daily you are indeed hopeless when it comes to accepting facts. The white water investigation was yet another of the GOP failed attempts to "get the Clinton's" It was conducted by a GOP house committee and Mr. Comey was a GOP attorney for the majority (GOP) and you think he single handedly got the Clinton's off? your hate for them is clear. You Want them guilty so bad that your mind goes to very dangerous and evil places. The true facts are that Ken Star was special pros. have you forgotten that? Mr.Starr found nothing wrong in white water at all. From the start it was clear that the Clinton's LOST money on the land deal not make money and Star and the GOP committee's wasted millions of dollars until a BJ was discovered. Now if you want to call BC wrong for that I agree with you. But Mrs C did exactly what the word of God said to do. Forgive and stay married. Yet you see her doing so any reason other than her faith which you believe she can not have because she is a sinner and disagrees with you on several issues which to you makes it ok to hate her and attack her and anyone who does not join your attacks as you foolishly do with Mr. Comey. Why not Ken Star was in on it? He not Comey had the lead and was the GOP favorite charge pony and he let go of white water because their was never anything there. You will not even admit that you hate the Clinton's since you know that your not suppose to do but it is clear to anyone who can read you do. I understand that desire to hate instead of love and to smash the person back who hits and to shoot the thief instead of giving them more and I too hate to be made to walk an extra mile. I fail almost daily in one way or the other in all those things but I know I am wrong when I do. While you seem to think as long as it is the Clinton's you attack you are God's little servant. Well your not you are breaking the teachings of Jesus who said clearly to love your enemies and do good by them. Talk to your pastor please
scs I know and RAils I know but you are a Johnny come lately blow heart just like your boy DT. Rails and scs are both right wingers as are you and I have engaged them both in post and they are two different breeds of right wingers while you are waste of time.
All these flag wavers on here voting for a draft dodging coward that ran to daddy to get the rich kid deferment and he knows more than our generals about ISIS. What a big head this man has. America deserves to have him as president a perfect fit for the selfishness cry baby tax cryers out there. DT is going to increase the military budget lol and build a wall and hire more Fed Cops to catch all the illegals and keep out all unwanted aliens into the US. If DT wins the Bush recession will look like a piece of cake.
I admit my investments at times contrast my desires for planet earth. Let us say that DT wins and he builds a wall and makes Mexico pay for it. He deports 11 million illegals, He stops all Muslim's from comming into the US until he is sure they are vetted and he of course starts up the tarrif and quatos. Those would be huge changes on the American eco. All NEW. The cost side would be stagering even if Mexico paid for the Wall.
Finding arresting and flying out 11 million men women and children would be very expensive while working on debt reduction. Then we have the millions of children who are legal and whos parents are no long in the states. Let them roam the streets? Kick them out of schools? Who will take care of them? Food stamps? Housing? US GOV new adopation and homes to raise these kids or does DT send out of the country US citizens with their parents? And then we have all those jobs that the 11 million had or say only 7 million of them worked what or who will do those jobs? Low paid min wage for some and no raise in min wage and skilled labor in construction and building that American's are able to do. Do we import the same people we threw out under some kind of work permit? Does the Gov pay for training of those unskilled? Then there is the end to Globalism by tarriff and quotas and all the effect on the econemy that will have and all those jobs coming back to a already depleaded by 7 million illegals leaving. All over the world the ripple effect of that would be felt such as less shipping of goods since the US the #1 trader would be making more at home. Mexio between paying for the wall and the loss of the US manufacturing jobs would go into depression and the drug lords would take over the country. Canada would go into depression as well. Close out or greatly reduce the US market for ASian made goods and depression would hit China and they could turn to war if eco fails to keep the people in line. DT new World.
