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rogere1946 528 posts  |  Last Activity: Jul 14, 2016 1:05 PM Member since: Feb 24, 2003
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  • rogere1946 rogere1946 Jul 14, 2016 1:05 PM Flag

    I started working a short time after the Miranda decision and almost all cops hated it. What it has done has forced cops to be more professional in how they go about proving up a case. Before Miranda a person could be held and questioned and in some cases man handled all without worrying about a lawyer. Those days are gone and in there place comes true detective work and now with DNA and other modern tools the job of proving a crime depending on a confession is less and less required and most of the time the arrested person knows they will be convicted due to good evidence and will try to plea bargain.

    I believe Body camera's will prove a lot of cops innocent and not guilty but they are bad apples out there and sadly good cops make mistakes all humans make mistakes. When a life is in the balance mistakes are often not allowed and cops know this so they try to make an honest mistake made in a split second while in the middle of a emotional and traumatic situation look as good as they can and thus they Lie and cover up trying to protect themselves and their job. This will always happen sadly as long as cops are human. The Training needs to change and so far I have no one suggest that is the problem. Too much force is being used when not needed and it is impossible to tell any community your there to help them and protect them when you are using more force than necessary. Sadly this needless force is being taught all the while that the cops are being told to get alone better with the community they work in. Giving candy to kids is fine but kids seeing cops throw people to the ground and team up on one man and hand cuff him when NO resistance is offered is flat wrong.

  • Reply to

    message board going out with new format

    by rogere1946 Jul 12, 2016 3:23 PM
    rogere1946 rogere1946 Jul 13, 2016 1:53 PM Flag

    gee diggler I will think about you every time I go the monkey cage at the zoo.

    Great news for you right wingers without the boards you will not have to suffer the humiliation of lossing in Nov in this public format. But don't worry I will laughing away thinking how upset you all will with HC victory after two losses to Obama it is very hard to be a right winger maybe that has driven so many of them crazy but you diggler I am sure was a nutter from birth.

  • rogere1946 rogere1946 Jul 12, 2016 5:05 PM Flag

    you past maybe

  • rogere1946 rogere1946 Jul 12, 2016 5:05 PM Flag

    rje only a racist like you would come up with the lets get rich by having kids idea. Much less your idea that any visit by a black man to his kids would happen in Prison.

    Just more of racist talk which of course none of your right wing buddies will call racist since they are racist and you being the town fool for racism are their hero. You say all things that the right wing racist have said for years. Do some black women have kids to get more from the Gov if so then why has the unmarried birth rate for black women dropped by 22% in the last ten years? Do you even know how much it cost to take care of a kid and how much the gov gives you to live on and all the hoops you have to jump through to get help?
    No your clueless but that dont stop you from running your racist mouth does it.

    I guess the sorry white males that visit their kids less than the black males do are too busy playing with their guns to visit their kids or I am sure your going to say it is because the prison system is easier on black males than white so they get less visiting time. hey the good news now they can use their free time to work for DT for president like you do.

    Always enjoy your racist post and enjoy the gutless other right wingers on here who will never admit your a racist. lol

  • I like all the good stuff quickly at hand with the new Yahoo site for stocks but it seems the message board is history or at least it appears it will be that way.

    maybe it is time but the new comment section is full of the same kind of nutters and not by subject matter either so looks like that is not as good as the old Message board. SAnders gave a great speech today on why he could not allow DT to win and will be out on the campaign trail for HC. Wise choice might be him for VP who else? He laid out the differences between the DT positions and the Demo position and he started with the min wage, and went down the list that drives all GOP voters on this list crazy.

    Going to be a long 4 months.

  • rogere1946 rogere1946 Jul 12, 2016 1:37 PM Flag

    sleep I was a cop of one kind or anyother for 27 years. I watch what passes for police work today with a stunned look. Our society has grown to respect and "fear" the police less and less and I understand how today cops are a more afraid than I was of being "resisted". 90% of the arrest I made I did so by a verbal command a pat down then into the back set of the car no cuffs. Some did get cuffs but usually to make apoint not out of fear of being attacked. No throwing someone on the ground and putting a knee to their back or to their neck as seems to be common practice today. I worked alone as much as I worked with a partner today it seems not to matter how many cops are at the scene of the arrest the same heavy handed unnecessary force is used. I susspect this all started with SWAT thinking or more militery type training than PROTECT and SERVE training. The problem I see with cops is system wide and throw into that a few hot headed cops a few racist cops and even worse a few cops scared to do their job and become gun happy you will continue to have problems like we have seen. Working in high crime rates of any race is more dangerous than working in the burbs and after a while a bad attitude of those you PROTECT and SERVE develops. I know that first hand. They ALL become #$%$ because 90% of who you deal with are #$%$ worse on the night shifts than days as any community function more at peace in day time than night. A Cop works nights for years in one area they all become the enemy and that is a problem the police seem to think community policing will cure but most of that goes on during the day time not at night.

