Mr. BS this post and your approval of it is right up there with your 5,000 Dow post. I will give it to you Mr BS when it comes to way out beliefs you beat even those on the kinky far right. Mark his words folks Obama caused the UK voters to vote the way they did. Just another thing that Mr. BS blames Obama for lol.
But tell me Mr. BS is that not that giving Obama credit for what you support? Even in a backward way?
You are a Capitalist Globalist from your post so now your blaming Obama for being seen in the UK as a man who believes as you do in Globalism. The EU is a trading block which crosses borders of Europe and engages in Globalist trading with other non member nations at EU agreed policies. You can not get more Capitalist Global than that. How does it feel for you to give Obama credit for agreeing with you?
dont fret if the right wing GOP gets control you will have your 5,000 Dow. When a simple vote to leave the EU wrecks the damage it has done what do you think will happen if the US defaults on its debt lol.
nikk I feel very sad for a man like Randel who once was a beacon of the black hope. A man of courage no doubt, a war hero yes, but sadly the last years in Congress has been a disgrace to himself first, to those who continue to vote for him. The think I am encourage about is that the ethic committee did take action I do wish they would do this more often as lots of members up there are crooked as a snake. Few were war heroes but that does not take away the disgrace in my book. The Duke C is another that was war hero and disgraced himself. Maggot reflect more on the person calling someone that more than the target so consider the source. Disgraceful yes. I have posted many times about the twice elected Gov of Fla. how disgraceful it is of the voters of Fla to actually elect this guy twice and how as a CEO he took a huge salary while the company paying him was stealing money. He claimed he was not earning that money of protecting stockholders by not knowing what was going on. Disgraceful covers a lot of Governors and members of Congress who are setting in office right now. It sadly is oftin the voters fault who send these guys back into office or elect them in the first place. Duke C had them fooled but as Mr. Flint showed those who have not sinned had better be really sure they have not sinned. Of course now how many adulterous people we have in office? The guy in La. did get beat for Gov so hope can be found. Sad statement on those who disgrace themselves and the voters who vote for them giving them a pass.
The Demo's lost two very good presidential candidates to adulatory while DT man of the hour. Disgraceful?
Not to those on the Right. Their is forgiveness but both Demo who went down the adultery road never have came back and not counting the guy running and got out of the race. Way to much disgrace in both parties to go around and voters sleep on.
Nikk you think 10-15% of Bernie supporters will not vote for HC? I can not agree with you on that. If the GOP had any sane running that might be true. But 5 months from now the choice will be clear. Those that wanted Sanders will hear a lot of things from HC that sounds like Bernie. Min Wage for one(less than 15 bucks but a solid amout unlike Trump). Wall Street reforms (they may not believe her but none from DT) A Supreme court that is up for grabs as one judge already needs filling and at least one more during the next 4 years os my bet(Bernie supports should understand the importance of SC appointments especially given the 4-4 vote on immigration) Trade will be interesting. Info will come out about DT business deals which are global and HC will be hit with pass votes they both will try to appear less globalist than they are and the BREXT gives them both cover. Foreign policy(how anyone who voted for Bernie could hand our foreign policy over to DT is beyound me) Immigration reform(NO BERNIE supporter will vote for Trump on this one and Bernie himself will be hitting hard on it. Right now you most likely are right that 5-15% of Bernie supporters are talking not voting for HC but when push come to shove they know the cost of not voting for HC over Trump. Some will throw away their votes on minor parties. George Will is even going to throw away his vote as I do not see him voting for HC but not for Trump either. He was the last intellectual voice left speaking for the old GOP and he has left the building. Time will tell.
OK now the right wingers will give me thumbs down on the fact that the Dow has went down big time and FRO is down over 10% since the vote. We saw this everytime in the US when the GOP pulled one of their stunts like shut down the Gov or default. What does it take to make you guys see how dangerous to your asset position your policies are? For a bunch of so called capitalist you sure like to watch the market go down.
I do not think you boys are smart enough to all be short. Congrats Rami they have made you look wise when in fact it was ignorance in the UK that made you look good.
I did bet back in with some shares a buck cheaper than I sold them for.
Webber site is hard for me at least to understand. But from what I see it appears rates have went up from the lows and each route is different but I was thinking more around 38k from what I saw not sure but looks like that was of Fri. Again look for yourselves and post back what you think.
Things change daily but it appears that of say last week President Obama approval rating was over 55% a FACT that is surely not reflected on this board. How does that bode for DT? In the latest poll HC had over a 10% lead over DT and if that holds or stays above 7% going into the GOP convention the pressure to DUMP DT will grow. Lets face it he is not wanted anyway by the GOP power boys. DT has to do some smart politicking between now and convention time. Up hill battle for him now.