dakine do you know any man alive that could with a women like chug? Now she and her time to mention husband ( poor soul) has a foundation lol. So does DT but so far we have not heard one thing that the DT foundation does. We know the million of lives saved by the Clinton foundation but all I know DT has done is buy a picture of himself and get others to give money then what is it spent for? Maybe same thing that chug claims. All the idle time that Chug spends on this board she might instead spend it with those women she claims to be helping and all you have to see all her post and arguments with anyone who dares to disagree with "her" and know that she rarely spends anytime for anything away from keyboard of which I am sure her husband is glad lol. Just once I would like to see a so called Liberal politician get up and go over the list of things Liberals have done and still fight to do. 40% of Americans are so selfish they hate Liberals because the good things for human being they do "MIGHT" cost them a buck or two in tax dollars. While they get their Liberal socialist SS checks and use their Liberal and socialist Medicare and the ones that actually worked as a W-2 earner was protected by LIBERAL Labor laws that made employees pay for overtime and keeping them from forcing more than 40hr work week without pay. I am proud to be a Liberal I just wish Liberal politicians would stop dodging who they are and start letting the undereducated idiots know who has been protecting them from the abuse of money and big business. The very air we believe and water we drink is because of Gov. regs. Stupid people may one day get their wish and see the US become the same as the 3rd world countries were "conservative" people with money and power do nothing for anyone but themselves and if DT wins that will be the beginning of the judgment on this country.
Jane Doe vs DT & Jeffery E. Epstein Fed court, you mention Jill Harth and said it was not sexual in nature wrong "And Ivana isn’t the only one. Jill Harth accused Donald Trump of sexual assault, and she has also taken her allegations to federal court. Ms. Harth’s lawsuit told the frightening story of Trump’s forcing her into his daughter Ivanka’s bedroom, holding her there against her will, and molesting her while she protested. Ms. Harth sued back in 1997, but the lawsuit was quickly drooped. However, Harth has reaffirmed her story recently in a Twitter war with Trump.Trump also denied her charges" "In a deposition in their 1992 divorce, Ivana Trump, Trump’s first wife, described a horrific scene in which Trump violently forced her to have sex with him. " That was in a divorce action so at least 3 times before he ran for president he was mention in a court case or the subject of a court being filed for sexual acts alleged. I never said he had criminal cases against him as it is harder to prove a criminal case than civil as I am sure you know and yes money is involved in all three cases but so was money the issue in Paula Jones case against BC. As I said three times in court or filing for court DT has been named as sexual violator of women and one is active in Federal court now.
Endless post about something that no one can prove. YAH YAH YAH YAH over and over again. You guys are making the conversations on the new site look good as you have reduced this board to a joke as well. Who cares what you paid or how much you made big deal no one can prove what you all claim and frankly I don't care. I am sorry that your lives or so unchallenging that you must spend the time you do yaking at each other. Go do something to help someone or play with your kids or take your wife out. I think I would rather watch DT than read your stupid post on I did this and how great I am bla bla bla. Get a life
scs Let me inform you of a few things since you clearly do not understand my position on this election. I am not voting so I have no candidate. Both of them are poor choices. DT because of his total lack of character, his lack of growing up and learning how to play well with others and his ego which will cause him not to take advise from anyone. If you think he was told to say he would not accept the results of the election by all those around him then you are as silly as your boy DT.
I have said and continues to say I am against abortion unless it is for rape or incest or the life of the mother is involved and even then abortion should be one of the options open to a women. Unlike you conservatives I support Gov money to pay for the treatment of mother and unborn and understand that cost money ie taxes, I also support money for health care after birth for mother and child as well again tax dollars involved. You can not want to force over a million births a year and not step up and pay for the medical cost of the mother and child when the mother has no money. That is not what Jesus would do now is it? I have forgiven DT for his behavior but that does not mean he does not have to pay a price for his actions. Forgiveness is one thing paying the cost of your sin is another. God at times allows no cost but DT got caught his sin is public and the price is public as well just as BC was. BC should of resigned and DT is unfit to be the GOP guy. He became that when he admitted he was a serial adulterer. The GOP primary voters have cost their party the election by accepting and wanting him as their guy. Morals and character does count.
After watching the debate last night I am certain that anyone who votes for DT is risking having a loose cannon hand on the Nuke button. He approaches dealing with our NATO allies as if it was merely a business showing again how unfit he is to serve. Maybe punishment is coming regardless who wins? We have earned it by selfishness.
dakine funny how the flag waving right seem to forget that DT the poor little spoiled rich kid that daddy bought not one, not two but three draft deferments for and DT dodged the draft and missed his chance to go to Viet Nam. Has Trump EVER went to a place of danger not for his country like HC has done numerous times but even for business trips? DT will not release his tax returns period and if HC does not she is missing a chance to slam him before the first debate. Her and BC paid in the high bracket of taxes according to what she has released and they gave away 10% to charities. DT??????? NONE OF AMERICA BUSINESS. To me the best choice will be setting at home this year as none of them gets my support enough to drive to vote. All the anti Gov guys should vote for Johnson but might ought to look at what happened in N. Mex before doing that.
