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CardizemCD 28 posts  |  Last Activity: Jan 28, 2015 4:20 PM Member since: Dec 13, 1998
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  • Reply to

    stop it people... Apple is not going up 20 points

    by cardizemcd Jan 27, 2015 11:21 PM
    cardizemcd cardizemcd Jan 28, 2015 4:20 PM Flag

    yes... short sellers are contrary thinkers... they see opportunity where others do not... they don't panic when the tide is against them.... they don't whine constantly about how unfair the market is... they have to endure more pain as a stock rises.. it is unnatural to trade as a short... we are not taught as children to look at the good in something that is bad..... even as we learn to invest we are looking for stocks that go up.... to look for the negative in a stock.... to put oneself into a contrary position takes a lot more than the average investor just buying and holding.... shorting is a thinking contrary process..... giving credit to shorts for what they do is not a "betrayal" it is an acknoweldgement.... I trade both sides... it took me 15 years in the stock market before really felt like I had the knowledge base or the balls to trade short or buy puts..... I am o.k. with giving credit where credit is due....

  • Reply to

    stop it people... Apple is not going up 20 points

    by cardizemcd Jan 27, 2015 11:21 PM
    cardizemcd cardizemcd Jan 28, 2015 4:13 PM Flag

    thanks chessen29... these people do not read... and then they can't understand how they are losing money investing in stocks.. they can't even handle a simple supply and demand equation.....

  • Reply to

    stop it people... Apple is not going up 20 points

    by cardizemcd Jan 27, 2015 11:21 PM
    cardizemcd cardizemcd Jan 28, 2015 12:15 PM Flag

    Thank you very much. I try to be as simple as possible in discussing Apple on this board. Unfortunately people are very negative in their replies. Apple is a great company. It has a decent trading range. The stock splti was Apple's attempt to take out some of the volatility in the stock price by creating a massive supply of shares. It has done a decent job so far. The stock buy back program and dividend are additional mechanisms in place to dampend the volatility (i.e. speculation, turnover, shorting, etc.). If the fear is at anytime Apple can and will buy back large blocks for shares or raise it's dividend it will and has cut out the big big short positions and speculators. They don't want Cook smacking them around just for fun.

  • Reply to

    stop it people... Apple is not going up 20 points

    by cardizemcd Jan 27, 2015 11:21 PM
    cardizemcd cardizemcd Jan 28, 2015 12:06 PM Flag

    if you follow the thread the original poster stated that Apple would move up 20 points based upon earnings... I disagreed and gave an explanation.... emotionally invested? does than mean I have a firm belief in my premise? of course I do.. what's the point in commenting if I don't believe.. hysterical? hardly.. just a yahoo message board... "arguing" my case... it's great fun...

  • Reply to

    stop it people... Apple is not going up 20 points

    by cardizemcd Jan 27, 2015 11:21 PM
    cardizemcd cardizemcd Jan 28, 2015 12:02 PM Flag

    a 10 point swing during a given day is NOT the same as a 10 point move upwards in a stock... a swing day or a trading range day is essentially the same stock being passed around... for the stock to go up $10 points is new supply coming to the market place... because as lower levels ($1 up, $2 up, $3 up, etc.) those shareholders did not deem the price worthy of selling to the market.. as the market makers find it harder and harder to shake loose shares they increase their BID to entice new sellers.... they then flip those shares at a higher ASK price... because the demand for shares is increasing..... a $10 up move speaks to higher demand than supply where as a $10 trading range speaks more to tug of war between supply and demand..... subtle difference but real in money terms....

  • Reply to

    stop it people... Apple is not going up 20 points

    by cardizemcd Jan 27, 2015 11:21 PM
    cardizemcd cardizemcd Jan 28, 2015 11:55 AM Flag

    a $10 move in Apple is well within it's range.... but if it did move $10 in a day it would give back $2-$3 the days afterwards.. sell programs... book balancing... a nice upward move of $1-$3 per day for a few weeks is what everyone should be looking for.. nice steady position building by institutions.... everyone looking for a PCLN or GOOG type of move is misguided... those moves are no good in the long run... a nice boring upward trajectory is the goal.....

