dakine do you know any man alive that could with a women like chug? Now she and her time to mention husband ( poor soul) has a foundation lol. So does DT but so far we have not heard one thing that the DT foundation does. We know the million of lives saved by the Clinton foundation but all I know DT has done is buy a picture of himself and get others to give money then what is it spent for? Maybe same thing that chug claims. All the idle time that Chug spends on this board she might instead spend it with those women she claims to be helping and all you have to see all her post and arguments with anyone who dares to disagree with "her" and know that she rarely spends anytime for anything away from keyboard of which I am sure her husband is glad lol. Just once I would like to see a so called Liberal politician get up and go over the list of things Liberals have done and still fight to do. 40% of Americans are so selfish they hate Liberals because the good things for human being they do "MIGHT" cost them a buck or two in tax dollars. While they get their Liberal socialist SS checks and use their Liberal and socialist Medicare and the ones that actually worked as a W-2 earner was protected by LIBERAL Labor laws that made employees pay for overtime and keeping them from forcing more than 40hr work week without pay. I am proud to be a Liberal I just wish Liberal politicians would stop dodging who they are and start letting the undereducated idiots know who has been protecting them from the abuse of money and big business. The very air we believe and water we drink is because of Gov. regs. Stupid people may one day get their wish and see the US become the same as the 3rd world countries were "conservative" people with money and power do nothing for anyone but themselves and if DT wins that will be the beginning of the judgment on this country.
chug your not even honest enough to admit what you are. Post after post of yours is full fiction, lies and conservative thinking. Your not an independent. I am a Liberal and proud of it. Because the things Liberals did in the past they still fight for today. Labor rights, women rights ( not just abortion) Homosexual rights or minority rights both the same actually. Yes I am against homosexual marriage but I for Homosexuals getting the same rights as other human beings because they are merely sinners like everyone you being a non believer don't get and I do not expect you to. Liberals push for min wage increases, reforming wall street to make it once again a place to raise capital and not a gambling place rigged by and for big money. One set of rules for all. Liberals were for and continue to be environmental rights. That is why you conservatives call them tree huggers and animal lovers and yes you show how silly you are by saying what any fool with eyes can see that the earth has been over the last 150 getting hotter. Being 70 I have seen Oct change from a "cool" month to one where I wear T shirts and shorts. Winter starts now in late Nov and last through March and "cool" April. But you know it all as usual wrong of course. I have been to glacier Nat. Park have you? They have pictures of the glaciers showing them 100 years ago and only a blind person could not see the retreat and some gone all the way. But you say No? Go argue with the moon you and I are done girlie your not worth the effort and you are a Conservative to the core and I doubt ever voted Demo. Go tell others how smart you and how much money you make if they want to believe a sick person like you they should love DT he thinks the way you do. Good bye and I hope one day you return to sane mind but we are done.
chug here are some facts for you . Liberals were against slavery, Liberals were for women voting rights, Liberals were for labor laws, Liberals were for clean air and water laws, Liberals created the min wage, Liberals fought Jim Crow laws, Liberals passed every work safety laws on the books. Conservatives like you were against each and every one of these things. Folks who think business will "DO THE RIGHT THING" are ignorant of history they have never done the right thing until made too and then they lie and hide the truth about what they do. They dump steel into the US market place and mislabel it. The price fix on food, They cheat royalty holders on oil royalty money. All done by Big US business and all against the laws LIBERALS passed and conservatives fought against as useless regulations. Liberals made the coal companies stop killing their miners Conservatives were against such laws. Fracking is a proven cause of man made earth quakes yet still the cry is drill baby drill from conservatives. Putting waste into the ground causes not only earth quakes but also pollutes the water of people who need that water to live.
Both parties want power as that is what politics is all about. It is what they do with the power once they have it that counts. Liberals passed SS and Medicare and conservatives fought it. Liberals passed Medicaid to keep the poor from dying and conservatives fought it. Liberals' passed food stamps that keep children alive and conservatives fought it. Do not get insulted about partial birth abortion and then want to let a poor child forced into the world die from lack of food. Better to kill them fast than to let them starve but hey that cost tax money to keep them alive which again Liberals are for and conservatives are against. Climate change is being pushed by Liberals and 98% of the scientist in that field while conservatives want to protect business instead. Yes I am a LIberal on ALL issues that I listed and proud of it
scs Let me inform you of a few things since you clearly do not understand my position on this election. I am not voting so I have no candidate. Both of them are poor choices. DT because of his total lack of character, his lack of growing up and learning how to play well with others and his ego which will cause him not to take advise from anyone. If you think he was told to say he would not accept the results of the election by all those around him then you are as silly as your boy DT.
