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namxorex 95 posts  |  Last Activity: Jul 11, 2016 5:54 PM Member since: Jun 26, 2008
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  • Reply to

    Zacks upgrade

    by inder62401 Jul 11, 2016 3:08 PM
    namxorex namxorex Jul 11, 2016 5:54 PM Flag

    I used to trust Zacks much more back when they set 6 month price targets in their reports and gave actual ratings. In the last couple of years, I have seen them play a lot more of the analysts tricks and games and they rate everything "hold" most of the time. They've made a lot of changes and my trust just isn't with them so much anymore.
    I do like the write-up that they have done on PACB here. Thank you for sharing.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Aug 2, Roche Diagnostics Day

    by keybillyislandale Jul 11, 2016 1:40 PM
    namxorex namxorex Jul 11, 2016 5:49 PM Flag

    Leaked, tweetd, re-tweeted, un-tweeted.....
    .....at this point, does it really matter?
    At least the dude found it and shared it. It may not even go that way anyways.

    This is among the worst of PR handling which I have seen for ANY companies (not just biotech).
    At least we can (hopefully) count on that Roche is planning some sort of news event day on August 2nd. Let us hope that it translates into "something" for us lowly folks down here.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    The Roche logo from this picture is clear

    by msg_stock Jul 9, 2016 10:10 AM
    namxorex namxorex Jul 9, 2016 2:56 PM Flag

    Thank you to you also msg_stock.
    Your methods are somewhat unorthodox but still "get the job done". {if that translates into your language ;-) }
    Hey, who am I to judge.
    I guess this is the ONLY way we get information, in dribs and drabs and leaked junk and what people can find tweeted or whatever.

    I still wish the companies (PacBio and or Roche) would just come out AND SAY IT (for Pete's sake).
    We all know it's there; holding the news back is quite possibly the worst way in which the company could handle this stuff (in my view at least).
    Not my product, not my company though........

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    The Roche logo from this picture is clear

    by msg_stock Jul 9, 2016 10:10 AM
    namxorex namxorex Jul 9, 2016 2:48 PM Flag

    Thank you, another.
    The term "geniuses" isn't really used loosely here; now is it?
    I looked up "something" on Dr. Albanell's name and got back (a bunch) of results from Hospital Del Mar.
    He's pretty storied and celebrated as a researcher, physician, etc. (I guess).
    I would guess that since he is in the center of the back row, he IS probably THE FOCUS of the photo.

    So, maybe these people don't related directly to Roche or PacBio directly. They are heavy-weight researchers using the equipment of one of the other.

    OK. Not much to relate other than that, I suppose. Your information is still helpful and appreciated, Sir (a deep bow to you). Thank you again.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    If you are an real long

    by msg_stock Jul 8, 2016 9:44 PM
    namxorex namxorex Jul 9, 2016 10:54 AM Flag

    Beg your pardon on this, Sir; but while the machine (et al) may be owned by PacBio / Roche, MY DNA is owned exclusively by me.
    I understand your point, but I (most certainly) an NOT in the habit of handing over my DNA for some random genetic "fishing expedition" (for free).
    If I have a need or a requirement to provide a DNA sample (like I did for analysis of my paternal ancestors), then that is one thing. But it ISN'T required for being a shareholder. I get one vote for all of my shares and there are not rules, guidelines, provisions (esp. ownership, it's still a gray area) of shareholders coughing up a sample. So, no thank you.

    It's a nice idea that you have, and I do like the company, but you go ahead and go first......

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    The Roche logo from this picture is clear

    by msg_stock Jul 9, 2016 10:10 AM
    namxorex namxorex Jul 9, 2016 10:44 AM Flag

    A couple of questions for you, since you were able to somehow get this photo.

    1.) Who are all of the 9 geniuses in this picture?
    The Roche logo, while clearly visible, is NOT in the center of the picture (nor is the machine). The 9 geniuses ARE in the center of the picture; so the photo would SEEM to be more about them rather than the machine.