I have no clue why Pres. Obama rates is so high but hard to believe that those that him favorable will not vote for HC. Way to early to yet but right now DT is in trouble BIG TIME.
samps you do know that the EU is a trade partnership do you not? Now if the UK wants to change its immigration laws that will take an act of parliament which last time I checked was not part of the EU.
But the votes was riled up by waving immigration as a EU issue. Any Country in the EU is free to pass whatever immigration law they choose as they remain and independent country. If such a law violates some part of a trade agreement within the EU then it would be an issue not of kicking out the law but of rather the EU would continue to do business with a nation that violated a part of trade agreements.
The UK could put tarriff's into law or immigration laws that were against the EU agreements and it would of been up to the EU nations to either kick out the UK or trade with them anyway. The UK voters decided to get the cart ahead of the horse. Now with no Gov and one that will be formed made up of who knows what they may or may not change the immigration laws but regardless what happens that is a decision to be made by the Gov in charge by getting parliament act on such a law. Just as DT idea of keeping Muslim out of the US would have to pass the Fed courts which no one thinks it would do. He would have to follow what Obama has done so oftin and issue such an order by executive order and it would be taken to court immediately just as Obama immigration order was taken to Fed courts. If you think the Fed courts would find for such a law I got a bridge I will sell you cheap.
Mr. BS If I recall DT has went BK 4 times. To go BK you have to not be able to pay your debt. So it seems while you think HC will kick the can down the road DT might kick it over the cliff. DT clearly didn't care about debt in any of the BK he was part of now did he? DT and other smart boys figured out how to make money out of going BK but the US is not like a business to be thrown aside and escape any serious damage to the rest of your holdings. if the US defaults then your 5,000 Dow would be happy days.
You know Mr. BS the money DT got from his dad if he had merely put it in bonds he would have a lot more money today than he does. But that would not get his picture in the paper or on TV. How many times do you see a guy like Buffet or Gates promoting themselves? DT is more like Mr. PT B. a sucker born everyday.
Think about it Mr. BS At DT age his money if invested in just CD's would of turned over 5 times or more and he would really be a legit billionaire instead of a blow hard that had to BK 4 companies while making all that money he is so proud of.
Suggp if DT is against that then why does his companies buy #$%$ from CHina? Does he have to run for president before he reallizes he is against that?
If you believe him that is right but the GOP in Congress are not against that stuff so DT will not be able to pass any laws that would make that illegal even if he wanted too. You vote GOP for Congress and Senator don't you? You realize they are globalist do you not?
How many GOP voters on here are anti Globalist? See how many Brothers you get suggp. If you want to end globalism you should of been for Sanders. DT and HC are both Globalist to the core. HC by past votes and DT because his money buys Globalist goods for his companies. Sorry suggp but you been had.
suggp once again you Lie and invent your own facts. The truth is as anyone can find with a search is:
Ten people were injured Sunday after violence broke out between a white supremacist group and counter-protesters, said authorities in Sacramento, California.
Two of the injured had critical stab wounds, Sacramento Fire Department spokesman Chris Harvey said.
I guess some think it sad that Cal has a no carry law and thus knives,sticks and rock throwing were the weapons of choice. Now if this had happened in Texas where white Supremacist are armed with assult weapons I am sure that not a shot would of been fired. Especially given Texas Stand Your Ground law and all those big bad white supremacist (KKK) would of felt threatened by sticks and stones and name calling and opened up on them.
That might be what suggp and his white supremacist buddies like about Texas and other "Stand your Ground" states and use your weapon when you feel "threatened"
Being White means being threaten comes pretty easy given the number of cops that kill unarmed folks because they "feel threatened" and get no billed by the Grand Jury. The latest one in Ft Worth had 6 cops at a car dealership where an unarmed burglar scared a cop (Trainee) so bad he fired his weapon over six times to make sure the unarmed guy didn't threatened him anymore. No billed by Grand Jury not just for Murder but of all charges. Hey if cops get scared and threatened wearing bullet proof vest and guns I guess anyone can claim they do as well. That is the world we live in today. Im scared blow the sucker away.
White males used to have a little more balls than these guys today. Today they need an assault weapon and a hand gun to feel they can defend themselves. The Texas Rangers used to have a slogan "One riot One Ranger" But that was then and this is now. One assault weapon, One bullet proof vest and 5 buddies and can handle an unarmed burglar. How the mighty has fallen.
dakine I talked to an Irish person yesterday and while N. Ireland and Ireland both are part of the EU they did not see any way that N.Ireland would not leave the UK. Nor did they think that Ireland would ever get out of the EU. One person opinion is just that but I talked with several in the UK that were surprised by the outcome of the Vote. In London the measure was defeated easily but out in the out laying areas it passed pretty well too. Time will tell the fall out but what upside did the Brits hope to accomplish by leaving the EU? They are still going to be just as socialist/capitalist/globalist as always so not sure what the up side can be.