Again all the anti Gov right wing boy hate the Gov "Interfering with States rights" but funny how they jump on Obama for not going to La. when the flood happens. BTW in La. both demo and GOP praised the help and support of the Fed Gov. I guess Obama put a guy in charge that knew a little about floods and helping folks instead of judging horses.
We used to not let women vote and have slaves and kill Indians and even each other over slaves and Robber Barrons got there name not out of admiration and respect. DT may be your idea of what a great person looks like but to me he is a three time draft dodger, a two time (so far) loser in marriage and started his role to success on his daddy's money. I do not ridicule success nor jealous of those who have it. The Sage remains a man to model investing and I doubt that he many times more wealthy that DT has not sued or been sued nor went BK as much as your boy DT. When you do not show something it usually is because you have something to hide or your ashamed for others to find out. DT foundation is a scam while the Clinton Foundation has saves hundred of thousand of lives. I get it why those who oppose abortion are voting for DT and most are honest enough to admit they are holding their nose when they do. If DT is your idea of what a great American success story should be then we share totally different values which I suspect we do given your post. I guess you love the wall street crowd who almost put the country into a depression they are your hero's and how they lined up to take Federal money and paid themselves bonuses while stockholders got the shaft. Character and morals make a man great not his wealth. Some have both but I am not too sure DT has either.
chugmy if you post on other boards as much as you do this one anyone can see that as a trader it must interfere with watching what is your "job" to watch. Sorry your job is that boring I suggest you find a job that you enjoy and real people you can talk with instead of unknown strangers on this board who you enjoy insulting but hey maybe that it is the way you roll. Good luck with that and I do hope you do not take that home to wife and kids as it is very bad way to roll.
chugmy if you think anyone on this board believes a word of what you say you have done with your stock purchases and sales you are truly delusional. For an adult your are worse than a child and that I suppose why your a DT child voter lol. Tell us ole smart guy do you think DT will stop illegals from coming into the country with his billions of dollars wall or do you believe Mexico will pay for it? Do you think he will stop all Muslim's from entering the country? (only until vetted even?) Do you think he is telling the truth about his Foundation and his taxes and will disclose both? Do you think he knows more than the generals about ISIS oh wait he changed his mind on that like Obama place of birth now he wants the generals to tell him what to do or does he? I don't blame a DT support from talking about anything but what their guys stands for and his personal doctor and dr. Oz say he is OK no mention of being 70 and over weight which he clearly is.
Well lets hope you find something that the other DT supporters on this will enjoy from you as they are by now sick of your self serving I am a great stock picker which you have proven to not be. Maybe you were born in Kenya with Obama lol.
dakine during the Great Depression people shared what they had with family, neighbors and strangers. They voted for the "New Deal" which was a Gov. that shared with others what they took in and thus the birth of LIBERALISM by having SS to make sure the old did not starve to death. The tax rate was very high btw and the GOP hated this idea and have fought it ever since. Today strangers are not seen as folks to help. We do not even know our neighbors nor do most of want to but live in our privacy fence houses. We see skin color or country of origin as the reason to not be "Liberal" in how we view folks. The way people view taxes is the easiest way to see selfishness in us all. We think the Gov takes only and worse gives MY MONEY to THOSE who are not like ME. Wrong of course in that the Gov has given us the ability to grow our eco and the well being of us all. The rich benefit the most from a stable protected country as their business run on good roads and safe policed streets but they see paying taxes as only a loss of THIER money. Study the business history of the state of La. and you will a state that was ran by New Orleans and Baton Rouge and the rest of the state without the benefit of Gov spending. Huey Long came in and during the Great Depression used tax dollars from the oil industry to build roads and bridges and open the state up to business. No Governor did more for the people and the business community of La. than did this Liberal. La. conservatives still hate the guy and they killed him in the end but La. is a better state today because of taxes being used to transform a backward state into a business friendly state. Yes he took care of the old and poor and even the blacks as that is who voted for him. But all made money because Huey even Standard Oil (Exxon) did well even with the tax burden they made money. Greed and selfishness maybe a instant benefit but the LT pay back is never as good as investing the money into the future.