    Bottom line is we do have a problem in law enforcement but it is not just racist. That it looks racist distracts to some degree from what it really is and as long as only racism is looked at the problem will go unsolved.

  • rogere1946 rogere1946 Jul 12, 2016 1:22 PM Flag

    charles great post you got 5 hands down from the racist cretins on this mb way to go. Make no mistake about it these "cretins" are both eco elitist as well as racial elitist. They actually judge the merit of a man by how money he makes and is worth. They all want to like DT. But sadly didn't have DT dad to make it happen. DT is white and rich so he is their hero. He has went through a series of hot babes including the latest one but so has Tiger Woods so race does not get you babe money does. Concern for their fellow man? Are you kidding they have great concern about their fellow man. Any man that makes the same money as they do they are concerned about his taxes being to high as their are. Any man that does not make the same money they are concerned about them as well. Concerned it will cost them tax dollars to keep them alive and clearly their tax dollars are worth more than that type of human life it is after all not their type of person now are they. Jesus was misquoted on all that love your neighbor stuff but his followers got it more coorect with the "Those who do not work will not eat" quote Now that is their brand of Christianity. Paul also said that those homosexuals were sinners so that gives them the right to let them starve to death as they do not want to hire them to work. Oh ok some of them who really love money will work anyone who will work for less than the min wage unreported as the Gov has no business telling them what they have to with their workers bad enough they can't have slave anymore but they can go to Asia with their companies and hire children and slave labor to fatten even more their asset ledger and all in the name of GOD given Capitalism.

    Self absorption you say? Them ? why not who better to be concerned about than myself and mine. The new Golden rule to them is HE WHO TAKES CARE OF HIMSELF FIRST AND BEST is a GOD pleaser let others take care of themselves and walk over anyone who gets in your way to the top

  • Reply to

    OT BS Let the aliens flood into America

    by barbershores Jul 12, 2016 10:26 AM
    rogere1946 rogere1946 Jul 12, 2016 1:02 PM Flag

    Well at least those IT workers pay taxes in the US as do illegals but when Disney and other Globalist US firms send those jobs to Asia instead of bringing in legal workers zero in tax dollars come in and Americans lose their job to them.

    That is Globalism of which every GOP: Senator and 95% of house GOP members support. DT says he is against it but his companies use Asian not American Labor so he is LYING a term that does not just apply to HC.

    You boys claim to be upset by this yet you vote every election for GOP globalist. Put your vote were your mouth is yaping if this bothers you stop electing GOP Globalist to office. Cant you find any NEW TYPE of GOP that will run as anti Globalist? didnt think so.

  • rogere1946 rogere1946 Jul 12, 2016 12:56 PM Flag

    dakine yes I know the right wing nut jobs do so hate facts as they find themselves it seems always on the other side of facts. They are political ideology puppies on a leash and collar held by the top 1% of our country of which DT is a leash holder and has his puppies heeling nicely. Nut jobs on this board have benefited nicely by the Demo Party policy of stemming the eco which the GOP was dead against. They were giving away billions to Wall Street firms who helped cause the crash but didn't want to give anything to the people who were hurting or create jobs the loony tunes house GOP boys even want to cut Gov spending to the poor of course and wow give more tax breaks to the top 1% and the Corps they own and Business.

    The question is is the rank file average American able to figure out who is for them and who is for the top 1%? Clearly undereducatied whilte males fail that test as they make up the Core of DT voters and GOP voters. That too is a fact. the more educated white males are not for DT so clearly education does help some. If the GOP in the house have their way and start to reduce Gov spending especially in the social areas we can expect at the least a recession which will indeed drop the market. If that happens they will try to find a Demo to blame for it as they always do and those on this mb who lose their assets will point fingers at anyone but their beloved GOP party. The poor can take lossing a lot better than the top 10% of Americans so the good news that those that vote for DT will cut their own throat and continue to hand the GOP the knife as they simply do not want to believe in that top 1% or one day they will or their kids and they are too good to vote for the party of the poor.
    That they just can not do even the poor white male takes comfort that while poor and working a low paying job he is NOT ONE OF THEM of a different color than him. Racism breeds being easy to be used by the leash holders.

