scs I know and RAils I know but you are a Johnny come lately blow heart just like your boy DT. Rails and scs are both right wingers as are you and I have engaged them both in post and they are two different breeds of right wingers while you are waste of time.
scs I bet you were for the lady who was elected to discharge the duties of her office not issuing same sex marriage license because you agree with her being against same sex marriage. She took an oath of office and then refused to follow the law she should of been fired or removed from office or put in jail or done the right thing and quit. In Texas an employer can fire any worker for whatever reason as long as no Federal Law is broken since Texas politician's protect employer's and owners and screw employees. So it would depend on the contract that Mr. Jones has on a player. He lets wife beaters and dope heads play for "America's Team" but on not standing for the pledge he draws the line? What a phony he is. If you daughter was married to one of America's Team players and he was a drug using drunk and wife beater my guess is that would bother you more than his seating down for the pledge. Setting or standing do not make you a better citizen than the one beside you as the right of citizenship is given at birth if born in the USA. You do not have to stand and in fact can refuse to fight for your country. Just Think a 3 time draft dodger is running for president under the Lies that he can restore its greatness when he did not want to defend her. Spare me the flag waving you DT voters are voting for a draft dodging coward who now waves a flag and stands for the pledge. Any phony can do that as he shows. He has never been to war zone unlike HC and never even came close to risking his life in any kind of service to His country. You right wingers would goose step for anyone who has you fooled. How sad he is your Flag bearer. A no good for nothing draft dodging coward is now your hero. lol.
As team owner Mr. Jones can do as long as the NFL does not tell him he can not. The thing about our form of Gov is that with freedom comes the right to be stupid or not believe in God or Not stand for pledge or even be the color of choice or the religion of choice. That is what our country is all about. Those who love their rights to carry a gun are often times the same ones not wanting to give a Muslim their right to be a Muslim or not to stand for pledge or freedom of speech if that speech is not what they want to hear. The real question from a Nation point of view is does that make us stronger or weaker as a people? The US is a Democratic Republic with a Const. and amendments that lay out the rights of all. The Kingdom of God is ran by a loving King but He is the King. I like the Kingdome best of all as with God mercy is more important than justice and forgive more importance than rights and loving those different from you or even your enemies is more important than being right. In the USA it seems many want their rights but want to deny others the same rights while in the Kingdom of God He alone decides who and when and how He will see those of his Kingdom and thanks be to the Lord Jesus Christ that God has said he will look through the blood of His Son when he looks at us. That is worth standing up for and jumping up and down but above all bowing a knee to to and saying thank you Father. The rest is just of the way of the world a mere distraction in the vapor called life.
daily you are indeed hopeless when it comes to accepting facts. The white water investigation was yet another of the GOP failed attempts to "get the Clinton's" It was conducted by a GOP house committee and Mr. Comey was a GOP attorney for the majority (GOP) and you think he single handedly got the Clinton's off? your hate for them is clear. You Want them guilty so bad that your mind goes to very dangerous and evil places. The true facts are that Ken Star was special pros. have you forgotten that? Mr.Starr found nothing wrong in white water at all. From the start it was clear that the Clinton's LOST money on the land deal not make money and Star and the GOP committee's wasted millions of dollars until a BJ was discovered. Now if you want to call BC wrong for that I agree with you. But Mrs C did exactly what the word of God said to do. Forgive and stay married. Yet you see her doing so any reason other than her faith which you believe she can not have because she is a sinner and disagrees with you on several issues which to you makes it ok to hate her and attack her and anyone who does not join your attacks as you foolishly do with Mr. Comey. Why not Ken Star was in on it? He not Comey had the lead and was the GOP favorite charge pony and he let go of white water because their was never anything there. You will not even admit that you hate the Clinton's since you know that your not suppose to do but it is clear to anyone who can read you do. I understand that desire to hate instead of love and to smash the person back who hits and to shoot the thief instead of giving them more and I too hate to be made to walk an extra mile. I fail almost daily in one way or the other in all those things but I know I am wrong when I do. While you seem to think as long as it is the Clinton's you attack you are God's little servant. Well your not you are breaking the teachings of Jesus who said clearly to love your enemies and do good by them. Talk to your pastor please
chugmy if you think anyone on this board believes a word of what you say you have done with your stock purchases and sales you are truly delusional. For an adult your are worse than a child and that I suppose why your a DT child voter lol. Tell us ole smart guy do you think DT will stop illegals from coming into the country with his billions of dollars wall or do you believe Mexico will pay for it? Do you think he will stop all Muslim's from entering the country? (only until vetted even?) Do you think he is telling the truth about his Foundation and his taxes and will disclose both? Do you think he knows more than the generals about ISIS oh wait he changed his mind on that like Obama place of birth now he wants the generals to tell him what to do or does he? I don't blame a DT support from talking about anything but what their guys stands for and his personal doctor and dr. Oz say he is OK no mention of being 70 and over weight which he clearly is.