  • Reply to

    stop it people... Apple is not going up 20 points

    by cardizemcd Jan 27, 2015 11:21 PM
    cardizemcd cardizemcd Jan 28, 2015 11:53 AM Flag

    shorts are much smarter and have more discipline than longs... they would not put themselves in a position that would see them covering to the point of pushing Apple up 20 points.. stop it people with this quest for parabolic moves with Apple... parabolic ups lead to parabolic downs... just take the low slope, minimal incline upward movement in Apple.... it is more sustainable and better for holding a given stock price.....

  • Reply to

    stop it people... Apple is not going up 20 points

    by cardizemcd Jan 27, 2015 11:21 PM
    cardizemcd cardizemcd Jan 28, 2015 11:50 AM Flag

    ok... I will say it again... Apple will not, can not under any real circumstance go up 20 points in 1 day... they have close to 6B shares outstanding.... when the stock goes up 5, 10 or even 15 points the sell signals will be tremendous and the supply will be so great the market makers will have to drop the stock price to handle the volume... supply and demand..... over time.. yes Apple can be 20 points higher than it is today.. but it can not go up 20 points in a day...... PCLN has 60M shares outstanding... it is much easier to move a stock that has 60M shares outstanding than it is to move a stock wit 6B shares outstanding....

  • Reply to

    stop it people... Apple is not going up 20 points

    by cardizemcd Jan 27, 2015 11:21 PM
    cardizemcd cardizemcd Jan 28, 2015 11:46 AM Flag

    I did not say Apple could not go up 20 points... I said Apple could not go up 20 points in one day.... did you even read what I wrote?

  • Reply to

    120+++ open

    by alskacalling Jan 27, 2015 9:50 PM
    cardizemcd cardizemcd Jan 28, 2015 11:45 AM Flag

    like I said.. did not open at 120... and as of this writing it is going down... of of the highs for the day.... why is this so hard for people grasp? this is how markets work.... parabolic stocks don't stay up.... parabolic stocks come down as hard and as fast as they go up.... Apple going up 15 or 20 points in a day would be a disaster... the number of sell programs that would kick in would be too many to count.... stock would just flood the market makers and they would have no other choice than to tank the stock to get control of the supply... which would snow ball as the stock went lower... more trailing stop losses would kick in, etc etc... and who's the schmuck that all the thumbs down on my comments overnight....how childish....

  • Reply to

    stop it people... Apple is not going up 20 points

    by cardizemcd Jan 27, 2015 11:21 PM
    cardizemcd cardizemcd Jan 27, 2015 11:46 PM Flag

    oh my gosh.... are you not listening.... I said Apple will not trade up 20 points in a day... it can't... there are too many shares outstanding to make that kind of a move... NFLX has 60M shares outsanding... that's 60M vs. 5.86B ... Apple has 100x more shares outstanding that Netflix.... for $30B you could buy NFLX...for the same money you could buy 200M shares of Apple... hardly even dent the outstanding shares... which is why NFLX can go up 20 points in a day and Apple can't... simple supply and demand proposition....

  • Apple has over 5.86B... Billion shares outstanding... the stock CAN'T go up close to $120B in market cap in 1 day.... get real...

  • cardizemcd cardizemcd Jan 27, 2015 10:07 PM Flag

    stock is more likely to go down as up... don't sweat it... in the long run Apple will go up....

  • Reply to

    Up a lousy 6 pts???

    by michaelyoung2000 Jan 27, 2015 9:39 PM
    cardizemcd cardizemcd Jan 27, 2015 10:06 PM Flag

    it ran to $120 already... don't worry about it.... just buy the stock... it will go up in time....

  • Reply to

    120+++ open

    by alskacalling Jan 27, 2015 9:50 PM
    cardizemcd cardizemcd Jan 27, 2015 9:57 PM Flag

    not going to happen...more likely the stock closes down tomorrow.... from all the profit taking....