  • Well All you right wingers sure are right the Demo and President Obama has really done a terrible job with the eco. The S&P at all time highs and the Dow again above 18,000. That means that US business are making lots of money and the eco has grown a lot since 2008 GOP lead disaster of an eco. Poor Mr. I am always wise and right Mr. BS is still looking fort that 5,000 dow that he just knew Obama would bring. The Job market is growing as unemployment has went down as US business is doing wonderful if they were not making money and growing the Dow and S&P would be headed back to the good old days of the GOP eco ideas of trickle down eco.

    If the Dow and S&P and employment numbers were not so good the GOP or what DT passes for these days would be howling about how bad things are but they can't howl to load in a S&P and Dow at these levels now can they? If its the eco stupid then the GOP is in real trouble because the health of the business and Corp America which are the job creators of American jobs is doing very well. 8 years under Obama and the the Demo's have made the K brothers a lot richer than what they had when the GOP train left town. Maybe that is one reason why they are not giving to DT? It is the eco stupid and it is doing pretty good right now

  • rogere1946 rogere1946 Jul 11, 2016 3:30 PM Flag

    horse rear end I never said that so many fatherless homes is good or is not a problem. I did say that you jumping on this women who you do not know and saying she was a bad mother which you did do when you implied that she was endangering her kids and could not protect them and IF a Father would of been around it would not of happened. You do not know any of that yet you jump on on the fact that no father was with her. You do not know who the father is of one or all those kids or if he was at work or not but you assume the worse.

    The article pointed the facts that black fathers are actully more involved in their kids lives when living apart from them than are whites fathers. That surprised me but does not speak well for any man that will abandon his kids regardless of color they may be.

  • rogere1946 by rogere1946 Jul 11, 2016 3:23 PM Flag

    NAT has said that they will not issue stock to pay for the new ship coming into their fleet And to expect more revenue as a result. Same should apply to FRO unless they issue more stock.

    NAT is a better ran company IMHO and has a better balance sheet that FRO but the margin for revenue and profit is better on VLCC than Suez so if NAT is going to make more revenue so too should FRO.

    Moving up off of lows and rates for VLCC still in mid 30"s. Suez in mid 20"s.

  • rogere1946 rogere1946 Jul 11, 2016 3:17 PM Flag

    The article is full of lies as well.

    Here is one. #5. Blacks are more likely to kill cops than be killed by cops. This is according to FBI data, which also found that 40 percent of cop killers are black. According to MacDonald, the police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black than a cop killing an unarmed black person.

    Here is the TRUTH The 27 felonious deaths occurred in 16 states. The number of officers killed as a result of criminal acts in 2013 decreased by 22 when compared with the 49 officers who were feloniously killed in 2012. The five- and 10-year comparisons show a decrease of 21 felonious deaths compared with the 2009 figure (48 officers) and a decrease of 30 deaths compared with 2004 data (57 officers).

    Only an Liar or idiot would try to say that less than 27 black males were killed by Police but this article says just that.

    It also says more whites and hispanics are killed by police than blacks but fails to point out the % of those who were unarmed or the fact that there is a lot more white and hispanics than blacks.

    It does admit that the ration is seven times more unarmed black men die by being shot by police than police shoot unarmed white men. Then they show several examples that they use to try to do away with an admitted 7-1 ratio. Even if half of the killings of unarmed black men was due to accidents or them "trying" to get a weapon as stated by the cops who did the killing that would still be over 3-1 ratio of unarmed black men being killed compared to white men and some of those white men surely were by accident or trying to get a weapon or whatever or do only unarmed black males do that?

    WSJ needs to look at the lies they print or maybe they are owned by Merdock also?

  • rogere1946 rogere1946 Jul 11, 2016 2:37 PM Flag

    the horses rear end states a widly believed false hood. The Truth is different
    Black Fathers Aren’t Involved In Their Children’s Lives Recent data published by the Center for Disease Control reveal that African-American fathers spend more time in their children’s day-to-day lives than dads from other racial groups, defying stereotypes about black fatherhood. The Pew Research Center has found similar evidence that black dads don’t differ from white dads in any significant way, and that there isn’t the expected disparity found in so many other reports. Although black fathers are more likely to live in separate households, Pew estimates that 67 percent of black dads who don’t live with their kids see them at least once a month, compared to 59 percent of white dads and just 32 percent of Hispanic dads.

    So the horse's talking rear end thinks if a father had been in the home then he would of allowed those kids to go to a peaceful demonstration? Democracy at work. Mr. BS always ask if we are ready for Demcracy well protesting and marching has been a key part of Democracy every where it has corrected wrongs or like in China to move a communist country towards more Democracy. Taking kids to a protest is letting them get involved in Democratic process and it was not a school night. How many "kids" have benefited from being involved in the Freedom Marches of the 60;s and the protest against the Wars?