I have said and continues to say I am against abortion unless it is for rape or incest or the life of the mother is involved and even then abortion should be one of the options open to a women. Unlike you conservatives I support Gov money to pay for the treatment of mother and unborn and understand that cost money ie taxes, I also support money for health care after birth for mother and child as well again tax dollars involved. You can not want to force over a million births a year and not step up and pay for the medical cost of the mother and child when the mother has no money. That is not what Jesus would do now is it? I have forgiven DT for his behavior but that does not mean he does not have to pay a price for his actions. Forgiveness is one thing paying the cost of your sin is another. God at times allows no cost but DT got caught his sin is public and the price is public as well just as BC was. BC should of resigned and DT is unfit to be the GOP guy. He became that when he admitted he was a serial adulterer. The GOP primary voters have cost their party the election by accepting and wanting him as their guy. Morals and character does count.
After watching the debate last night I am certain that anyone who votes for DT is risking having a loose cannon hand on the Nuke button. He approaches dealing with our NATO allies as if it was merely a business showing again how unfit he is to serve. Maybe punishment is coming regardless who wins? We have earned it by selfishness.
More states are controlled by the GOP Party than are by Demo's so do you actually think they will be any "stealing the election" by folks in GOP states? You bad losser are going to have to learn to live with 4 more years of Demo rule from oval office it appears. Or are you going to grab your guns and go into the streets lol.
What a shameless bunch of crybabies, whinners and sore lossers white males seem to be and yes white females as well at least the men and women who are white and have not gone past the 12th grade if they made it that for. What a crowd to hang with.
scs a 59 year old is not a boy as his wife seems to think. Yes I call that tape sex tape that is being nice most call it sexual assault talk by two men with DT bragging about sexual assaulting women. I do not watch that sick O Howard Stern surprised you do. The fact that DT has been on his show and talks about sex is not something that is very presidental but hey he is the guy that will appoint SC judges. The only reason that Lewinsky was a big deal was indeed BC DNA on that dress. That is called EVIDENCE something that no other BC women accuser had a drop of ( pun intended) Nor so far do I see any from the women on DT.
Actually Lewinsky never "outed" BC that I remember. You are right I would not of believed her without EVIDENC since under our law even DT or BC are both innocence until proven guilty or have you forgotten?
Evidence does exist that DT talks about sexual assault, brags about trying to seduce a married women and is a self admitted adultery practicer so your boy has zero character or morals. And if you think he has changed since "finding Jesus" as Dr. Dobson wants to sell DT to Christians then you sure do not have the gift of discernment. He never said he was sorry for being an adultery person or ask for forgiveness of his sex tape or for trying to take a married women to bed. Some humility and apology and asking for forgiveness would be what a believer would know how to do. DT needs to watch Jimmy Swaggart's tape on how to admit sin and ask forgiveness. And yes I forgave Jimmy Swaggart as I think I was suppose to do. DT has not asked for that has he?
chug wrong again if you even bother to check it was filed in Fed court and due for hearing in Dec. But so what the question was not what was dismissed or not but what was alleged before he ran for office and that was two cases so eat it sister your wrong again. Your opinion of the reason or facts of the Hart Case is just your opinion and is based not on facts. Again the facts are all that happened before he ran which you said NO CASES had be filed. His ex wife indeed said that the did not rape her but she never said what she decribed which I would call rape did not occurr I guess she likes millions of dollars as her settlement and they do have kids together. But again she said it before the guy ran. You really need to do fact checks before you make a fool out of yourself again. DT did in fact have a women problem long before he ran. Given that he is an admitted adultery player and has talked about his conquest on Howard Stern for one. But I guess he is your kind of guy. I do hope your " hot" or DT will not waste his time with a non "hot" women.
chug I have to admit it I am so enjoying your pain of lossing this election. Yea the SC will be liberal and I hope they do more than just keep Roe alive in fact I disagree with that decision totally but I do look forward to more needed Gov regs to stop big business from destroying the water and air of our country and who knows maybe reverse the big money into politics. Gun Control might be interesting but I do not see doing away with it and the court has all ready said that gun control was legal so only needs to expand controls of ownership to make gun shows and private sells illegal without checks. End assault weapons sales and other weapons of war. oh that got a lot of goats lol.
