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    NVIDIA Will Fully Implement Async Compute

    by amdoomed Sep 6, 2015 11:25 AM
    amdoomed amdoomed Sep 6, 2015 11:31 AM Flag

    AMDTriple is DOA, he a Brainless Pumper, I Slapped him Silly when he flooded this board with his AMD MOBILE GPU BS when in FACT AMD SOLD its Mobile GPU IP to Qualcom, NOW this Pump Puppet Spews Async BS, Well ITS BUSTED BS AGAIN!!! Get a Life AMDTriple Moron and STOP SPEWING BS!!!!

    from a friend of the Facts

    Tech review sites really need to step up too -- I get that some don't focus on the low end, technical stuff -- but the fact that I have to go to some forum and read through amd/nvidia fanboy nonsense for 70 pages in order to even understand what is happening, is bull****. I really miss Anand from Anandtech. The guy would have had a 10 page breakdown of the entire architecture, what's occurring, why it's occurring, with actual developer commenting on it. But since Ryan or whoever sold it to Tom's hardware, that site has literally turned into a giant ****ing billboard of advertising garbage. There is more ad space then article space on that site now. Anyway I'm ranting, but it's frustrating. People keep posting their uneducated, uninformed opinions based on what some armchair googling nerd thinks is happening. I'm not going to pretend to understand how the Async design between AMD/Nvidia's architecture differ. I'm going to pretend that I know why AMD or Nvidia's implementation is better or worse. What I do know and can see is the performance of both one specific title, that tests a specific part of the card, and they are EQUAL. So the fanboy circle jerk of "Nvidia is better" or "AMD is better" can end now.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Async BS BUSTED ! AMD & NVIDIA EQUAL in Performance BUT AMD GPUs SUCK Watts Run Hotter and have MUCH LESS OCing Headroom. AMD DOOMED

    The Beyond3D thread for that test has completely changed from an Nvidia ASync thread to an AMD latency thread. There are multiple posts/developers talking about AMD's Async latency in that thread. Is it a problem? No I don't think it is, but neither is Nvidia's solution to the same problem. Like you can sit here and say "Nvidia's implementation of ASync is wrong, its serial, etc, blah blah" it's irrelevant. It's irrelevant because in a test that sends a 1000x more draw calls you'll see in any real game, Nvidia's solution matches AMD's in performance.

    And lets be real, if Nvidia/Oxide are claiming that Nvidia is going to fix this in driver, does it really matter if it's software or hardware? I highly doubt Nvidia is going to release a driver that either cripples performance, or side-grades it.

    Again people keep talking about the implementation, they talk about the method being used, etc, but they completely ignore the final result, which is what everyone should care about -- the performance. In AOS @ 1080P through 4K the difference in performance between a 980Ti and Fury X is negligible. They essentially perform the same. And the game is literally designed to be a draw call benchmark. Its not a real insight to how DX12 will perform in an actual title. Proof of this is that the 290x and the 980 perform nearly identically to a Fury X/980Ti. Obviously this game isn't testing a graphics cards performance, it's testing the bottleneck of the scheduler.

    What annoys me is that aside from PC Perspective's podcast and Hilbert (through multiple posts) no one is talking about this. Everyone is just circle jerking eachother about a bunch of irrelevant bull****. 3 Days ago there was a post on Reddit that was like "CONFIRMED, NVIDIA DOESN'T SUPPORT DX12 ASYNC SHADERS" now today, there is "OXIDE CONFIRMS NVIDIA SUPPORTS ASYNC".

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    Sentiment: Strong Sell

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    Maxwell GTX980 Annihilating AMD 290X ! AMDoomed !

    by amdoomed Mar 3, 2015 5:07 PM
    amdoomed amdoomed Sep 5, 2015 7:04 PM Flag

    NVIDIA's growing ecosystem of products and features
    In the past, graphics cards were largely sold based on two factors: price and performance. But over the last few years, NVIDIA has been expanding the services and features exclusive to owners of its hardware, essentially building a sort of ecosystem around its cards.

    GameStream Co-Op is the latest example, but just one in a long running series of advances. NVIDIA's Shield hardware -- which has included a tablet, handheld game console, and Android TV set-top box -- supports remote game streaming, allowing owners of NVIDIA's graphics cards to stream their PC games over the Internet to a corresponding Shield device -- a Shield set-top box attached to a TV in the den, perhaps, or a Shield tablet in a hotel room.

