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sonofcaan 57 posts  |  Last Activity: Feb 18, 2016 7:42 AM Member since: Aug 13, 2012
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  • sonofcaan sonofcaan Feb 18, 2016 7:42 AM Flag

    MWC (Congress) is about B2B. Fitbit aren't listed as exhibitors but are sending Fitbit Wellness director, Aideen O'Colman, to participate in a panel, "Wearables for Wellness and Lifestyle".

  • Published 16th of February.

  • Only Strava remain independent now.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Reply to

    It looks like a Jawbone!

    by nvnu Feb 3, 2016 9:02 AM
    sonofcaan sonofcaan Feb 3, 2016 9:56 AM Flag

    Very strange rollout.

    No HR, no ability to pair to a chest strap (Fitbit should make such an accessory), $129/#$%$139. The only thing I like about it versus the Blaze is that it doesn't replace your watch. Blaze fails because it's expected to be worn every day, all day, so it replaces your watch with its ambition. The Alta doesn't, so it has more hope. However, expensive when you start buying alternative bands. I don't see this brining in new customers, just appealing to current ones for upgrade.

    I still stand by my call that FIT isn't worth $2B.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

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    Holding up

    by sprinklerguy1210 Jan 7, 2016 7:40 AM
    sonofcaan sonofcaan Jan 7, 2016 9:30 AM Flag

    I think you're wrong about litigation causing most selling. It's due to Blaze. It's a product that will cannibalize and nothing to do with the "Global Corporate Health and Wellness Platform". Where are the products to fill the holes in that mission?

    Fitbit hardware should be viewed as apps. Health tracking is a feature, not product. No one should pay $200 for a fitness app, not including in-app purchases, even if you get a watch for free. Oh, and Blaze's similarity to Apple Watch confirms Apple are competition, which FIT have often said otherwise and point to the potential of Corporate Wellness programs. Their mission statement, direction and management seem unfocused.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

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    Apple Watch can do what Fitbit does?

    by buy_chinadotcom Jan 6, 2016 11:26 AM
    sonofcaan sonofcaan Jan 6, 2016 1:21 PM Flag

    Furthermore, the Apple Watch pairs to BLE HRMs, like Polar's H7 and Wahoo's Tickr. The way workouts are implemented in Activity app, I haven't made a good case for using another HRM during workouts. If you want more precise feedback, a BLE HRM combined with a Watch-native 3rd party app like Strava, MotiFit, Runkeeper or Runtastic make the Watch a completely different toolbox than anything Fitbit offers.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Health and Wellness platform company? Isn't that the description of FIT investors were counting on? Corporate Wellness, insurance premium mitigator, enterprise platform? Where are the new sensors with FDA and HIPAA approval? Blood pressure, glucose, pulse oximetry, breath analysis, EKG, decibel monitor, pantry scale, body temperature? No, FIT are going after Apple's low-hanging fruit. The wrong way.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • sonofcaan sonofcaan Dec 14, 2015 3:22 PM Flag

    You've 1671 words in this thread. Really?

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • sonofcaan sonofcaan Dec 14, 2015 2:45 PM Flag

    363 words. Talk about idiots with a keyboard. My, my, my...

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • sonofcaan sonofcaan Nov 18, 2015 2:49 PM Flag

    I only wish he stated such prior to launching the Watch. Instead, I got a litmus test of sorts. They whose initial Watch coverages included false claims of what the Watch was to include, followed by conjecture as to why such features had to be "removed", exposed whom actually does NOT have their finger on the pulse of Apple's health plans.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Source story at Mobihealthnews

    "Apple CEO strongly hints at plans for an FDA regulated app or device"

    Where are Fitbit's FDA-nodded bits? Anyone?

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • sonofcaan sonofcaan Nov 16, 2015 10:14 AM Flag

    You are the perpetual devil's advocate, aren't you? I'm to make no statements without completely illustrating my point in watertight fashion. I'm long-winded enough as it were. I've also COVERED some of these points with you in the past.

    Don't directly compare Fitbits to smartphones. That'd be like comparing a budget hotel room to a house on an hectare. Smartphones, and now smartwatches, are dynamically modular systems with hundreds of wireless accessories for almost any job to be done. The smartphone is your digital health hub, and it's always with you. MOST people, overwhelmingly so, WANT their smartphones with them when they leave the house. It's their communication (emergency, telephony, sms), camera, social life (Instagram, FB, Twitter), music (Subscription, library, radio), news (RSS, Flipboard, news apps), calculator, digital payments, and scores more.