A woman voting for DT you and Chug should do the kiss and make up thing since you both like a man that gropes women. As big and important as you and chug think you are who knows maybe DT will reach out and touch you both lol for advise I mean.
dakine we have a whole new level of insanity on this board with all the big traders telling each other how much money they have made and how much the other has lost. No wonder they like DT. You forgot I know more about ISIS than the Generals do or just in the last debate he showed his totally ignorance of the war against ISIS when he said why tell them about attacking Mussel as if it was ever a secret or how do you put thousands of men tanks and air forces together of the coalation and keep it a secret? The man is dangerous and him with Nuke keys would be worse than Barry Goldwater ever would of been. His own words and 9 women saying he was a bad boy (Boy talk is what his wifeie called it) and he goes nuts. Putin and the N. Koreans will yank his string but what they better understand is DT does not act like a normal human being when he gets yanked he attacks. N. Korea and China and Russia have gotten use to playing the game with showman ship and push then retreat when it gets to risky to continue but with DT in the office he only knows one way and that is attack attack and attack some more. It could get really nasty fast but thankfully I think he has destroyed himself enough that he cant win. If you want a Nuke war on the table vote DT. HT used them but we were the only country that had them. Things have changed.
chug thanks for proving once and for all that you are a nut job. How you going to feel loser when HC beats the dog #$%$ out of your man and your party oh wait Trump has done more harm to the GOP than HC has and he is still at war with the speaker of the house and is going to cost them Senate and house seats. Then I get to listen to you bunch of wimps cry for 4 more years like the children you all have become. Enjoy the 4 years of HC you helped make it happen.
suggp you sure have the right to vote for who ever you want however your stated reasons are as phony as DT claim that Mexico will pay for a wall. HC was talking about open trade border with Mexico and Canada which we have. That does not mean drugs and illegals are to be allowed to pass and not tried to be stopped.
HC is for some kind of immigration law which deals with the reality of people who have lived illegally in the USA for years and have families who have families. DT said he wants to kick them all out and depending on which speech he gives says kick out US born kids of illegals which is against Federal Law and I doubt that even majority of GOP support doing that. You excuse the many BK of DT yet hold up HC for following the law to defend an accused rapist and you do not know the facts of the case but yet you assume she did something wrong while it was the judge who agreed that she had a correct point of law and ruled in her favor.
Of the over 60,000 emails they were 8 that was sent to HC that was classified. 8 out of 60,000 emails. She received them improperly marked as the FBI director has testified. The violation was having classified documents on her email server which was an not approved storage for classified documents. It was not her intent to break the law is what the FBI determinded just as I had said from the start. When intent is not proved it becomes a matter of "SHOULD" the person know that the documents were classified or not. She never told anyone to send her classified and since only 8 was found on her server out of over 60,000 it is clear that all the rest of the classified documents she got and sent as Sec. of State was done on the proper Gov email system. 8 were sent to her out of how many? Were they marked correctly as required? NO they were not. Was it HC intent to get them and keep them? NO according to the FBI investigation. You will vote for a adultery serial man which is a character flaw. No high horse on that.
scs it was DT sex tape that started all this and his response was to blast away at BC and HC which caused so far 9 women to come forward. HC did not go after DT on what goes on in his marriage even though he is an admitted adultery serial committer which last time I checked is a sin. His current wife knew this before she married the guy. You assume that HC knew about BC affairs and not just a wife who was fooled. DT putting those 4 women on TV then having them setting with his family started what was the the finger pointing and that from a guy who cheated on two wives at least and if you believe the tape was trying to cheat on number 3 with yet a married women. I know you do not defend this type of behavior and you know it to be sin. But he is a right winger and as Franklin Graham said on CNN yesterday "ITS ALL ABOUT THE SC". At least Franklin tells the truth on why he is going to vote for Trump. He also refused to say HC was being untruthful since he said he has not talked with her in a long time but she is a nice person according to Franklin. I remind you that only the Lewinsky affair was proven the rest are the same as DT unsubstantiated allegations which you choose to believe while not believing the ones against DT.
