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FLASHROB 224 posts  |  Last Activity: 7 hours ago Member since: Apr 2, 1999
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  • I'm so bored with this GM RECALL STUFF...

    just google "gm recall" or somesuch and you'll find a bunch of links...

    oh, well AT LEAST THEY ARE "FESSIN' UP"...won't help their margins though...

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    GOLDMAN/SACHS.....................

    by ballcoach_30 Sep 19, 2014 11:31 AM
    flashrob flashrob 10 hours ago Flag

    if the "f'n" mansion/house/auto plants...ARE ANYWHERE NEAR A "PLACE LIKE DETROIT" ....well the "buildings...LAND" value... are gonna be "pennies on the dollar" of what THEY MIGHT HAVE ONCE BEEN... "BACK IN THE DAY..."

    SO TESLA facilities AIN'T NEAR "DESPERATION VILLE" ..etc....

    so if you near "bankruptcy city" ...even if you PUT THAT MANSION IN TOP SHAPE... you still GOT THE "DRAIN" OF THE LOCAL POPULATION AND POLITICIANS...TO DEAL WITH... all TOO RISKY...

    notice TESLA cut a "nice deal" in Nevada...NO HUGE AMOUNTS OF DESTITUTE PEOPLE surrounding the area...

    gona be NEW "state of the art" FACTORY (ASSET VALUE RING A BELL???)

    all this IS JUST "COMMON SENSE" ...the "spin of numbers this and numbers that" ...MOSTLY "BS" used by people with an old mansion... HYPING a "few good points" THEY CAN MAKE ABOUT IT...

    but the minute I mentioned DETROIT...my roomate...said...nah, maybe it would work... LIKE WOULD I BE WILLING TO GO LIVE OUT THERE AND MANAGE THE PROJECT...because she SURELY WASN'T GONNA ...get involved with Detroit... she said "she just bought another house in Myrtle Beach... and FIXIN' THAT UP...would be keepin' her busy enough...WITHOUT GETTIN' INVOLVED IN "bad neighborhood" stuff...where you can "have this OLD HOUSE" GUYS renovate...BUT IT IS "STILL IN BAD NEIGHBORHOOD" ...with all the political DOLE type pressure of POLS catering to "loads of poor people"...JUST TO RISKY according to her...

    so that's how things ARE and GO ...and are viewed by people with common sense, etc.

    IN A GLANCE...I GOT A "GOOD FEEL" for where TESLA is going vs. a Ford or GM ...now and in the future...

    THAT'S WHY TESLA STOCK Is "valued at the levels" it is ...compared to FORD AND GM STOCK...(BY "BIG MONEY" BY THE WAY....)

    their IS A WORLD OF DIFFERNCE AND VALUE...in owning 500 acres of land near Detroit and 500 acres of land where I live...

  • Reply to

    GOLDMAN/SACHS.....................

    by ballcoach_30 Sep 19, 2014 11:31 AM
    flashrob flashrob 11 hours ago Flag

    ...I recently saw a "mansion" ...like 30 rooms or so... 14 baths...7 bedrooms...and it wasn't in too bad shape...

    looking at it: I guestimated it might be worth 10-15 million...it had beautiful landscaped grounds...

    I THOUGHT ...WOW...WHAT A HOUSE...

    BUT HERE'S THE KICKER... THE "ASKING PRICE" WAS 800K... I thought... there must be some mistake...THEN I SAW "THAT IT WAS LOCATED IN "DETROIT"... got that Detroit...

    so if that MANSION was in California or New Jersey or "just about any decent upscale neighborhood...IT WOULD BE WORTH 10-15 MILLION... (it was in pretty good shape inside and out...like modern updated kitchen, utilities, etc....IT WASN'T THAT IT WASN'T A NICE HOUSE... IT WAS "JUST THE LACK OF DEMAND FOR "WHERE IT WAS"....

    even then I asked one of my roomates ...(she buys foreclosures) and she said too much work...and she didn't want to have to live out in the Detroit area while she turned it over and turned it into a B&B...or "a hq for a foundation" or whatever TO GENERATE CASHFLOW, etc.

    anyway TESLA does not have "loads of assets" in rustbelt or polarville area... ALMOST everything TESLA has compared to GM and Ford ...is new, modern, and has "great potential asset value" compared to GM and Ford...

    if you don't know basic biz...ABOUT ASSESSING "ASSETS, GROWTH POTENTIAL, LIABILILITIES, CASH FLOW, COLLATERAL...all things which "lenders" use to evalute your CREDIT WORTHINESS...well you should take a "common sense biz/economics course" ...something like that...