    NVIDIA's G-Sync technology improves graphical fidelity when one of NVIDIA's cards is paired with a compatible G-Sync monitor. NVIDIA has also rolled out features that make it easier for owners of its cards to record and share gameplay (called Shadowplay), including broadcasting live to Twitch. In addition to GameStream Co-Op, its latest update includes support for YouTube -- NVIDIA gamers will soon be able to upload their recorded clips directly to the video platform.

    NVIDIA is dominating AMD
    NVIDIA's share of the graphics card market has surged in recent quarters. According to a recent report from John Peddie Research, NVIDIA's cards accounted for more than 81% of the graphics cards sold last quarter. That's up from 62% in the same quarter last year.

    Given that the graphics card market is a duopoly, NVIDIA's gains have come at the expense of its sole rival, AMD. Demand for AMD's cards has tumbled, as its market share has fallen from 37.9% in the second quarter last year to just 18% last quarter.

    AMD has mimicked many of NVIDIA's advances -- in place of G-Sync, it offers FreeSync; in place of Shadowplay, it offers Game DVR -- but these updates have come only months after NVIDIA's. Even then, AMD has not managed to fully keep pace -- it has no Shield equivalent.

    Updates like GameStream Co-Op may seem relatively insignificant, but overall, these features help set NVIDIA's cards apart from AMD's. With its market share surging, PC gamers clearly care.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

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    AMD Radeon R9 Nano Faster than GeForce GTX 980

    by usforced Aug 30, 2015 2:09 AM
    amdoomed amdoomed Aug 30, 2015 10:02 AM Flag


    LOL, that why Debt Doomed AMD CAN NOT be Trusted and has ONLY 18% of the dGPU market!

    LOL, that why Debt Doomed AMD CAN NOT be Trusted and has ONLY 8% of the CPU market!

    Absolute BS AMD NEVER Walks its Hype Pumping Talk, each and every AMD CPU APU GPU was Pumped Full of Propaganda and ended up a EPIC FAIL.

    Wait for INDEPENDENT Reviewers to EXPOSE AMD Lies AGAIN!


    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • amdoomed amdoomed Aug 25, 2015 8:02 PM Flag

    You AMDuped SUCKERS Learn to Read, GPUs = 16nm from TSMC, Microprocessors = 14nm from Glofo

    "the company (AMD) will order 14nm microprocessors from GlobalFoundries, whereas TSMC will concentrate on manufacturing of next-generation AMD Radeon GPUs code-named “Greenland” and other using 16nm FinFET process.

    NVIDIA is doing the same except its 14nm Microprocessors are from Samsung


    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • amdoomed amdoomed Aug 23, 2015 11:22 AM Flag

    Advanced Micro Devices (NASDAQ:AMD) has played second fiddle to NVIDIA (NASDAQ:NVDA) in the discrete graphics card market for years. Up until about a year ago, AMD was still putting up respectable numbers; during the second quarter of 2014, the company shipped about 40% of all discrete graphics cards.

    Since then, AMD has been bleeding market share. In September of last year, NVIDIA launched some disruptive products, the GTX 970 and GTX 980, beginning a trend of market share losses for AMD that has yet to let up. During the first quarter of 2015, AMD's share of the discrete graphics card market had declined to just 22.5%, according to Jon Peddie Research.

    New graphics cards from AMD launched in June, both a series of rebrands as well as brand new high-end products. But according to numbers from Mercury Research, NVIDIA won even more market share from AMD during the second quarter. AMD's market share has now fallen to just 18%.

    With AMD's discrete graphics card market share cut in half over the past year, and with those share losses accelerating during the second quarter amid an extremely weak PC market, the situation is looking dire for AMD.


    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Nvidia dominating in add-in graphics card market, AMD floundering

    AMD's place in the add-in graphics card market has been slipping for years. That trend looks to have continued over the past quarter, with the latest numbers suggesting it’s lost another near-5 percent of the market to its main rival, Nvidia.

    These numbers come straight from the latest John Peddie Research report (via PCper) and it gives AMD just 18 percent of the current graphics card market. Nvidia in contrast, has a full 81.9 percent, with Matrox just sneaking in there at the end with 0.1 percent.

    AMD has been behind Nvidia in terms of sheer GPU adoption numbers for years though, so why are these numbers so significant? Because just three months ago, AMD’s share was closer to a quarter, at 22.5 percent. This time last year, it was higher still, with 37.9 percent of the overall discrete GPU market.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • amdoomed amdoomed Aug 19, 2015 10:42 PM Flag

    As you can see, the Fury X may technically need only 275W for what AMD calls “typical gaming scenarios” but it draws much, much more under Furmark’s worst-case scenario—nearly as much as two GTX 980s (not Tis) in SLI. It drew even more power than the dual-GPU Radeon 295x2.