chug I have to admit it I am so enjoying your pain of lossing this election. Yea the SC will be liberal and I hope they do more than just keep Roe alive in fact I disagree with that decision totally but I do look forward to more needed Gov regs to stop big business from destroying the water and air of our country and who knows maybe reverse the big money into politics. Gun Control might be interesting but I do not see doing away with it and the court has all ready said that gun control was legal so only needs to expand controls of ownership to make gun shows and private sells illegal without checks. End assault weapons sales and other weapons of war. oh that got a lot of goats lol.
chug here are some facts for you . Liberals were against slavery, Liberals were for women voting rights, Liberals were for labor laws, Liberals were for clean air and water laws, Liberals created the min wage, Liberals fought Jim Crow laws, Liberals passed every work safety laws on the books. Conservatives like you were against each and every one of these things. Folks who think business will "DO THE RIGHT THING" are ignorant of history they have never done the right thing until made too and then they lie and hide the truth about what they do. They dump steel into the US market place and mislabel it. The price fix on food, They cheat royalty holders on oil royalty money. All done by Big US business and all against the laws LIBERALS passed and conservatives fought against as useless regulations. Liberals made the coal companies stop killing their miners Conservatives were against such laws. Fracking is a proven cause of man made earth quakes yet still the cry is drill baby drill from conservatives. Putting waste into the ground causes not only earth quakes but also pollutes the water of people who need that water to live.
Both parties want power as that is what politics is all about. It is what they do with the power once they have it that counts. Liberals passed SS and Medicare and conservatives fought it. Liberals passed Medicaid to keep the poor from dying and conservatives fought it. Liberals' passed food stamps that keep children alive and conservatives fought it. Do not get insulted about partial birth abortion and then want to let a poor child forced into the world die from lack of food. Better to kill them fast than to let them starve but hey that cost tax money to keep them alive which again Liberals are for and conservatives are against. Climate change is being pushed by Liberals and 98% of the scientist in that field while conservatives want to protect business instead. Yes I am a LIberal on ALL issues that I listed and proud of it
suggp I do not know where you live but in Texas the State runs the schools as far as testing is concerned and every school regardless of make up of students has to give a test and a student must pass to graduate. All scores are counted and the states portion of funding is "threatened" on how well a school does and even teachers of bad preforming classes. The test are based on expectations of students being "college students" and the attention to crafts like metal shop or wood shop and auto repair are not even found in the great majority of H.S. anymore. Most do have cosmology and computer science courses but if you want to be a higher paid plumber or electrician your out of luck. You can go to college and go in debt for 100,000 of dollars and get out and go to work at some retail store or teach school or work in Corp American or Global America and make less that a good plumber or electrician or body man or auto mechanic all good paying jobs just blue collar which seems not to be of interest in our schools any more. Funding and parents suing the schools when the schools try to discipline have lead to a school system in Texas that puts learning not at the top of the list. Most of the job training is funded by the Federal Gov assist as Texas will only finance what they need to get by except for football of course and most of the Funds to a Texas school comes from property taxes paid at a rate set by the Independent School Dist. that the area is within and that varies from district to dist. to dist. The Federal Courts have made Texas make the same education standards as in the past during Jim Crow black and Hispanic schools were underfunded by the state and dist they were in. Only the Federal Courts made that practice end in Texas. Now a "poor district" (regardless of race of students) must be funded by the state a state wide "low" and a poor dist. would not add to that but a rich could if they wanted too and they do. Money not race in Texas.
jrfillion I agree that all you will be looking at is important as free cash flow always should be to any company. The history of the tanker sector has not been pretty I think is one reason you see FRO under such pressure now. They were quick to follow past trends and start buying new ships as soon as they started making money. NAT has a more conservative approach but they two have added to their fleet of suez ships. The problem is two fold with the market. Today rates and number of ships and the number of ship in 6 months or a year or more and what that will do to the rates. Add to that the new debt that FRO has added and you get the fear that the market has. I wished they had played it more conservative than they did and not entered a buying spree which will damage both the rates and effect the balance sheet with debt. As rates fall and they have more ships will mean more revenue but at a less profit rate and debt must be paid and we saw FRO almost go down a little over a year ago and now they have increased the fleet to capture more business at less profit per ship. Dividend is import to income investors and a Co. like NAT has a better track record of over the long being a better investment that has FRO or other shippers as they manage a smaller but better ran business in the past. I do own both FRO is making money at todays rates and does have more ships and many were contracted at 50,000 a day for this quarter. The 3rd Q. will be interesting if rates do not start to rebound.