    TESLA ...can EASILY GET CREDIT compared to a Ford or GM...

    Elons "holdings in the stock" are BILLIONS itself...

    you shorts just keep "dinkin' around with "numbers this and numbers that"

    I, with just common sense...IMMEDIATELY UNDERSTOOD why the "mansion in the Detroit suburbs" is ONLY 800K...when if it was in my area...would be worth over 10 million...

    I don't need to look "at taxes, maintenance...AND COMPARE STATISTICAL DATA...

    if the f'n house IS ANYWHERE NEAR A "DETROIT"....

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    GOLDMAN/SACHS.....................

    by ballcoach_30 Sep 19, 2014 11:31 AM
    flashrob flashrob 11 hours ago Flag

    a. TESLA ...assets... are you kidding???

    b. TESLA plants are "state of the art robotics" with relatively low levels of employees...LET ALONE ...decades of "pension liabilities..." like Ford and GM.

    c. MOST OF TESLA "plant and equipment" is NEW...."

    a comparable analogy would be "an old city like NYC" ...with INFRASTRUCTURE which is huge but OLD...and requires IMMENSE EXPENSES to keep it maintained...let alone even/ever thinking about IF IT COULD EVER BE REPLACED...with new... NOW COMPARE THAT WITH A "RELATIVELY NEW CITY...that has new "infrastructure sewage, water-lines, utilities, etc..........A NEW CITY (There are lots like that in China, for example) vs. an "old city" like NYC, Chicago, LA, etc.

    d. GM and Ford HAVE "OLD PLANTS" ...they are in a "polarville climate" area...whereas THE TESLA FREMONT PLANT ...not only is it MODERN... but it in "one of the best CLIMATE AREAS in the country - check the "climate statistics" for nearby San Francisco...rare snow, rarely hot...even in height of summer...etc. THIS MEANS "LOW UTILITY BILLS" and workers "NOT TAKING SNOW DAYS...etc.

    .............
    on another note: VENTURE CAPITALISTS...BANKS...etc. ...use INTERNAL NON-FLOAT SHARES OF STOCK as "reprentative COLLATERAL"...

    a venture capitalist or credit entity...WHEN COMPAREING TESLA vs. FORD or a GM...take ALL THAT IN CONSIDERATION... to determine "CREDIT WORTHINESS" on which to base financing...THIS IS "ECONOMICS AND BIZ 101" ...ARE YOU THAT NAIVE AND UNINFORMED???

    b. TESLA has "very high mkt cap" loads of stock assets NOT IN THE FLOAT...
    with few debts...or possible debts...LIKE THE HUGE "PENSION LIABILITIES" OF FORD OR GM...

    WHY DO YOU THINK "TESLA STOCK" IS WHERE IT IS ...VS. the "fractional valuations" of Ford and GM stock BY COMPARISON???

    ..........
    I'M not saying Ford can get financing... BUT POTENTIAL "LENDERS" evaluate all their assets/liabilities...and POTENTIAL LIABILITIES...

    ........
    TESLA has LOADS OF GOOD ASSETS...and FEW REAL LIABILITIES...