    OMG, 2 of AMD's Watt Sucking Fury X in one Arc Welding Card will increase Global Warming and cause the extinction of Lame Brained AMDuped Suckers!


    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • amdoomed amdoomed Aug 18, 2015 6:14 PM Flag

    LOL at you AMD Pump Boy

    Although the recently announced Watt Sucking IPC Cripple AMD FX-9000 series microprocessors are only 17% - 20% faster than their predecessors, they will cost considerably more than existing FX-8300 family central processing units. The new AMD watt sucking IPC cripple processors have whopping 220W thermal design power. Given the fact that there are currently few mainboards that officially support chips with such high power consumption, the new chips are not drop-in compatible with existing infrastructure.

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    Maxwell GTX980 Annihilating AMD 290X ! AMDoomed !

    by amdoomed Mar 3, 2015 5:07 PM
    amdoomed amdoomed Aug 18, 2015 5:13 PM Flag

    And the AMD Beat Down Goes On and On, Maxwell Dominates Market Share with its Massive Performance Per Watt Advantage!

    AMD Radeon R9 290X DESTROYED !!!

    You don't have to look long at our results today to see that the AMD Radeon R9 290X is crying out for help. The AMD Radeon R9 290X is currently AMD's flagship single-GPU, just like the GeForce GTX 980 is NVIDIA's flagship single-GPU. Other than adding more GPUs, this is as fast as it gets in single-GPU form from both AMD and NVIDIA. Yet, it looks like the AMD Radeon R9 290X is lagging severely compared to what NVIDIA currently has on the table.

    The GeForce GTX 980 is making the AMD Radeon R9 290X look like last-generation technology, which you can argue it is since its launch nearly 1.5 years ago. We are shocked how far behind the Radeon R9 290X is falling from the newer GeForce GTX 980. It seems to keep falling further and further behind in every evaluation we write! Chock some of that up to the clocks we are seeing, but drivers are certainly part of that equation as well.

    The ASUS ROG Poseidon GTX 980 Platinum has surely laid the smack down on the AMD Radeon R9 290X. We were using a very high factory overclocked customized and expensive AMD Radeon R9 290X GPU based video card today. The Sapphire Vapor-X R9 290X Tri-X OC debuted at the same price as the ASUS ROG Poseidon GTX 980. However today the Sapphire can be had for about $400. The SAPPHIRE card let us overclock the AMD Radeon R9 290X to its highest frequency we've ever achieved consistently.

    This is the AMD Radeon R9 290X at its best, at its absolute highest performance potential on air. However the AMD Radeon R9 290X is slower in every game, not just by a little, but by a lot. A highly overclocked R9 290X cannot keep up with a factory overclocked GTX 980, or a manual overclock GTX 980. It would be even worse if this were a stock, default clocked AMD Radeon R9 290X. It is time for AMD's next generation, because Hawaii (R9 290/X) just got old.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • amdoomed amdoomed Aug 18, 2015 2:10 PM Flag

    Shut the Hell Up you lying crying AMD PofS pumper, Intel REVERSED ENGINEERED x86 64 bit ( Codenamed Yamhill) and paid AMD ZERO, Intel OWNS their version of x86/64bit.

    You jealous AMD PofS pumper lies about Intel's many performance improvements that has buried AMD IPC Cripple Bullcraper with each and every Tick-Tock, Skylake Superior performance will make Late and Lame Zen DOA.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Super Skylake Superior Performance DOMINATES! AMDOOMED!

    Intel revealed the first of its sixth-generation Skylake processors two weeks ago, starting with two new 14 nm desktop chips aimed at performance junkies and gamers. Intel’s latest processor roadmap is represented by the 4GHz Core i7-6700K and the 3.5 GHz Core i5-6600K, which are both quad-core desktop CPUs boasting Intel’s virtual Hyper-Threading technology.

    Skylake-K processors turns into beasts when single-thread performance is completely utilized. This feature, called Reverse Hyper-Threading, is a little different. It allows users to join the performance of multiple physical cores into a single virtual one. The optimization found the single-thread count on the i7 to be 2.4x faster than its predecessor. Moreover, testing multiple cores showed a massive difference in speed compared to Haswell-- 20% with multiple-threads and 170% with single-thread.