    Fitbit's partner selection doesn't permit full flow, bi-directional data.

    If a Fitbit appliance at least brought more accurate, actionable data, there might be a case for one. But only as a modular accessory to a smartphone and/or smartwatch. Fitbits aren't a good value and won't hold what value they have very well.

    That's all from me today. Have a good day.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • sonofcaan sonofcaan Nov 16, 2015 8:56 AM Flag

    Billions of Android phones have sold in the last six years, with most OEMs making losses or no profit. No one sold as many phones as Nokia, even as recent as 2012, and poof, they're gone.

    What doesn't make sense is spending money on an appliance that gathers the same metrics as a smartphone, esp when those data are locked into Fitbit's ecosystem. Need HRM? You can get one of several Bluetooth HRMs, a smartwatch that includes one and/or several other Bluetooth LE health metrics accessories.

    Fitbit's ecosystem is limited, limiting and is a poor value.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • sonofcaan sonofcaan Nov 16, 2015 5:08 AM Flag

    I don't know your age but I'm closing in on 50, which means I've spent a few quid on standalone technologies that have been obsoleted by smartphone modularities. Frankly, if smartphones were 2X their cost, they'd be worth it for what they're capable of. I used to buy cameras (video and still), film, accessories, developing, projectors, packaging and postage to send media and correspondence to loved ones and business partners, I no longer need typewriters, reams of paper, ink ribbons and White-Out, no longer need calculators (graphing or 10-key), no longer need maps or nav-systems in my car, I can carry hundreds of novels with me, access to 10M songs, watch TV and movies, I no longer need a dictaphone and I can compose music anywhere with GarageBand... You KNOW I could keep writing examples but you get the picture.

    The EKG Watch accessory that Dr. Dave Albert has pending approval with the FDA is not a gimmick. Your welcome to argue the merits of his innovation on Twitter @DrDave01, @DrLeslieSaxon, and while you're at it why not give @EricTopol your opinions. Dr. Topol is the the most published expert on the digital health scene.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Reply to

    FIT as a Corporate Wellness company myth.

    by sonofcaan Nov 15, 2015 9:45 AM
    sonofcaan sonofcaan Nov 15, 2015 12:52 PM Flag

    FIT's MC finally below GRMN's, where it should remain; $5,64B vs $6,64B. When the dust finally settles, FIT's MC will be 50% of GRMN's.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • sonofcaan sonofcaan Nov 15, 2015 12:37 PM Flag

    ffs, you take the cake. More pain coming your way, count some for being disrespectful.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Reply to

    Morning exercise routine counting fitbits

    by nickpat666 Nov 15, 2015 11:19 AM
    sonofcaan sonofcaan Nov 15, 2015 12:04 PM Flag

    "...but it's this kind of stuff that focus groups pay so much money trying to obtain...."

    Except that your hypothetical is 100% bs. 💩

    The fun resumes tomorrow when FIT sinks to new lows that won't make sense to you.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • sonofcaan sonofcaan Nov 15, 2015 10:00 AM Flag

    Just like GPROs, Fitbits are everywhere. Note the discounts.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • So, you think FIT are better than their competitors because they serve up attractive, effective and lucrative Corporate Wellness programs? Right.

    •STILL less than 1% of Revenues are incomes from Premium services.
    •Where are the details of these Corporate Wellness deals? Costs, length of commitment, benefits, etc.
    •Do you know that Garmin and Polar offer their own Corporate Wellness, team support programs? You really should know how these stack up instead of assuming Fitbit have the magic sauce.

    Forget for a moment the Corporate Wellness sales pitch, why haven't FIT's numbers improved above, "less than 1% of Revenues", for Premium subscription services if it were a bonafide competitive differentiator?

    At the end of the day, FIT are only selling fitness bands, clips and a few weight scales. Services aren't affecting revenues yet. And the slipping ASPs suggests heavier discounting.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Reply to

    Insiders must know GPRO moment is coming

    by crewcoachmickey1 Nov 14, 2015 7:50 AM
    sonofcaan sonofcaan Nov 15, 2015 5:07 AM Flag

    Where is the better value? Unseasoned athletes suddenly wanting 24/7 monitoring, or established athletes who consistently rely upon sports technology (only when active) to optimise conditioning? Active session data are far more actionable and, as such, valuable than passive data gathered 24/7.

    This topic needs its own thread.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

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