Well lets hope you find something that the other DT supporters on this will enjoy from you as they are by now sick of your self serving I am a great stock picker which you have proven to not be. Maybe you were born in Kenya with Obama lol.
lake glad I at least got you to forget the idea of man coming from even the lower forms of an ape. Now search again God idea of man and who he was created to be and how the fall changed all that to what passes for man today with free will to serve himself with hate or fear toward others of his kind with selfishness driving him instead of what God had planed. Jesus says we MUST BE BORN again. Fallen man cannot please God nor enter the Kingdom of God. Keep looking and congrats on figuring out that no ape could be held responsible for me.
chugmy if you post on other boards as much as you do this one anyone can see that as a trader it must interfere with watching what is your "job" to watch. Sorry your job is that boring I suggest you find a job that you enjoy and real people you can talk with instead of unknown strangers on this board who you enjoy insulting but hey maybe that it is the way you roll. Good luck with that and I do hope you do not take that home to wife and kids as it is very bad way to roll.
chugmy I am so glad your for Trump. If both you and Lake were for HC I might vote for Trump. Clearly you have no job, no interest in life and love to spend your time talking to yourself on this board. Boring
suggp I do not plan to vote for HC and I do not support all of her ideas or embrace all of her values. So again you are wrong. If you believe that DT will slow the flow of drugs, stop or slow the flow of illegals, both by securing our border and send some kind of message to Washington and lower your taxes then you have shown perfectly how the undereducated white male thinks. DT is a national disgrace but sadly so is 25% of the people who will vote for him. About 15% will vote for him because they are strong against adoration that gets him up to 40%. To get over the hump he needs those who hate or dislike HC more than they care about who they are voting for. No one thinks DT has the experience to be president except of course for stupid white males who think being white and male is all you need. DT made a fool out of those by now admitting that he LIED about having FACTS about Obama being born out of the country while some of those ignorant white males still believe that. His buddy Putin is showing daily what a great leader he is and that is why most of the men in the military high ranks and intelligence community favor HC over DT. Not because they like HC but because they realize just how stupid DT can be and how bull headed and will not take advise. Perhaps the best quality a President can have is the ability to pick people around them who they trust and value as advisors. GH Bush picked well and GW Bush did not. Both listened to the advisors. DT will pick yes men and not listen and that is what makes him dangerous. He attacks people like the fed chairman because he believes it is good for his campaign or is so ill informed that he actually believes the Fed chairman is political. DT own "team" of eco advisors disagree with him on that issue but that did not change DT thinking. He is the picture you would point to for meaning of " loose cannon". If that is what you want as your president then vote away.
scs I think the price of FRO fairly represents where they are at this time. Rates have been low for a while now killing the "hope" of run away gains and putting all those new builds to work at big gains. Do not understand why the boys that run these company's didn't see this coming but All seem to just go ahead business as usual so here we are. I see next quarter being "worse" in revenue and profit than this one was and another dip in dividend is very possible but I also see the "hope" that history will repeat and that rates will start within the month of Oct to move up. IF big IF this happens then FRO should rise up with them regardless of the bad quarter as folks eyes will be on the rates and the next quarter. This stock is a heavy commodity type stock. As demand goes up ( rates) so does the stock. Sadly the books of FRO has not improved that much as a serious down turn in rates would put BK right back on the screen for them and most. They all just had to have new ships just could not work on debt so now to make that a good decision they need higher rates or once again each and every high paid CEO would of once again failed their stockholders. What else is new.
As far as my position goes in FRO I saw the drop coming as I posted. I think we have seen the worse and the chance to cover has passed not saying it will not go down again but if you play shorts and did not cash in with a cover lately you missed a chance to reload. A retreat before the rates go up is within the cards. If you held during the dip down into mid 6 you missed your chance is my thinking. I fought rami and his shorting during lots better times than this and saw this stock played like a fiddle by the big boys so value and rates and book value can be and has been in the past thrown out the window so who knows what they will do with FRO but looking toward the months of higher rates being closer to be short now takes guts. Or stupidity but look how many like DT so stupidity can be found.
Sept 16 was a big day up for FRO. Now the real question is does the price before or now show more the true value of FRO? I have yet to see anyone say FRO will lose money this next quarter so the question is how much will they make. For FRO that means to the value of the stock price how much dividend will they pay? They "padded" on the first quarter when they paid .40 cents and padded this quarter when they paid .20 cents. So will they pad again and pay 15 cents or 10 cents next quarter? If rates start to move up so will the price of stock as it has in the past. So what should drag it down? Lower rates and lower dividend payment. So far the rates are remaining in the profit area. Given the LT contracts they are above the spot rate already for this quarter and will remain above the rates in the 4th quarter as well if the rates stay low.