  • Reply to

    GOLDMAN/SACHS.....................

    by ballcoach_30 Sep 19, 2014 11:31 AM
    flashrob flashrob Sep 19, 2014 4:57 PM Flag

    TESLA has over 30 billion in "mkt cap" ...and "billions" are NOT OUT IN THE FLOAT...

    meaning "those shares" can be used as COLLATERAL for LOW INTEREST loans...from "MOST BANKS"... WHO ARE SITTING ON HOARDS OF CASH THEY CAN'T OR WON'T LOAN TO POOR CREDIT RISK consumers (because of the job situation)...

    or won't "much LOAN to companies LIKE GM OR FORD... anymore BECAUSE OF THEIR "ALREADY HUGE DEBT LOADS...AND LIABILITIES like pensions...

    .........
    this guy is supposed to be a "professional analyst" at Goldman's ...NO WONDER SOME OF THESE ANALYSTS...

    KEEP "GETTING IT WRONG" ...where do they get these MORONS???

    (anyone wish to compare THE LIABILITIES AND DEBT STRUCTURE OF "TESLA COMPARED TO A GM"???)

    ALSO:

    also the TESLA PLANT AND EQUIP... ISN'T IN "POLARVILLE RUSTBELT" with "huge utility bills compared to the "modern Tesla plant" in Fremont...

    so it's not even just "liabilities" ...TESLA COMES OUT WAY AHEAD IN "ASSETS ALSO on a comparative basis...

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    Tesla's HUGE mistake

    by cssaxt Sep 18, 2014 10:30 AM
    flashrob flashrob Sep 18, 2014 10:45 AM Flag

    the MASS MKT has been BECOME THE LOSING MKT...

    most of the jobs that were the mainstay of the "consumer based AMERICAN & EUROPEAN economies...WERE OFFSHORED...by "multinationals".

    a. Visit almost ANY TARGET, SEARS, JCPENNEY, BESTBUY...and "most of the fast fooders"

    and their traffic is DOWN BY 50-70%...ARE YOU GETTIN' THIS "SHORT"...

    THE "MASS MKT" is the STUPIDEST MKT TO BE CHASIN'....

    savvy BIG MONEY knows this: THAT'S WHY TESLA PURSUED "AN UPPER INCOME NICHE MKT"...WHERE people still got GOOD PAYIN' JOBS...OR PLENTY OF MONEY...

    THAT'S THE MKT YOU PURSUE...

    ......................
    THE LUXURY AND EXOTIC CAR MFRS IN EUROPE... LIKE PORSCHE ARE DOING THE BEST FOR THIS REASONS...

    THE LOW-END CONSUMER MKT LIKE "EUROPEAN FORD, GM, VOLKSWAGEN ...ARE DOING THE WORST...gas prices and UNEMPLOYMENT in the "mass class" ARE VERY BAD IN EUROPE...

    .................
    SMART RETAILERS CHASE THE "UPSCALE MKT" ...NOT THE "DECLINING AND "WILL CONTINUE TO DECLINE" "MASS-MAJORITY LARGEST MKT"...

    THE JOBS "AIN'T COMIN' BACK"

    BIG CONSUMER ECONOMIES IN THE "ADVANCED WESTERN ECONOMIES" HAVE NO FUTURE BUT DOWN...

    they will be replaced by CONSUMER ECONOMIES IN CHINA, SOUTH AMERICA, EASTERN EUROPE...ETC.

    ............
    TAKE A COURSE IN ECONOMiCS... do you really think SOME "HACK SPECULATIVE FINANCIAL WRITER" knows MORE THAN ELON... (Elon knows way more...and IS DOING IT...)

  • flashrob flashrob Sep 17, 2014 4:50 PM Flag

    SURE GOT YOUR ATTENTION, NOW...DIDN'T IT!

  • flashrob flashrob Sep 17, 2014 4:33 PM Flag

    we been get "the warnings" FROM SHORTS for "well over a year now"

    keep them "warnings" COMING... stock is doing GREAT with 'em....

    and new...better...stronger news keeps coming out about TESLA... guess you shorts will have to "step up the WARNINGS PACE!"

  • I GUESS SOMETHINGS "are meant TO JUST KEEP GOING UP"...even with the little phony pullbacks...

    YOU DIDN'T REALLY THINK "OIL WAS GOING TO TANK...DID YOU???"