    2.) Why all the need for "secrecy" in all of "this"?
    Why doesn't Roche just come out and release this business officially and OWN IT?
    Why the need to leak pictures of this or that on some obscure, backwater site or posting board?
    Everyone KNOWS this cat is out of the bag anyways; and when I say "everyone" I'm referring to the science communities, and PacBio's chief competitors. Heck, if we know it here, then EVERYONE knows it EVERYWHERE else. Stupid. These hide and seek games are really stupid.

    I don't understand the need of all of these "influentials" to get their selfies with a machine, that they almost seem to be trying to hide in the background BEFORE the official release of the damned thing. Crazy.
    What pictures like this one speak to me is that, these people (whoever they are) feel the need to advance themselves first, before the device. What is more important, the breakthrough of the device and technology or these people's careers in light of "all of that"?

    Perhaps, if they are the creators or the machine and technology, THEN I readily get it; but if they are not, then why the need for all of these "other circle-jerk activities"?

    We've been getting clobbered out here (in the share price) and these people are toasting themselves in front of a machine that they won't officially acknowledge (and yet pretty much EVERYONE knows it exists and is "out there")?
    Craziness.......

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Growth coming.

    by inder62401 Jul 7, 2016 6:23 AM
    namxorex namxorex Jul 7, 2016 2:27 PM Flag

    Fabulous!
    I'll start preparing many roasting sticks and a roasting pit.
    There is no more satisfying meal than char-roasted-short sellers.
    Especially when you just watch them burn to blackened perfection (even if you don't eat ANY of it).

    Let's get started as SOON as possible! :-D

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    There could be a short term bounce.

    by zchnrsym Jul 6, 2016 11:59 AM
    namxorex namxorex Jul 6, 2016 8:41 PM Flag

    Well, it's not just T/A. There is also a 50% chance of a Second Coming of Jesus within the same time-frame as the short term bounce, so...........
    .........just sayin........

    Sentiment: Hold

  • namxorex namxorex Jul 6, 2016 11:42 AM Flag

    It IS irritating, I can fully get behind that.
    I think you're right, "they KNOW they have to cover". What lies beyond that, though; that's what I don't like (esp. on no news).
    Roger that though, "hanging in there" (nothing else to do, but that). :-/

    Sentiment: Hold

  • namxorex namxorex Jul 6, 2016 11:15 AM Flag

    What will be the "excuse", I wonder?
    More brexit?
    Italian bank failures?
    Or maybe good ole' greece?! They haven't used that lie for a while now........

  • When the evil, blood sucking, GS says that they are going to "break the market by 10%", you can rely that they will make good on it. There IS apparently more "down" in our future. The shorts know it and will assuredly pile on excessively. Oh joy.
    ______________________
    Goldman Expects the S&P 500 to Fall as Much as 10 Percent Before Ending the Year at 2,100

    Sentiment: Hold

  • It surely isn't about news.
    PACB has been over-shorted in the last 4 weeks, therefore, the most likely explanation is covering.
    Why now? Why not just before earnings (later down this month)?

    My fears are that, if they are covering now, it can ONLY be because they are going to take it down further.
    (probably the buyout wonks will want to say that PACB is going up because of their "buyout cheeleading".)

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    I guess Roche may buy any hour....

    by michaelyeary Jul 5, 2016 12:34 PM
    namxorex namxorex Jul 6, 2016 9:05 AM Flag

    I AM real.
    I am really, "realistic". That's how "real" I am. Because........I know that things don't work that way MOST of the time.
    In comparison, (so far) you have been wrong for the last 20 or so hours.

    "Roche may buy any hour"; whereas, "in reality" Roche has NOT bought in any of the last 20 hours.