I would hope that a debate over there did show some reason for the vote based on more than than some fear of what may be. Germany is the big winner looks to me as they will be the big eco power in the EU now and not have to give into any UK demands or concerns.
I am looking to see what becomes of the Gov that must be formed now. The Conservatives or Tory party was for it except for their PM who has now gone. So assuming that the Labor party will not be able to form a Gov may be wrong but one thing is that whoever wins and forms up the Gov it will be not one party able to do it but will have to give in to the wishes of other parties to get the numbers they need and I am sure some high level offices will go with the deal. Not going to be pretty is my guess.
oropan you and samps seem to be challenged when it comes to reading and understanding what you read. You read and assume and add too.
Where in that post was burkas mentioned? Do you reject the idea that a women who is Muslim can not be smart, attractive and enjoyable to be around with or without a burka? What a sheltered life you have led.
Have you ever even met and spent any time at all with a Muslim?
I mean you talk about them as if your an expert on them so surely you have more than watching TV or the internet to go by on making your judgement calls? I doubt when your around a man or women that your conversation goes to God in any shape of form but you love to stereotype people by how they dress and what and how they worship.
No hope for you as you are not interested in being around anyone who does not think and look like you.
Given the Brexit vote and the 600 point of Dow and the drop in FRO anyone buying yet?
The Brexit thing good move or stupid had an immedicate effect on the dollar which drove oil down and tanker co as well. But nothing has happened yet and before it does the Brits will have to try to form a Gov.
So nothing except the dark future with all its unknows has happened. This quarter will be based on mostly rates that have already happened. FRO is selling for 1.60 before RS today.
Keep those fingers on the trigger and be ready to fire I am.
I know DT was already a Christian right? But the big meeting that DT had with the "Religious Guys of influence" one of them Dr. James Dobson has put out the word that DT accepted Christ right around the time of the meeting. Dobson is clear that DT still does not understand or "speak" the language of the "church" but he MUST be treated like a babe and brought alone. Dr. Dobson either accepts this idea after being with DT or he is merely saying what DT said and offers it as an appeal to the Religious right who wanted Cruz (Dr. Dobson did as well) and now since DT is ONE OF US We can vote for him.
While you guys who do not vote because of religious reason might see this and dismiss it that bit of info and the meeting DT had with the Boys of the Chruch means a millions of votes that can now not only vote for DT but go and work to get him elected. Sorta like the "Pope's" blessing to Catholics. I doubt the Pope will be in the same business as Dr. Dobson is in trying to shape US political policy but it does have huge influence.
DT has now be anointed officially as "ONE OF US". Dr. D even gave DT some cover down the road when DT forgets the "Language" of the church and blast away with his own old language which to Dr. Dobson is as important as deeds I suppose.
Oh well it is HUGE NEWS for those who felt they had to battle on for Cruz or was torn about DT not really looking and acting and talking like the approve pharisee behavior now that he has been blessed he can be forgiven these lapses down the road if they occur. Got to Love it For you who are believers I am sure someone on Your face book has already posted this great news.
Since DT does not support the EU maybe he will try to end the trade agreements we have with them? Or what about NATO if the EU falls apart? No matter he is one of us now. Just Vote for him, Build Walls to keep out non believers and do not let Muslim's in but send missionaries to them to convert them. Logic of "US".
because they are going to lose a lot of money fast and have done so. But don't worry they will survive since they have a lot of money. The poor or soon to be poorer will find out when they get fired as their job goes away and they go for Gov. money and find the gov is SHORT due to all the business that has shut down or just left the UK .
The good side looks like all of Ireland may end up together after all. All those years of trusting in guns and bombs to win them freedom for the UK and in the end the UK voting gives them a way out. Scotland is GONE that is for sure. Dont worry momma you can vote come Nov. for the person who will come the closest to the feeling that the UK folks just voted DT is a WALL and anti Muslim comming into the country type of guy which I am sure appeals to you. Now the soon to be smaller UK can keep out who ever they want and they will because with the loss of jobs they are going to suffer who would be crazy enough to want to go there.
But they still have their Queen and the house of Lords which does have some power. Funny the country that for years and years was the most open to all races and types of people due to the EMPIRE days has now set the bar on how to be an elitist. Fear not momma the middle class and the poor will suffer and suffer a lot it will just take them a while before the reality of thier dream comes true.
oropan I have the feeling if increasing taxes was the only way to have a hope of your grandkids (if you actually breed) having a world with a chance you still vote no.
Nothing in life is free and if it is it is not worth having.
hey momma exactly where is this fraud that you claim you have found? Please furnish a site where you found this. No one but you seems to be aware of this great discovery.