    You just do not like this one because you do not like what it stands for.

  • Reply to

    Off to volunteer for Convoy of Hope tomorrow

    by keembodakine Jul 9, 2016 3:48 AM
    rogere1946 rogere1946 Jul 11, 2016 2:32 PM Flag

    Well glad to know that the grump has finally put me on ignore as I was trying of trying to correct all his lies and misstatements. Here the man who refused to say JESUS IS LORD quotes scripture just like the devil did. Nothing new there he always quotes it wrong and still refuses to say Jesus is Lord.

    Another coward who has ran away and hide after getting his tail kicked over and over again for spreading lies and false information. BHD is his hero lol.

  • rogere1946 rogere1946 Jul 11, 2016 2:21 PM Flag

    Hey horses rear end want some FACTS?

  • Reply to

    george soros

    by big_hairy_diggler Jul 11, 2016 1:48 PM
    rogere1946 rogere1946 Jul 11, 2016 2:15 PM Flag

    diggler maybe unlike you soros does think black life matters. Explain how giving money to BLM is promoting anarchy? How does anyone control anarchy? Do you even understand what the word means?

    Better get back to your cage feeding time at the zoo.

  • rogere1946 rogere1946 Jul 11, 2016 12:35 PM Flag

    grump many of them were shot down by white men. We do not know what the country would be like today if Lincoln had not been murdered but he was nor can we say what difference would be in the black community if MLK had not been murdered or other black leaders who preached peace and came from a strong Christian faith.

    A huge % of blacks do work and do not have criminal records and do not father or carry kids out of wedlock but it seems that some on this now you join this group like to point out the ones that do not act the way you think they should. What does the presence of a husband have to with anything? You know about the women and her life yet you want to introduce the 5 kids and no husband card then you accuse others of being a racist. Nice try smooth as you always are but not that much different from your brothers rje,diggler and suggp you just think you are different from them you are not.

    A lone gun man does not represent any movement or race of people unless your saying that the man who killed MLK was one of your clan brothers? It was a peaceful law abiding protest in Dallas untill one shooter arrived and started killing. He was not BLM or a community leader nor did they have anything to with the guy the only thing they had in common was skin color which you seem to be hung up on and the fact that he cared
    about the police shooting blacks and did something terrible and harmful to that movement just as those who kill abortion doctors who are white do not represent Jesus or other white Christians. Jesus has not failed nor has other Christians the failure is with the person who does the killing. White or back they should not be held up as REPRESENTATIVE of a group of people who would act and do the same thing.

    Maybe you think the "PREACHERS" have been to opportunistic instead of being comp;etent and they are to blame for the killing of abortion doctors by a "Christian" ? Your stereotyping the question is WHY?

  • rogere1946 rogere1946 Jul 11, 2016 10:38 AM Flag

    daily thank you for your gossip which is like homosexuality an abomination before God. Please in the name of Jesus Christ who you claim to follow drop your rock.

  • Reply to

    A post from Jan Morgan to police officers

    by dailybread4316 Jul 8, 2016 11:18 PM
    rogere1946 rogere1946 Jul 11, 2016 10:37 AM Flag

    diggler MLK incited a whole nation with his peaceful protest. They brought shame and change to the South
    who were indeed guilty as charged of racism and racism protected and inforced by the police who not only believed in it but also "followed orders" of those in charge just as the Nazi had done to Germany. There was no incitement against Hitler and the wrongs he was doing. How did that work out for Germany and the World?

    300 unarmed black men shoot and killed by police and NONE were charged with ANYTHING. Black lives and white lives both matter and a police office is to enforce the law not create the law as he wants it to be.
    You are all over HC for having a server and being a Liar but it seems the idea that a cop white or black can kill unarmed men of color is just fine with you.

    What incited the guy in Dallas was not the Dallas PD but the killings of two black men in la and Minn. He was as wrong to do what he did as any cop is wrong to kill anyone when they do not have too.
    rje a racist brother of yours seems to suggust that someone unemployed has less right to live than one that works or a drug addict life is not protected by law as much as yours or mine. A Police officer should know and understand that a man's color, job or lack of job or criminal record or addition does not control or influence the actions of the police. The law is supposed to be color blind and blind to working or not, addicted or not and criminal history or not. To kill a person when you do not have to in the line of duty is wrong regardless of who or what or why. The shooting is by facts of the situation either a good shooting or illegal action. Cops are trained to understand this and paid to do their job based on their training.

    I personally knew 4 cops who killed when they should not of done so and one who tried but missed. None of them was because racism. All were caused by emotion and getting EXCITED and failure to follow training. None were indicted.

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