"Note that I have NEVER said MON is trying to build biorefineries"
You know that's pure BS, you've said it over and over. Everyone in DuPont Ag knows Monsanto is not interested in bio-fuels, everyone EXCEPT YOU. DuPont gambled and bet the farm on bio-fuels - you were crowing about this just a few years ago.
Monsanto won't have to write-off a costly venture in the UK that BP has already bailed out, you know the one turning wheat into fuel?
Get back to your glorified bag dumping job and offer to work for fast food wages if you want to help DuPont move forward.
Oh and please bring back your alias funfun-too so we can laugh more.
Nice try, smart!
Using your doppelganger alias of me again!
Too bad Yahoo doesn't clean up goofballs like you!
The REAL aggie
I've never charged you with using aliases. Smart's alias, who posts under my name look-a-like, is who's accusing you. Maybe you should answer his posts with "smart" to tell him you know who he is.
Please check your numbers. Yahoo web site shows 52,000 employees when you look it up under Yahoo Profile:
Index Membership: N/A
Sector: Basic Materials
Industry: Chemicals - Major Diversified
Full Time Employees: 52,030
According to Yahoo, DuPont has 70,000 employees, Dow has 52,000. Not sure where you got the 10 times bigger? DuPont has scores of contractors, see them every day. Cheap wages, no benefits, and Obamacare once their employee pays the fine in 2015 and dumps them into exchanges. Nobody likes the shift from employees to contractors nor should they, but both companies has moved that way. I can assure DuPont's financials are NOT strong. Why else did they switch to non-GAAP earnings (other than to hide about $2 Billion in losses from one failed Ag product alone called Imprelis that killed thousands of evergreens in its 1st and only year on the market). The grass may not be green on your side of the fence but I can assure you its parched brown on the other side, only DuPont does a good job of spray painting it green to make it look pretty, like those places in Cali during a drought and watering restrictions. DuPont's massive failure was to sell Conoco in the late 1990s when oil was under $20/barrel. DuPont would be as strong as BASF if it still had Conoco and had better bosses. I don't recall Dow every being as big and strong as DuPont was pre-1990s. It's a matter of how far you fall, and DuPont has certainly fallen a long way in 25 years.
You guys whine about Liveris but he's not 1/10th as bad as the leaders that ran DuPont into the swamp these past 15 years. I don't recall Dow being a 150,000 employee some 20 years ago when DuPont was over twice the size of Dow. You should tell your CEO not to waste trying to be the next DuPont when DuPont is a broken down old mule.
funfundvierzig, who is really arguing with you here about the wasted hundreds of millions blown on Biofools or that Imprelis has nearly broken the Ag business?
Time to quit repeating points that everyone here agrees about with you.
Nice try again, Funfundvierzig! Using your alias of me ONCE AGAIN while also LYING about not agreeing with me from time to time. You are some kind of dork, even when you are correct some of the time.
To be fair, Funfundvierzig has given everyone some good buy and sell tips, like buying MON when it dipped under $50. I made a fortune on that buy. And I sold every share of DuPont once "Funfun" told us about Peltz and his pumping DD shares up only for a short time till he gets his pay-off from Kullman.
Funfundvierzig, it's not like we always disagree with you. When have we complained about Imprelis and its massive charges or "Kullman Koolant" and the hundreds of millions #$%$ away on that invention? You DO need to balance your criticism with occasional praise to be taken more seriously.
Again, we agree with you far often than not.
And has Monsanto NEVER done anything wrong? Please give us one example and we'll retreat from the message board for a week.
Tell us, Funfundvierzig, tell us!
You can be sure Dow is far better run, even with these announcements, than DuPont. As a overpaid bag dumper, even you can smell the stench from 15 years of #$%$ management.
Get back to work and quit slutting around
Zig, I'll also admit that I actually FAILED FoF's test when I couldn't say a single bad thing about Ellen or even Chad! After some consideration this afternoon, I would like to get started early on my NY's resolution - no more lying behind message board aliases. Will you join me? You've been caught in lies too. You did admit going to Aberdeen and now lie that you didn't. Either you lied then or now. Yes, I've been a DuPont Ag manager for some years now and even once made PFOA if you believe me! Notice I how I never complain about you and your Teflon exposes. You know I can't complain often about DuPont lest I get exposed and fired like you did for bad-mouthing the company. I borrowed my wife's computer to write this post just so I wouldn't be traced. Now please quit ignoring us and we'll be nice to you.
The only ones believing the line of bull coming from Ellen's mouth are Blind one and Meister. Once the #$%$ about rynaxypyr hits the fan, you'll see that bad things happen in threes. Read the fact sheet on it.
You can say that again and again. Solae is so F-ed up that Bunge dumped its share before the whole thing crashes to the ground. POS is putting it nicely.
Forgot to add that the DuPont track record is that other companies buy DuPont trash and then turn them around, eventually making DuPont leaders look really stupid.
And let's not forget WHO'S Pioneer's daddy?
Most DuPont and Pioneer Ag employees know Monsanto's king and DuPont/Pioneer is the court jester.
"DuPont Co will pay Monsanto Co at least $1.75 billion in a new licensing deal and both companies have agreed to dissolve their bitter legal battles over rights to technology for genetically modified seeds.
DuPont will make at least $1.75 billion in royalty payments over several years in exchange for broad access to Monsanto's leading genetic technology for the development of new agricultural seed products."
La Porte Texas site is a dump. Glad to see that go. Too bad DuPont won't be able to spin off the $2 billion in losses it will swallow after Imprelis settlements are doled out.
"Pioneer is picking up more and more market share each year "
Clearly NOT Monsanto, I can say for sure. There a number of smaller seeds companies being picked up by Pioneer and Monsanto, which accounts for the "picking up" more market share. Organic growth? Ain;'t happening and you know it!
Meister your consulting career was stagnant and forgettable. DuPont was dumb enough to employ you for too long. You must have been replaced by a black woman too.