If it is from Real Science webb site so is this Climate change. The current consensus as elaborated by the IPCC AR5 (PDF page 5) is that humans are responsible for more than half of the increase in global temperature. However, Trump does not believe humans play a major role in climate change and has called global warming a hoax. On the other hand, Clinton supports the science on climate change (though, we may squabble with her individual policy positions)."
dakine funny how NATO will still be in place but I have to wonder what it will like in a few years. The UK will have to cut is militery down huge and who will make up for that? The US is caught between a rock and a hard spot to be honest. We have trade agreements with the EU which will give them the step up over the UK which once traded under those agreements. I also see lots of the big Corp's cutting back in the UK from pressure from the EU. The IMF will soon be effected as well. Russia has won a major victory without even trying.
What type of new Gov. will be formed in the UK? The radical elements of the Labor party that supported this with labor votes will not want to go Conservative and the Conservative boys will not go Labor. The two joined by the votes (not party as both parties were against this) from members who did not follow party advise now have to try to form a Gov.
Did the Queen get involved in this. I was not following this as I never figured that the people was that stupid but once again I underestimated how stupid can be. The clue is in turn out. The right turns out and if the fence sitters remain on the fense the results is what you see in the UK and DT sure is proof it can happen today in the USA as he has won the GOP nod when even today the GOP tries to find a way for him not to be their guy. You better know that all the nut jobs will turn out to vote and he will get some Demo haters just like the vote in UK got some labor voters. The only good thing is we have 6 months to watch the UK fall to pieces before our own election maybe it will make some of the nut jobs think about the reality of what being a stand alone and shoot the finger to the world looks like. Given how much money they have lost today and what will follow they so far don't seem to care. The UK will see 2008 as a good year compared to what 2017 and follows looks like or who knows maybe they have another vote before they go belly up.
diggle do me a big favor and work as hard as you can for a civil war will you. PLEASE.
I wish Texas would put a vote get out of the union up for a vote. My guess it would lose by 55-45% but ALL those for it would vote so who knows.
What would happen to ANY state that left the UNION (you know diggler as in EU the U is for UNION) The corp's have started not going to and leaving states that get too far to the right so I would love to the shock on all the right wingers in the state when XOM and all the the big Corp's with headquarters left the state after the vote. A lot of that is going to happen in the UK. Any new building plans are now on hold. The right wing my have a voice but what they do not have is the money to eco power to the voice.
I do hope your enjoying lossing all the money you are today diggler and the more that will follow. UK got a lot of Labor votes to for this move and they will suffer the most as the income of the Gov goes down and jobs loss hits and its 2008 all over again but this time the IMF and the EU will not be there for them. Will you want your boy DT to send a lot of your tax dollars to bail our your right wing brothers in the UK as they go broke? Or you wanting to move there to enjoy all the FREEDOM you see they gained? They have an island so do they need a Wall as well? I think they need men like you to move over there and help them make a go of this. Or stay here and work hard very hard on that civil war of yours or start a move to get your state to pull out of the union? Who knows this time maybe the Fed will just let you go and after you fail they can come in and treat you like a Possession and not a state any longer. Lincoln was too nice and Johnson was a Southern boy and no one had the balls to hang that traitior Jeff Davis I do hope the union will learn from being to nice to any state that leaves then wants to crawl back in with their whipped tails between their legs.
suggp I have given you a lot of grief on many of your post and I suspect I will in the future as well but in your post today I see a level of understanding because your own eyes saw what was happening. Now you might want to take a look at what those coal companies were claiming was going and see what the GOP was saying trying to stop those clean air and water laws that was passed to stop a lot of what you saw.
Please show me the laws which the GOP started or supported to check the Corp abuse that you point out is indeed the cause of all regulatory laws or the huge majority of them. I too grew up in a polluted area where refineries dump fowl and dangerous water into the river that went into the GOM and pour out dangerous stuff into the air and the men in those plants died of all forms of cancer at such a rate that courts awarded judgement against the refineries and laws were passed again clean air and water laws that stopped a lot of the abuse. It was fought by the GOP all the way. Today Texas is controled by the GOP and has been for years. The number of exempted plants of all kinds to Texas clean air and water laws is as long as the GOP contribution list. Now this may sound political to you and the cry of a liberal lefty but it is really the cry of man who like you saw the abuse and it took the Fed to stop it because the state was owned by the oil Co. and I bet the coal co. Back then the State of Tx was Demo and they were bought and paid for as the GOP is today. The Fed alone stood up to them. They may over reach from time to time but of the two evils you have seen with your own eyes that one evil is always eveil until they are caught and forced to change. One side may cost us a little more the other will kill you. Not a hard choice for me. The day the GOP starts supporting regulation to check proven abuse I will admit it and take another look at them. But until that happens I vote for human life over profit. Your eyes dont lie.