    Whatevrer, enjoy your fantasies. Please try to enjoy them more quietly.
    Not all of us are salivating with you over a buyout.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    I guess Roche may buy any hour....

    by michaelyeary Jul 5, 2016 12:34 PM
    namxorex namxorex Jul 5, 2016 11:01 PM Flag

    Dude, have you SERIOUSLY ever read any of your replies?
    "tell us how different between roche and pacbio to make the deal....."
    Whaaaaaaaaat? :-P

    Are there any "Cliff's Notes"published to use in deciphering your particular brand of cryptology?
    And please, try not to encourage the new kiddies with buyout titalations.
    Have you seen the share price lately?
    The share price needs "real help"; not buyout fantasies.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    I guess Roche may buy any hour....

    by michaelyeary Jul 5, 2016 12:34 PM
    namxorex namxorex Jul 5, 2016 4:27 PM Flag

    Sure, magic fairies come while you're asleep and plant "buyout kool-aide seeds" in your brain.
    Then, after nothing happens for weeks and months, reality and dis-enchantment set it.
    That's "how it works", Charlie Brown.

    Live in the "real" man! Follow the company and their product developments. Don't believe the buyout hype!

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Off the topiic of PACB for a moment, if you get the chance, check out the video of a school vice principal singing the National Anthem at the Lincoln Memorial on Youtube.

    Apparently she did it while on a visit to DC on June 16th.
    I saw it on Smerconish on CNN this AM.

    I love the reaction of the crowd at the memorial. At first no one is paying attention, but once she is in full flight she has them all in the palm of her hand.
    The best location for that song and she does a terrific job with it.

    I bet it even had Lincoln's statue smiling.

    Enjoy the weekend and remember the 240th. It will be back to salt mines soon enough on Tuesday.

    Salute! :-)

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Tweet on PACB board

    by inder62401 Jul 2, 2016 11:04 AM
    namxorex namxorex Jul 2, 2016 9:37 PM Flag

    Big Earnings soon?
    Before Earnings soon?
    Dunno.

    Hey, Happy 4th to you and yours Inder. Enjoy the weekend.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Give us a mid quarter update

    by viva_hdd Jul 1, 2016 9:29 AM
    namxorex namxorex Jul 1, 2016 1:13 PM Flag

    Right on, Brother. :-)

  • Reply to

    Give us a mid quarter update

    by viva_hdd Jul 1, 2016 9:29 AM
    namxorex namxorex Jul 1, 2016 1:11 PM Flag

    Nope. COMPLETELY wrong.
    If Roche REALLY didn't need PacBio, they WOULD NOT be here.
    End of story.
    Roche has been trying to get into the genetics sector since BEFORE their attempts at ILMN.
    They have kept a genetics-related facility, "just down the road" from PacBio's HQ. Look it up.
    Roche is STILL in a partnership with PacBio (period).

    Nanopore has now become an unknown quantity in the wake of that stupid "brexit" vote last week.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Give us a mid quarter update

    by viva_hdd Jul 1, 2016 9:29 AM
    namxorex namxorex Jul 1, 2016 1:04 PM Flag

    There have been others that state the possibility that Roche is behind all of this, using these tactics as "deal-making efforts" or tactics in their deal making. Certainly, I can't deny it, but neither would I confirm it.
    Looking at what has been published since the partnership was entered in 2013, it "appears" to be one of cooperation, rather than, " I just want to pone you and run away with all of the treasure".
    Heck, I think that Roche even paid PACB a milestone last year.

    Not that all business people are as pure as the driven snow, and far be it from me to suggest that business strategies are only played cleanly, BUT, if you found out that your partner were "putting it to you" or sleeping with your spouse or some other nastiness where it becomes clear that they are cheating you; then what would YOU do? Who would want to stay in an arrangement like that.
    Once trust is gone, not much else lasts (meaning the partnership arrangement).

    In all honesty, if Roche had not come forward to PACB in 2012-2013, we might not even have The Sequel. My point being that certainly Roche has put forward beneficial assets to PacBio.
    And I think, looking back where PACB was pre-2012, they certainly have benefited from the "arrangement".

    Conclusion: I certainly can't rule out some "fudging or monkey business" in various aspects (to include the stock), but the core of the partnering arrangement should be "mostly clean" so that self respecting people (in business), that are serious about their endeavors can relate to each other in "an above-board fashion".

    If I found myself involved in something like you are describing, I would terminate the deal (and arrangement ) and feel like I needed to go take a shower.

    Sentiment: Hold