suggp DT is much richer than HC and lies as much and I think more. He is at best a blow heart and worse a total nut job that actually thinks he knows more about ISIS than the generals do. Now he is going to ask those same generals to tell him what their plan is. Which is it? He talks out of both sides of his mouth to pump up idiots who like to hear simply dumb answers to very difficult adult issues and they are not many adults in DT rallies. A wall will not work nor can 10 million illegals be deported and if DT thinks Putin is trustworthy then he will learn the hard way and so will a US foreign policy lead by DT. DT says let China handle N. Korea??? really then why do we keep over 50,000 military in S. Korea and Japan to let China tell us what to do with them. Every president since GH Bush has asked China to "help" out with N. Korea so DT answer shows how little he and his supporters know about US foreign policy. DT says Obama and HC started ISIS. Only a total idiot would say and believe that thus 45% of American voters are voting like they are idiots. DT still thinks Obama was not born in Hawaii or claims he is that stupid. lets be honest suggp you do not have a very good candidate to vote nor is voting for HC much better. HC will continue the sound eco policy that has given us a rebounding eco under Obama and demo policies and that is why most smart eco guys who yes like to make money (your the capitalist not me remember ) are for HC instead of DT. If you want the shoot off the hip type of eco that DT will bring then short the market if he wins so you can make money when he and the right wing nut jobs GOP drive us into a depression. I just hate that if HC wins I have to listen to 4 more years of you guys on the right crying like babies about losing yet again.
As team owner Mr. Jones can do as long as the NFL does not tell him he can not. The thing about our form of Gov is that with freedom comes the right to be stupid or not believe in God or Not stand for pledge or even be the color of choice or the religion of choice. That is what our country is all about. Those who love their rights to carry a gun are often times the same ones not wanting to give a Muslim their right to be a Muslim or not to stand for pledge or freedom of speech if that speech is not what they want to hear. The real question from a Nation point of view is does that make us stronger or weaker as a people? The US is a Democratic Republic with a Const. and amendments that lay out the rights of all. The Kingdom of God is ran by a loving King but He is the King. I like the Kingdome best of all as with God mercy is more important than justice and forgive more importance than rights and loving those different from you or even your enemies is more important than being right. In the USA it seems many want their rights but want to deny others the same rights while in the Kingdom of God He alone decides who and when and how He will see those of his Kingdom and thanks be to the Lord Jesus Christ that God has said he will look through the blood of His Son when he looks at us. That is worth standing up for and jumping up and down but above all bowing a knee to to and saying thank you Father. The rest is just of the way of the world a mere distraction in the vapor called life.
suggp you are totally without any knowledge of how our Gov works if you think that none of those of both parties do not take money from anyone to their campaign which only benefits them to win office and not to give to help others as the Clinton Foundation does. How do you think that EVERY Senator and Congressman gets money to run for office?
That is not illegal and neither is HC taking money from anyone of any religion or none religion to put into a five star regulated Charity Trust that even the GOP admits does great work. You have pretty much summed yourself up with your statement "people stupid enough to give money" Selfish people do not understand that some folks do things to help others. The oil industry gave hundred of millions to GW Bush campaign then wrote the new regulations on how the oil industry would benefit from less taxes and regulations. That should be illegal but in our Gov it is not. Buying votes is the name of the game and here you have HC taking money to give away to help others not her or her family but millions of poor in undeveloped countries and no one has found anything but a meeting happened which again is done everyday by every Senator or Congressman and president of both parties. People like you are so stupid that you do not understand this is done daily. Its the American way of doing Gov buddy boy. The so called Quid Pro Quo is scared words in our Gov. and here HC was taking money for charity not her campaign. The foundation does not give to her or her campaign that would be something to get upset over.