    The hyper-threading enabled on the i7 means it carries eight logical processors, compared to the four in the i5. The base frequency offered in the i7 is 4.0 GHz, which is bound to give seamless performance while running games and applications. Intel might have also included a secondary core to help the first with buffers, cache or other functional units.

    The release of newer processors features a shorter performance gap between generations, which means expecting a revolutionary change in gaming would be optimistic. However, the news is great for the PC gaming industry, especially since many games are poorly optimized for multi-core use. The combination of reverse hyper-threading technology and overclocking will mean a gaming-friendly PC that could potentially improve graphic speed exponentially.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

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    Nvidia Has A Huge Surge In Sales! AMD DOOMED!

    by amdoomed Aug 10, 2015 10:12 AM
    amdoomed amdoomed Aug 11, 2015 12:41 AM Flag

    Nvidia Has A Huge Surge In Sales, Taking even MORE Market Share form AMD's Watt Sucking ReBranded GPUs.

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    Nvidia Has A Huge Surge In Sales! AMD DOOMED!

    by amdoomed Aug 10, 2015 10:12 AM
    amdoomed amdoomed Aug 10, 2015 10:37 AM Flag

    Many gamers were waiting to see what Debt Doomed AMD was bringing to the Gaming World, but AMD just ReBranded its Watt Sucking GPUs AGAIN, so a Huge amount Gamers jumped in the Green Team camp.

    AMD's Watt Sucking Limited to a measly 4GB of HBM1 Fury is very Low Yield, has near Zero overclocking headroom and NEEDS a Massive Water Cooled Radiator to get close to the performance of a reference air cooled Maxwell 980Ti. Nvidia's many partners unleashed a Massive Flock of custom highly overclocked 980Ti and Darkened the Skies over AMD's Dead Red Team.


    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Reply to

    Die AMD. Just frecking DIE!

    by hellraiserdk_v2 Aug 10, 2015 10:00 AM
    amdoomed amdoomed Aug 10, 2015 10:23 AM Flag

    Debt doomed AMD is a Cash eating walking dead Zombie on the road to its BK grave.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Nvidia Has A Huge Surge In Sales

    Nvidia’s latest financial results have significantly exceed its own expectations, driving the value of stock up 12% in a single day. The decline in PC sales doesn’t appear to be affecting Nvidia one bit, who has offset the PC pre-build slump with bumper sales of its dedicated graphics cards.

    Jen-Hsun Huang, CEO of Nvidia, was particularly assured during the recent earnings called, claiming he is confident that PC gaming will continue to grow and grow. Particular focus was given to the high-end market, with a huge number of gamers finding themselves in the market for top-tier graphics hardware.

    “The second half of the year we’re going to see some really solid games,” said Huang. “4K is here. Windows 10 is great. And the Skylake platform by Intel is going into production now. Virtual reality will go into production in the second half of the year. Each of these drivers are pretty large scale. My expectation is that gaming, and high end gaming in particular, is going to grow nicely.”

    Revenue from Nvidia’s GeForce GTX range of graphics cards was up 51% year over year, offsetting the significant slump of built-in OEM graphics chips.

    "Nvidia’s earnings is further proof that the PC gaming market is insulated from a homogeneous consumer PC market,” said Patrick Moorhead, of Moor Insights & Strategy. “PC gaming is big, and if this isn’t proof to the doubters, they will never believe."

    It all sounds like upbeat news for PC gaming. Despite the dozens of reports of the decline in PC sales, it seems PC gaming is immune to this. With demand for graphics cards on the up, this can only be a good thing, as more gamers make the leap to dedicated gaming PCs.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • AMD Plunges Below 20 ! AMD DOOMED!

    SAN FRANCISCO—Advanced Micro Devices Inc. (AMD), which has seen its sales decline over the past several years and has reported six consecutive quarterly losses, Plunged out of the top 20 semiconductor vendors as ranked by sales in the first half of 2015, according to market research firm IHS.

    AMD’s slip in the rankings was largely due to a particularly rough second quarter, when the company’s sales declined by 35% compared to the second quarter of 2014, IC Insights (Scottsdale, Ariz.) noted. The second quarter also marked the first time AMD’s sales slipped below $1 billion since 2003, IC Insights added.

    AMD has been ranked among the top 20 chip suppliers in every calendar oyear since sometime prior to 2000, according to annual rankings issued by iSuppli Corp.(now part of IHS Inc.)

