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HE9412 38 posts  |  Last Activity: Mar 24, 2015 12:53 PM Member since: Jun 2, 1998
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  • he9412 by he9412 Mar 24, 2015 12:53 PM Flag

    Is the yahoo info correct that the CEO makes over $40M/year base salary?

    This number sounds absurd and hopefully is incorrect.
    I personally don't trust companies that overpay leaders by such an excessive amount

    Sentiment: Hold

  • he9412 he9412 Feb 26, 2015 12:14 PM Flag

    I do read the economist but expect that I am an exception on the board.
    Predicting stock prices in the short term is about as accurate is fortune telling.
    Most here are likely self-interested or paid shorts/pumpers; pretty sad the information content.

    Sentiment: Buy

  • Reply to

    Is SODA a Bankruptcy?

    by kennyjcal Feb 25, 2015 12:04 PM
    he9412 he9412 Feb 25, 2015 1:00 PM Flag

    It is a carbonation system and also makes seltzer (flavored or plain).

    Stock prices are in the eye of the beholder. Shorting was a good idea at $70. Remember that not long ago net flix was selling at $60 and quickly bounced back to ~$500. Hard to predict what will happen.

    Sentiment: Buy

  • Reply to

    Wash Sale

    by deadairez Nov 26, 2014 12:14 PM
    he9412 he9412 Nov 26, 2014 12:29 PM Flag

    better to buy more now and sell the current stock 30 days from now. still a few days left. All comes down to IRS interpretation.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Now its wait for the new CEO to

    by wlk1148 Jun 25, 2014 10:57 AM
    he9412 he9412 Aug 12, 2014 12:03 PM Flag

    Providing free internet to poor people is a positive investment in my opinion, helping less fortunate people have a shot at the American dream. Sure its not curing cancer, but why pick one or the other.

    If you are looking for meaningful investments, check out THOR which makes artificial hearts and selling at a nice discount too with the recent selloff.

    Sentiment: Buy

  • Reply to

    any value?

    by raggwead Aug 7, 2014 5:44 PM
    he9412 he9412 Aug 7, 2014 6:47 PM Flag

    Profitable growing company. I think this was a particularly egregious oversell and bought more.
    My last buy was a few years ago so doing pretty fine despite this hiccup.

    Personally I feel good about investing in companies that make artificial hearts, as I know a few people
    who probably will need to use one someday.

    Sentiment: Buy

  • Reply to

    As expected

    by salpleasego Aug 5, 2014 8:15 AM
    he9412 he9412 Aug 5, 2014 6:51 PM Flag

    Apparently, I don't understand what a troll means. I thought it was someone that posts constantly being paid to do so. Certainly I am not very good at such as I post about once a year.

    My point was that I believe that you are missing the big picture. Thinking strategically is more important than thinking tactically, unless you are a day trader, which I don't believe is the case. It is best to buy after the fall rather than before and sell during the euphoria).

    I am not trying to defend yet another (way) overpaid and under performing CEO. Sadly this is status quo for the entire stock market.

    This will be my last comment on this board. I highly doubt it will be yours.

  • Reply to

    As expected

    by salpleasego Aug 5, 2014 8:15 AM
    he9412 he9412 Aug 5, 2014 10:30 AM Flag

    It's called a recession. Until the hiring boom starts (any year now), things will remain like this.
    Management could do better, sure. Patience is the key to investing.

    Sentiment: Buy

  • Any guesses as to when the company profits go from negative to positive?
    The analysts predict next year.
    I'm assuming one or two more negative quarters here.

    Once (if) the corner is turned, the stock price should pick up.

    Sentiment: Buy

  • he9412 by he9412 Jul 24, 2014 12:09 PM Flag

    While it is nice to know that hedge funds are interested in buoy SODA, there is no way that I would settle for $40 share despite having paid less than that for my shares. This seems like highway robbery for the loyal shareholders who believe in the company.

    With positive cash on hand and growing sales, why settle for a token value just because some shorts managed to push the stock down for a few months?

  • he9412 he9412 Jun 3, 2014 12:58 PM Flag

    Any evidence to back this up?
    This would make a lot of sense, but I'm not one to believe in rumors.

    Sentiment: Buy

  • The daily range went from $12.13 (low)to $13.51(high).
    However, I don't see on the chart anywhere that the price dropped below $13.03.
    Any ideas of how this is possible or how to see individual trades to figure out what happened?