  • so here's CHINA leading the way IN PURE EV ...enthusiasm and support...

    google this:

    Beijing Hosts Debut of Formula E as Engines Whir Rather Than Roar

    (and click on top link... good read SHOWS YOU WHERE CHINA IS GOING AND WHAT THEY THINK... also mentions NEED for plenty of "ELEC SUPERCHARGER STATIONS" ...WHICH...OF COURSE... "ELON IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF!"

    YEP...THE NEWS JUST "KEEPS GETTING "BETTER AND BETTER" FOR TESLA!!!

  • flashrob flashrob Sep 15, 2014 9:57 AM Flag

    big boys ARE SELLING... to "get a big NETFULL" of shorts...

    just the "old periodic cyclical SUCK IN A BUNCH OF AMATEUR SHORTS...

    then BACK UP WE GO...

    this is the pattern...

    .....................
    good bargain prices while "we drop back a bit like this" ...dollar cost average ...won't go to low...

    ................
    anyway I got other things to do today... TESLA nothin' to worry about here... just routine "short skinning' being SETUP by "big money players..."

  • so I think that's why I think things are a "bit quiet" here with Tesla...

    but after they get that "bit of short housekeeping" done there, the big money will be back to their "mainstay focus" on Tesla...

    that's my tale on today's Tesla action...

  • flashrob flashrob Sep 12, 2014 8:59 AM Flag

    oh, just a "semi-geek" note...

    on these POSTS in general...

    I use an "add-on extension" in Firefox... called "hard-refresh" ...that's because when I post...something...the normal "refresh" most people USE ...doesn't FULLY REFRESH... because the "cache" for the webpage OFTEN USES "a high-percentage" of OUTDATED DATA..............they do this to "speed up your webpage access...BUT UNFORTUNATELY this means "you may not see your post" or latest responses UNLESS YOU DO "A COMPLETE REFRESH" ...AND THE "NORMAL RELOAD BUTTON "DOESN'T DO THIS...

    I can tell because "often when I post something" it DOESN'T APPEAR...until I do a "hard refresh"

    ....
    (I'm a bit of a semi-geek...like do and use linux, etc.") so that's why I figure out "odd little things like this, etc." ...anyway THAT'S A SIGNIFCANT POINT for NOT JUST HERE ON THE TESLA BLOG POST BOARD...BUT APPLIES "TO ALMOST ANY WEBPAGE YOU ACCESS"...so I often "hit hard refresh button that "I customized to appear by "selectively adding various add-on extensions to my toolbar...I mostly used Firefox...and altered their "programming code" to SUPED that UP to run faster... but that's a bit technical to explain how to do that level of tweaking, etc .)

  • ARE YOU GOING TO BE THE "BAGHOLDER???"

    smart money "shorters" are QUIETLY "headin' for the exits" ...leaving you likely TO "BE HOLDIN' THE BAG...

    google this:

    Tesla Shorts Continue To Flee

    it's the "top link" ...article includes STATISTICAL CHART... to give "shorts" ANOTHER DOSE OF "REALITY!"

  • flashrob flashrob Sep 12, 2014 8:19 AM Flag

    by the way AND "THIS IS NOT A PREDICTION"

    THE TEMPERATURE IN ONE AREA OF "THE STATE OF WYOMING" IS 19F (NOT WINDCHILL...THE ACTUAL TEMP...(I get this from gov wx system)

    now SEE IF YOU CAN FIND "A WEATHER FORECASTER WHO PREDICTED THAT LEVEL OF TEMP FOR WYOMING... a couple of weeks or so, ago...

    so SO MUCH FOR PREDICTIONS/FORECASTS...

    ......I don't know the exact locations and timing...BUT I CAN PREDICT..."this winter" WILL BE ONE OF THE "WORST ONES" ON RECORD...far worse than "last year"...according to my sources who "are very accurate" at least in the general stuff I get from them, etc.

    all this is "not my problem or issue anyway" ... but I'm glad I don't "live in Polarville" (the NorthCentral U.S. that got hammered last winter...

    or Georgia or the Carolinas... looks LIKE WE'LL BE GETTIN' WHAT WE GOT "LAST WINTER" ONLY "PROBABLY MUCH WORSE..."

