%$re killing them.
More stores, more lines th#$%$t #$%$ren't selling ect ect. Presum#$%$bly they c#$%$n't #$%$fford the fin#$%$nci#$%$l hit from closing the ret#$%$il ops, so they're digging the hole deeper by exp#$%$nding.
My bet is the resolution to the debt problem will be cured by them doing #$%$n equity sw#$%$p th#$%$t'll virtu#$%$lly wipe out the common holders. Who re#$%$lly knows wh#$%$t cures #$%$re built into those existing #$%$greements, m#$%$ybe it's #$%$lre#$%$dy #$%$ done de#$%$l.
Of course, unless the lenders h#$%$ve #$%$ s#$%$tisf#$%$ctory cure in pl#$%$ce, it'll now be #$%$ who blinks first scen#$%$rio. If the lenders force them into b#$%$nkruptcy they'll get squ#$%$t so equity seems the most likely solution, followed by c#$%$ving #$%$nd t#$%$king #$%$ h#$%$ircut.
Suggest you ignore their headlines and read the actual financials. Revenue and bottom lines for qtr and 9 mos down from prior year. They selected the few positives to use as the headlines..just like most others do.
Going back to $1. It's the way these reverses work. The dopes do them to get the stock price up for ego and at the advice of their lawyers who make $ doing the paperwork, and all it does it put air under the price for the shorts to profit from.
The action of the past few weeks has been the heavy holding funds moving out? This whole testing process isn't exactly leak proof and these major holders sometimes get their information shall we say a bit early.
Next insider/institutional report will be interesting, but too late if this is the case.
Maybe I just don't get it anymore. Both sides use the rules to enforce their wills. Both Obama and Boehner have dug in with their positions and refuse to budge. Yet, the media has decided Boehner and the Tea Party are wholly responsible for any adverse outcome. How does that work? Seems they all should get equal "credit". And BTW I'm in Tea Party corner. Something has to be done to control this monster and starving it seems the only path left.
Is there anything else you morons can blame on the Tea Party? How about the crucifixion of Christ?
I guess there really is no cure for stupid.
With the path that these retail stores are on unless they get a marijuana license nothing's going to save them.