Below 6 bucks. I do not believe so unless rates totally fall apart and given production levels and demand levels for oil how likely is that? Lets say they pay 15 cents next quarter which they should be able to do that will be 8% at today price of 7.15. Not the great rate we have seen in past but well about CD and bonds and most dividends. Time will tell as will rates.
DT is like the Fonzie he just can't stomach to say he was wrong. I will give Alies and Kelly and the other guy credit for putting DT on a short leash and making him play better.
Can you imagine what these guys on the right would be saying about a democrat that refused to release his tax returns. Was a draft dodger for medical reason and now refuses to release his medical records except on Dr. Oz who is nothing but a diet pill salesman and under DT no Muslim program Oz would not of be allowed into the country lol. The other DT doctor DT family doctor shows that DT is fearless about his health at least as the guy is scary at best. HC has released years of tax returns DT NONE. HC has release twice as info about her medical records as DT. DT now admits he had no proof about President being born outside of US none at all so he LIED about that. He is a three time 4 F draft dodger who now claims is in excellent health.
He knwns more than the generals do about ISIS and now is going to give them 30 days to come up with a plan that will win. His plan for SS is without any details. His plan on Min Wage is without details. His plan on how to get Mexico to pay for the wall is without a bit of truth again he lies and his plan to deport 10 million illegals is possible only in the mind of DT. The FED Chairman is playing politics and doing what Obama tells her to do as have been the other Fed board members. The FBI director and all the agents who worked on the HC case are corrupt. A Mexican Judge is a racist against him. The list just keeps coming. Latest poll taken in Texas shows DT has the support of 39% of voters HC 32 and the indep 12% with 17% refusing to say or admit who they are for. 59% are against the wall (that is a lot of GOP voters as well) and 51% thinks illegals bring more into the country to benefit it than they cost. That is huge for a red state like Tex. Still no yard signs for DT and other GOP candidates as well.
lake you never get tired of being wrong do you? But since you asked for enlightment I will share it with you. Of course God allows or puts all leaders into office. Some are picked by the devil and God uses them for his will as the word shows. So yes God wins election and controls by active or passive acts those in Gov upon this earth. No need to call yourself white trash Lakeed simply because you believe yourself and all others came from monkeys I forgive you. You don't know anybetter and are self deceived. And finally as you have been shown over and over again you are wrong on Christians caused more bloodshed over the last 2,000 years than others. WWI and WWII along make this wrong then add Korea and Viet Nam. But you never learn unlike well trained monkeys who can learn.
suggp ky has been ran by GOP for years now and coal jobs going away is no more than other jobs going away it is a sign of changing times due to Globalism (loved by GOP) or clean air and water (coal) danger to health ( nuke and coal) but what is now killing coal is price of oil and ng. Yes white people do have kids out of wedlock in Ky and are welfare just like blacks in Detroit and yes both should leave and go find jobs else where but they do not. What he says was beyond stupid it was treason. If a Demo would of said you be all over it and you should be. The guy should be impeached but he will not be. You think HC is a danger to the nation this guy is worse. But at least you said it was wrong and stupid more than his Christian buddies did.
How sad to see Jesus associated with such blood thirsty self righteous modern day Pharisee who think they have a right to kill for a earthly kingdom while they think they are in the Kingdom of God. Love your enemies never got through to them like hate #$%$'s did. The boy from Ky better be careful what he advocates as those who live by the sword die by it. If the blood starts to shed history shows how that works out and the US military will remain loyal to the nation unlike this guy and his deplorable buddies.
Check out the words of the Governor of Ky. He makes old Mitch and Paul look like good boys. This guy while speaking at some Christian conference actually said that if the liberal win again it may take the shedding of blood to stop them. Clearly they guy knows nothing of the teaching of Jesus but that does not stop the Christian right wing from embracing his blood appeal. He joins the ranks of deplorable people who vote GOP and in his case are GOP. This takes us back to the days of 1859 when the South promised blood if Lincoln I elected. Oh I doubt he has the stones to shed his own blood but by speaking out like this I am sure he can find some nut job to start the holy war that this nut job wants. His words and thinking is totally against the teaching of Jesus and shame on the so called Christian leaders who endorsed this guy with awards they too do not know Jesus teaching. Even without his so called Christian agenda his blood lust is un-American, undemocratic and deplorable and so is every one who defends this kind of talking. An elected Governor I have to admit even Texas Governors have not been that stupid and that covers a lot of ground. Deplorable and disgraceful to the core. God have mercy on his blood thirsty soul.