    I live in NJ ...so I don't expect much worse than the "relatively mild winter" we had last winter...

    but "where and what you got LAST WINTER... I'M EXPECTIN' "THE SAME AREAS AND PRETTY MUCH THE SAME WEATHER...only "make it a BIT WORSE...that's what I'm gettin'

    don't like it...I don't like so many people gettin' whacked... but I can't do anything about that...other than NO WHERE "NOT TO BE" myself, etc....

  • flashrob flashrob Sep 12, 2014 8:03 AM Flag

    it ALREADY "SNOWED" in "rapid city, south dakoto" AND THAT'S NOT UP IN THE MOUNTAINS...and it's still summer... MY POINT IS:

    NO FORECASTER has "a crystal ball" THAT'S "FOOLPROOF"...

    most FORECASTERS... "back in the day" FREQUENTLY PREDICTED "HENRY FORD WOULD FAIL" due to "much GREATER ISSUES" than TESLA has to deal with... (like FEW PAVED ROADS, for example...)

    if YOU LOOK AT "MANY ISSUES" IN THE WORLD TODAY... FORECASTERS are "more often WRONG"

    because "reality like the WEATHER" ...for example COULD CARE LESS "ABOUT WHAT FORECASTERS THINK...

    forecasters mostly JUST SPECULATE and are "somewhat successful" in predicting the obvious...LIKE WINTER IS COMING and "we forecast MAYBE SOME OCCASIONAL SNOW...etc.

    but specifically there "snow forecasts ARE ABOUT WORTHLESS...unless IT INVOLVES JUST A "DAY OR TWO" ...

    so tellin' us and predictin' ISSUES ABOUT TESLA "that are months/years out in the future"

    is like the weatherman predictin' WHETHER IT'S GOING TO "SNOW OR NOT" ...SPECIFICALLY...in a few weeks... I CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT ...for reasons I can't go into at this time...

  • google this:

    why-musk-is-building-batteries-in-a-desert-when-no-one-is-buying.html

    it's the "top link" on the page that comes up....

  • google this:

    wp-content/bsj10/200109/The-original-list.htm

    it's the top link... it's one of my favorites... but I WOULDN'T SHARE IT WITH THE "WIFEY" or you'll be in the "doghouse" I'm thinkin'...

  • flashrob flashrob Sep 11, 2014 5:41 PM Flag

    I bet Musk's "guzzler HOTLINE" is "ringing off the wall" WITH OVERTURES from other "guzzlers" AROUND THE WORLD... trying to make get some kind of "under-the-table partnership/promise/deal WITH TESLA... before "some other Guzzler" GETS TOO SOLID A DEAL OR RELATIONSHIP WITH TESLA...etc.

    you don't REALLY THINK what YOU HEAR on "public news" IS MORE THAN A BIT OF "TOKEN WINK WHIFF" of WHAT REALLY GOES ON BETWEEN "CEO To CEO" etc....do you???... are you that NAIVE???

  • flashrob flashrob Sep 11, 2014 5:34 PM Flag

    why DON'T YOU FOCUS ON THE "PROBABLY LIES" over decades from BIG GUZZLER...

    those LIES are gonna HAVE BIG IMPACT ON "BOTTOM LINE" ...like 29million RECALLS...

    Toyota partnership ...will come... can't be ANY OTHER WAY... as "noose keeps tightening" on BIG GUZZLERS...WORLDWIDE...

    so I would expect that TOYOTA... is likely to be first "to cut TRANSITION deal with Tesla" AND A BIG ONE... just not likely they want to "ruffle the feathers" OF OTHER COMPETING BIG GUZZLERS... just yet... by showing they "workin' on INVEVITABLE SURVIVAL OF BIG AUTO that has to "partner with Tesla" to SURVIVE ...going a few years down-the-road...

    THAT'S ABOUT THE "SIZE OF THIS" ...

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