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PVYY 9 posts  |  Last Activity: Apr 15, 2014 10:38 AM Member since: Jun 30, 1999
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  • Reply to

    35% short

    by a1shub Apr 15, 2014 10:08 AM
    pvyy pvyy Apr 15, 2014 10:38 AM Flag

    Shorters kept spreading out unconfirmed news to push down HLF, it will only create temp effect to pull down the price level, we all know it's almost impossible to shot down MLM, once it starts to squeeze the short, it won't be just $10, from 82 to 52, that is $30, plus more to bounce back. Shorters thought they are playing limbo dance right now, once music stop and game changed, they will find out it is high jump, not limbo.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • If FBI really conducted the investigation action as what medias described, I will say this is a no-brain action. There is no doubt about it that FBI should accept investigation request from either senator or anybody else, but they should do their jobs quietly, before they get the result,

    Think about this way, if someone randomly accuse a restaurant to provide a poison food, then the officers just show around for investigations, will the customer come in to eat? No matter the result of the investigation is true or false, the restaurant will be damaged for sure. This kind of accuse will be happened to any company in Wall Street. Who will be the victim? Who should be protected? How FBI should protect the victim technically? Technically!!!!!!!!!!

    Based on this lousy game theory, you can see how smart Ackman played the games and profit from them before. Where is real fair justice???

  • Reply to

    Just bought 1k at 51.50

    by fluteman_greg Apr 11, 2014 3:59 PM
    pvyy pvyy Apr 11, 2014 4:30 PM Flag

    I wish I have more money to buy HLF now. Look at this short attack, it looks like a setup, the attack start from a news with no details and one hour before market close, so people don't have enough time to digest the news. Plus, it's the weekend and just a few days before tax due date, people needs to prepare more cash for tax. What a coincidence for the timing of this attack.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    #$%$ is going on?

    by bubbapink13 Apr 11, 2014 3:39 PM
    pvyy pvyy Apr 11, 2014 3:47 PM Flag

    Big volume in a short time, look like someone dumped the stock. Must be a big one.

  • pvyy pvyy Mar 17, 2014 5:38 PM Flag

    MLM business is not new. If it is illegal, it would be stopped long time before. Whoever questions about MLM system is just to repeat the same questions. Trying to mess up the regulation about MLM from here and from now is not going to solve the problem, but will create more problems.

    There is no selling system is perfect, even point of sell system has it's own drawbacks too. Can you forbid the people to buy a product if they don't promise they are going to use it for themselves? MLM customers are not just end users, they can be sellers too. There is no limitation for their customers to be as 100% end users or 100% sellers. For those hedge fund or shorter tried to attack MLM companies, in order to benefit their own investment, is so wrong, so misleading. There is no way to forbid the people to buy more stuffs than what they need, if they are either buyer and seller. This is gray area. We all know it is gray, why needs to force it to be white or black? Leave the choice to people. Don't assume the people are all stupid. FTC should help to clear out the regulation again and stop the speculators try to benefit from messing up the market again and again.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • I won't be surprised why their earning fell, just based on my experience to deal with HSBC:

    1. I have 700K mortgage from HSBC, 2.5K payment per month to HSBC.
    2. I have more than 100K buy by HSBC credit card, with 120K award point.
    3. I was their premiere customer before,
    4. I used to be able to transfer the money in/out to/from HSBC home equity account on the same day.

    Why I think HSBC will fall?

    1. They move their mortgage business to their child company, which is at east coast, so if you want to withdraw the money from your equity account, they'll tell you it will take 5 business day normally, They will hold your big amount money for a couple days too. See how much more interest you will waste.

    2. If you pay back your load by mail or ACH from west coast to east coast, it will take about 3 business days too. If you want to be faster, they charge you wiring fee. Or, you can go to their branch, spend about two hours to complete the transaction by HSBC to HSBC internal process.

    What a move! They changed their Hi-Tech mortgage service back to manual process like 20 years ago. Are they back to the era before they moved out from Hongkong?

    3. Their credit card award points need to be redeemed through their agency, the award product price is much higher than what you can buy it from the market by your own money. What a stingy award they give out.

    4. If you don't park $100K into your HSBC bank account, they will charge you $50 a month or move you out from their VIP(Premere) account, no matter how much of your mortgage or credit card business with them.

    I feel HSBC likes to deal with dummy money. But, how can a small business grow up if you always leave your $100K money in bank? If compare with Citi, BOA, Wells Fargo, or Chase, HSBC had a very stupid move to change their business. A dummy bankers deals with dummy customers with dummy money in their dummy accounts in HSBC.

    That's why I think HSBC will come down.

    Sentiment: Sell

  • Reply to

    heard on CNBC a few minutes ago

    by eyemurdaddy2 Feb 3, 2014 3:49 PM

    What I see is the guy, I don't even want to mention his name, made a sparkle, and CNBC tried to add some gasoline to make it shine.

  • pvyy pvyy Jan 28, 2014 12:47 PM Flag

    Once a product is sold, it's either to be used, or to be sold to another person. If sellers keep it as inventory, it's either to be kept as their assets and use it in the future, or they can decide not to keep it and return for refund. I don't see what's wrong with it. Even in point of sell system, sellers can refuse the return, should they get to be probed? It doesn't matter for their business model, but it does matter for those greedy stock investor trying to bring down the stock price on purpose and fulfill their short sell profit.

  • Reply to

    Ackman met with Senator's staff

    by carl_screwed Jan 23, 2014 10:30 AM
    pvyy pvyy Jan 23, 2014 10:57 AM Flag

    What I can see is a greedy Wall Street guy tried to destroy MLM industry for his own profit. Now he is protecting his own bet. Think about it, how many people are working for MLM? How many people will lost their jobs if MLM is destroyed? Just use your #$%$ to think about it, you should get the answer.

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