Jane Doe vs DT & Jeffery E. Epstein Fed court, you mention Jill Harth and said it was not sexual in nature wrong "And Ivana isn’t the only one. Jill Harth accused Donald Trump of sexual assault, and she has also taken her allegations to federal court. Ms. Harth’s lawsuit told the frightening story of Trump’s forcing her into his daughter Ivanka’s bedroom, holding her there against her will, and molesting her while she protested. Ms. Harth sued back in 1997, but the lawsuit was quickly drooped. However, Harth has reaffirmed her story recently in a Twitter war with Trump.Trump also denied her charges" "In a deposition in their 1992 divorce, Ivana Trump, Trump’s first wife, described a horrific scene in which Trump violently forced her to have sex with him. " That was in a divorce action so at least 3 times before he ran for president he was mention in a court case or the subject of a court being filed for sexual acts alleged. I never said he had criminal cases against him as it is harder to prove a criminal case than civil as I am sure you know and yes money is involved in all three cases but so was money the issue in Paula Jones case against BC. As I said three times in court or filing for court DT has been named as sexual violator of women and one is active in Federal court now.
chug once again your wrong. There is a law suit against DT that was before all these women came out. The truth is which you refuse to say is that even if DT was all these women claim you would still vote for him. I do not find the women problem to be the thing that bothers me it is how he reacted to them. I can see him throwing a child like fit at Nato members or Putin. Children should not have the Nuke codes.
40% of American's will vote for DT even if he is proven to be guilty of what those women are claiming. Do I believe them? Not all of them no. That is not the point. I see DT reactions to those accusing him. He is a man gone crazy. He is blaming the media, the clinton's, a conspiracy of both and of course the women. He responds by "going the nuke response (his words) HELLO folks is this how he is going to react to our allies when they do not something DT does not like or agree with? Nato is against me. Still you will vote for the guy and give such a person clearly out of control the Nuke keys. I do not think even Putin is that crazy or the nut job in N. Korea for that matter as he at least understand he would lose. DT does not seem to care about lossing only striking back.
Now this may make you happy when it is the Clinton's and the media he is striking out at but even a sane person should really be worried about the temperament of such a man as leader of the most powerful nation in the world.
I do not believe DT will get over 41% of the vote and I can only hope that HC gets at least 41.1 and wins the electoral college number. I live in Tex so going to vote is a waste of time but if I lived in a sane state where it would matter I would now go vote for HC. Not because I like her or some of her policies but simply because DT is a loose cannon that is not grown up and we can not give control of our Nukes to person who is at heart a spoiled child.
suggp I know a lot of crooked stuff goes on in for buy political system and always has throughout all the history of the country and it most likely is better today than when US Grant was president but it will remain a problem as long as we have paid by candidate elections at all levels of Gov. Even judges are bought by the cost of running for office. However all that said some things are just crooked at the crop level such as the price of oil and price fixing in the food industries and steel companies. The banks join that crowd but they get a lot of cover from Congress as does all of them but some schemes such as the ones GS, Wells fargo, Chase and the rest used were all in house cheating. I hate to tell you this and you will not agree or like it but the GOP is owned by business almost to the man and women and half the demo's are as well as it cost money and lots of it to win. The only way to stop this stuff in politics is to take the money out of it and the "conservatives" on the SC instead broaden the problem by saying money is free speech. That assures no change in our current system. It will take a radical person such as Sanders to attack this and frankly he would not of got it done only talked about it and try and fail since members of the Senate and house are owned. We are screwed when you get down to it just a matter of who you want doing it to you. Most see illegals and free loaders on well fare as their targets and not the big Business interest and the GOP gets the cover it needs from those that vote by emotion against the poor and continue to support those that protect the big corrupts of Gov. If you think illegals and free loaders cost you more money than the rich crooks then continue to vote for those that you now do. You hated the reform Wall Street crowd but support DT that claims he does as well. Total disconnect. Pick your enemies better if you want improvements.
chug has proven herself to be one of deplorable deluted folks who follow the Trump man. SCS you take teaching from her if you want but clearly the spirit she follows is demonic.
chug lets see we have chugmy the two dr. degrees from Harvard, worlds greatest authourity on how to trade stock, the head shrink now the two bit gossip that she is. Who you going believe chugmy or the facts? hummmm want the truth on the Buffet marriage and not the chug Lie or delusion of which she lives in.
" In 2006, on his 76th birthday, Buffett married his longtime companion, Astrid Menks, who was then 60 years old—she had lived with him since his wife's departure to San Francisco in 1977. Susan had arranged for the two to meet before she left Omaha to pursue her singing career. All three were close and Christmas cards to friends were signed "Warren, Susie and Astrid". Susan briefly discussed this relationship in an interview on the Charlie Rose Show shortly before her death, in a rare glimpse into Buffett's personal life.
Not usual I grant you but not the story that chug would have you suckers who believe anything this sick person has to post but hey it is boring in the "home" for the deluted. Look up the truth for your lazy selves or belive the lies chug and Trump throw out and oh how you right wingers want to believe each other.