David Duke an any racist like him black white brown or yellow are deplorable human beings sorry that Pense can not bring himself to say it. How low politics have gone this time around. Hitler was deplorable and I hope Pense could say that and Duke follows the same mind set as Hitler you don't have to kill people to be deplorable.
dakine the reason for not as % of folks in WWII than say Viet Nam or our middle east wars is because it was seen as an illness. Please post the web site where you get your stats from? Is PTSD "over treated" today as compared to Viet Nam or WWII of course. Do all need the treatment that they get? I do not think so but they do not have a choice they HAVE to go to a shrink where that was not the case in WWII, Korea or Viet Nam.
To compare the dear John rate is a joke as the women were different then and the war was supported by all and yet it still happened. The strain of dealing with multi deployments is a different mess with the mind than going and having a date that it is over like Viet Nam and not many Draftees turned to lifers. Some did pull two tours in Viet Nam but few pulled three and if this thing continues the way it has 3 will be the norm.
We agree about how stupid the policy is but that has nothing to do with the military except they know it too which is harder to live with than WWII or Korea was more like Viet Nam a loss stupid war. We have enemies that are going to continue to push to see how we respond and we spend billions a year to stay ahead of them on fighters, ships and weapons and both parties will continue to do that. They are lots of stupid policies that both parties have signed on but that again has nothing to do with the responsibility that Vets are owed. I would be for drafting 65 and older folks you ready to go? We may not be able to be front line but lots of support jobs that could be done and the same for the unemployed give them a job and training in the military support combat arms guys. You do not need to raise taxes 50% as you like DT exaggerate but yes Vets and active military cost money. But to be without them you will find out how you like living in the Russian or Chinese eco. If you think world domination is not still in their minds you are kidding yourself.
Dr. Lakeed head the self admitted monkey man wanna be is crying about his family being called a monkey. Too bad lakehead if they were it was by you and your insistence that monkey blood runs in your veins and not by me. I believe that even you came from God creating man and not a monkey. But you however insist that you and all of mankind including your family are from monkeys. So that makes you the monkey uncle not me. If you can not stand the heat stay out of the kitchen. I would just love to here your idea of who is a good American lol. The truth is I served with several guys who had a choice of jail or army. One was a school teacher with a MS in biology who got caught with a roach clip in his car in Houston Tx. Another dated the sheriff's daughter and was framed on a drug charge to end the romance. Several were indeed sorry excuses of humanity who all would of benefited from had they went to jail. Sorry to disappoint you but no PTSD for me. Our current military being all volunteer does not put up with the alcoholism which was found mostly in lifers in Viet Nam or Drug use which was the draftees and they are required to be physically fit and the reason more today are being treated for PTSD than in Nam or WWII is because unlike what Patten thought PTSD and "shell sock" are real and doctors of course feel the need to throw drugs at any problem.
I do hope your family does not like you believe they come from monkeys and even if they do they are wrong.
dakine DT will increase the budget the GOP leadership will buck their conservative tea party boys and go with the demo's to increase spending since DT has said he WILL increase military spending and he WILL build a wall and Bush spent billions on fences and hiring more Federal law enforcement and DT will spend more than GW did and fail as well. Did you ever go to a war zone as a solder? If not then do not play down PTSD as a made up illness. The VA will be there for vets and I think the bills will go down not up as the WWII and Korean Vets are now dying off as are the Viet Nam vets which was a huge number and the military has been a lot smaller over the last 40 years. I get a retirement as do you and why you object to a vet who risked his life for this country I flat disagree with you on that. Their families suffer more than most in private business does with no SS benefits and no death benefits like SS gives or many Gov workers get if the bread winner dies or is killed on the job. They get a flag and not enough to pay for the funeral and only insurance if they paid for it themselves and who gives insurance to a combat arms employee? Don' t worry DT is a draft dodging coward who will screw the vets out of as much as he can as well as those on SS and those that need food stamps so he can give himself and his rich buddies cheaper taxes and build walls. Unlike you I talked to over a dozen "vets" who were getting OUT of the military and ALL of them were on drugs due to PTSD and all of them had done 2 or more tours in the middle east and had lost wives and kids for being gone too often and the ones that had not were getting OUT for that reason. The military has been abused to the max under Bush and Obama and Obama is wrong to reduce the number of boots available and think that cool techno weapons and special forces can get the job done. He like Bush or DT or HC have never served and do not realize that for on boot on the ground it takes 5 to supporting them.
All these flag wavers on here voting for a draft dodging coward that ran to daddy to get the rich kid deferment and he knows more than our generals about ISIS. What a big head this man has. America deserves to have him as president a perfect fit for the selfishness cry baby tax cryers out there. DT is going to increase the military budget lol and build a wall and hire more Fed Cops to catch all the illegals and keep out all unwanted aliens into the US. If DT wins the Bush recession will look like a piece of cake.