  • Reply to

    Tomorrow pricing question

    by murfnut Jan 27, 2015 9:47 PM
    cardizemcd cardizemcd Jan 27, 2015 9:56 PM Flag

    make no financial sense to sell your shares tomorrow... unless you are going to lose your house or your business there is no reason for you to sell your shares tomorrow.... if anything you should be trying to find some money to buy more...

  • Reply to

    Apple will go down after earnings

    by cardizemcd Jan 27, 2015 9:54 AM
    cardizemcd cardizemcd Jan 27, 2015 9:51 PM Flag

    you can take advantage of the system in a couple of ways
    1. for 90% of investors - just buy Apple stock on a regular basis. buy a few shares or whatever you can afford every month like putting money in a piggy bank.. don't care about how much you are paying.. don't even pay attention to the balance... just buy every month as much as you can afford.... at some point you may need the money for whatever (a house, college fund, etc.)... then you take the money out and do what you need to do.... .or save it for retirement..... the actual cost is irrelevant because over the course of several decades you will make a ton of money... I have been on this board since at least 1999 (check it out).. read my posts... my Apple bullishness has never changed.... ever...
    2. if you want to trade Apple.... short term buy calls after good news is out and the stock has been hammered... the big boys hammer a stock so they can get in cheaper.. wait until you feel the stock has bottomed... then buy calls.... on the other side when the stock is running away to the moon and nothing can go wrong buy puts when you feel the hysteria is at it's peak...... tomorrow morning around 10:30 - 11:00 the Apple Bulls will be foaming at the mouth... so giddy like it's Christmas or their first date... when that happens the market makers are all smiles as they pull the rug out..... it's slow at first but once panic sets in... timber.... which is fine because eventually it hits bottom and you can do it all over again..... Apple inspires passion....love and hate... which is fine for life but not trading.... trading is different than investing...... funny thing about Apple is it is a great stock to do both..... the first time around when fools were saying Apple $1000 you knew if was time to load up on puts.... in the short term Apple may fall... might even see $105 or G-d helps us $100...... if you have some puts.. then good for you... in the long run $125, $130 or even $150 are gettable... that is Apple

  • Reply to

    Market selloff

    by azz_woopin Jan 27, 2015 9:59 AM
    cardizemcd cardizemcd Jan 27, 2015 10:02 AM Flag

    don't be mad at this situation... it is a game.. Apple is always being manipulated.. of course the stock is going to go down despite $70B in revenue and 70M iPhones sold.. it's the way the stock market works... don't be mad... look at it as a chance to get in Apple at a lower price point....last January when it was crushed 50 points on a $63B quarter everyone was upset... but the smart money loaded up.... don't give an Apple sell off another thought... it's buying time... get in on the sale!!!

  • Reply to

    Apple will go down after earnings

    by cardizemcd Jan 27, 2015 9:54 AM
    cardizemcd cardizemcd Jan 27, 2015 9:56 AM Flag

    a few typo.. typing too fast and did not proof read..
    -in history for a reason
    -makers take it right
    -Don't hate the system
    -as much as you can

  • As a long time Bull this play is nothing but a re-run. Of course Apple is expected to post big numbers. Of course Apple will post big numbers. And of course the stock will go down after hours. If not immediately then tomorrow after it opens up a bit. It is really a simple formula the market makers will make money off of the tremendous positive sentiment behind Apple. It's the same play again and again and again. Apple is the most profitable company in history of a reason. Apple will report the largest quarterly revenue in the history of corporate America. Apple is what it is because it has the best execution of any company in the world today. That has nothing what-so-ever to do with the stock price at this moment in time. The stock will be taken down because that's what happens in the stock market. When everyone is looking left the market makers take this right. Don't the system. Don't be mad. Just use it. No matter what happens Apple will be $120 by the first of May. Book it. So however much they slam the stock smile and scoop up as much as you can't. Don't cry about the manipulation of Apple, etc. etc... It's a game, just play it the way it is meant to be played.

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