    Sentiment: Buy

  • Reply to


    by felixangelcer May 1, 2013 3:27 PM
    he9412 he9412 May 1, 2013 5:39 PM Flag

    Cancelling a stock does NOT mean that stockholders will get nothing.
    This may in fact be the case, but typically there is a small percentage that goes to the shareholders in a bankruptcy. Typically this is done to prevent the corporate board and CEO from destroying even more value from the bondholders, i.e. legal blackmail.

    This was the case of Visteon corporation in the recent past, and is actually pretty typical in bankruptcy cases where there are significant assets controlled by the company like EK.

    However, in this case, because EK went to the courts when they had money rather than negotiating with the bondholders up front, there might be nothing for the shareholders. If true, this would be yet more proof in the incompetence of the current CEO and board in failing to do their job of protecting their shareholders.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Does anyone think that this will pass congress in a non-neutered form?
    If it does, any thoughts on the likely impact to BBY?

    Sentiment: Buy

  • he9412 by he9412 Mar 28, 2013 12:49 PM Flag

    I find it strange that I get a couple hundred page bundle in the mail just a few days before the scheduled vote. In it, I can't (quickly) find the basic answers that most people making a decision like this would want to know.

    My read is that:
    A. I get a couple bucks a share (highlighted over and over) that I have to pay taxes on for a company that I don't want to sell.
    B. I get a 25% stake in a highly leveraged company

    My questions, if anyone knows the answer:
    1. How much cash (not counting loans) is T-mobile pumping into the joint venture?
    2. What is the anticipated value of the merged company and based on what assumptions?
    3. How/why will the merger benefit the company?

    Unless I can digest the 200+ pages and am happy with the answer, I will probably be inclined to vote no.

    I believe that the current company is undervalued, which is why I own it. They are profitable and growing with little debt, so I don't understand why they want to burden the company with a huge new debt. If they returned at least most of the current market value in cash or we retained most/all of the new company as shareholders, I could be inclined to vote in favor.

    Ironically, I wouldn't mind buying bonds for PCS at 6%, if they weren't about to overload it to the point that it could potentially go under.

    I guess for now I'll keep reading. At least the date may have been extended (I need to confirm this still).

    Sentiment: Buy

  • he9412 he9412 Feb 13, 2013 1:13 PM Flag

    Asprin seems largely irrelevant to the HVAD discussion, since I would expect that most (likely all) recipients would be put on coumiden as a blood thinner which is much more effective. This is also true of many people with various heart problems or with any foreign material in the blood stream. e.g. stents. Plavix the new class of new blood thinners including pradaxa not requiring INR monitoring are also available today in the US with prescription. Any of these would likely be a better choice than aspirin for the longer term.

    Discloser: long THOR and other heart companies

    Sentiment: Buy

  • This is most unfortunate. Losing some short term revenue points out the need for investment diversification.

    I agree with the management decision on the dividend suspension until the situation stabilizes. No need to risk the companies future over a short term problem.

    Money can be made back with time, unlike people or pets or priceless items lost by people in the storms.

  • Reply to


    by brian.do47 Apr 15, 2011 11:25 AM
    HE9412 HE9412 Apr 15, 2011 3:44 PM Flag

    Likely it is manipulated.

    The question is whether or not there is some basis to the price jump. Perhaps it is insider trading, and the price will jump on significant upcoming news (like a buyout), or maybe it is some sort of price pumping effort in which case it will likely fall somewhat.

    Alternately, it is plausible that the stock is about to be added to an index or be recommended by an analyst who wants to profit from their own predictions.

    I'm long on the stock. I'm considering selling with the nice runup, but I do like the long term company and business segment prospects so I see little downside to riding this out to see.

    Anyone out there have any real info to explain this?

  • Reply to

    VZ shareholder I'm OUTA HERE

    by sulkysam Jul 2, 2010 1:47 PM
    HE9412 HE9412 Jul 4, 2010 1:22 AM Flag

    No kidding... the dividend sucks on this stock.

    just kidding of course.

    It is best to get such people out of this stock rather than have then badmouth it while claiming ignorance.

  • Reply to

    Does anyone trade the B shares?

    by richardboy316 Mar 16, 2010 5:23 PM
    HE9412 HE9412 Mar 17, 2010 12:13 PM Flag

    I own only B shares. The better question is why anyone would by an A share when they cost more and are inferior in every way?

    If you own A shares, I recommend buying B shares to replace at lower cost and then waiting a month and then selling the A shares. If your shares are above water like mine, you don't need to wait the month (for tax purposes to claim a loss).

    You might not need the month since they are different investments, but I wouldn't take a chance with the IRS... If in doubt, ask an accountant.

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