    AMD has been undergoing turbulence in recent years amid declining sales and a lull in the PC market, which until recently accounted for about 90% of the company’s sales. AMD has demonstrated progress in recent years increasing the percentage of its revenue it derives from non-PC markets and the company’s CEO, Lisa Who, has pledged a return to profitability in the second half of this year.

    But IC Insights noted that AMD’s restructuring and focus on non-PC markets has yet to pay off. The firm noted that AMD lost $361 million in the first half of this year and $403 million in 2014.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • To test power and thermal information, I run the grueling Furmark benchmark for 15 minutes, taking temperature information at the end using Furmark’s built-in tool and double-checking it with SpeedFan. Power is measured on a whole-system basis, instead of the GPU alone, by plugging the PC into a Watts Up meter rather than the wall socket.

    As you can see, the Fury X may technically need only 275W for what AMD calls “typical gaming scenarios” but it draws much, much more under Furmark’s worst-case scenario—nearly as much as two GTX 980s (not Tis) in SLI. It drew even more power than the dual-GPU Radeon 295x2.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • AMD Bond Prices Rise 1.3%
    Debt Doomed AMD Day's are Numbered

    AMD debt rose 1.3% against its face value during trading on Monday, Marketbeat reports. The debt issue has a 7.5% coupon and will mature on August 15, 2022. The bonds in the issue are now trading at $66.25 and were trading at $78.25 last week. Price changes in a company’s debt in credit markets often predict parallel changes in its share price.

    A number of research firms have recently commented on AMD. Zacks lowered AMD from a “hold” rating to a “strong sell” rating in a research note on Tuesday, July 21st. Mizuho lowered their price objective on AMD from $2.25 to $2.00 and set a “neutral” rating on the stock in a research note on Tuesday, July 21st. BNP Paribas reduced their target price on AMD from $2.00 to $1.80 and set an “underperform” rating on the stock in a research report on Monday, July 20th. Bank of America cut their price objective on AMD from $2.25 to $2.00 and set an “underperform” rating on the stock in a report on Friday, July 17th. Finally, Wedbush cut their price target on AMD from $2.25 to $2.00 and set a “neutral” rating on the stock in a report on Friday, July 17th. Eight analysts have rated the stock with a sell rating, eight have issued a hold rating, five have issued a buy rating and one has issued a strong buy rating to the company. The stock has a consensus rating of “Hold” and an average target price of $2.61.

    Shares AMD traded down 2.99% during mid-day trading on Monday, hitting $1.62. 11,916,468 shares of the company’s stock traded hands. AMD has a 1-year low of $1.61 and a 1-year high of $4.32. The stock’s 50-day moving average is $2.20 and its 200-day moving average is $2.53. The company’s market cap is $1.26 billion.
    The company’s quarterly revenue was down 34.6% on a year-over-year basis. Analysts expect that AMD will post $-0.47 EPS for the current fiscal year.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • The Bottom Line

    Let's be honest, the AMD Radeon R9 Fury X is getting its butt kicked at 4K. We don't think these are the results AMD wanted, especially marketing this video card as a video card developed for 4K gaming. However, these are the real-world results we have found between the AMD Radeon R9 Fury X, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti and NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X.

    It all comes back around to pricing. If the GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB and AMD Radeon R9 Fury X 4GB are priced equally, our results lean heavily toward the fact that the GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB is the Better Value. The 980 Ti provides Faster Performance than the Fury X, and the 980 Ti has More VRAM to accommodate gaming at 4K than the Fury X. If price is not a concern, there is no question that the best performance for single-GPU gaming at 4K is the GeForce GTX TITAN X.

    When we initially evaluated the AMD Radeon R9 Fury X and focused on a 1440p gameplay experience, we got some criticism that this video card was meant for 4K gaming and that is where it should prove to be worth the money. We did not focus on 4K because we do not feel any of these single GPU cards truly serve up good 4K gaming. We have now evaluated the Fury X video card specifically at 4K and found it is in fact NOT the best 4K gaming video card.

    Our initial evaluation conclusion that the AMD Radeon R9 Fury X fits into the category of a 1440p gaming video card stands. The AMD Radeon R9 Fury X is better for providing an enjoyable 1440p gameplay experience than it is a 4K gameplay experience. Given the Poor Performance of the Radeon R9 Fury X at 4K we also see no need to evaluate the lesser Radeon R9 Fury at 4K. If the Fury X is better suited for 1440p, it follows that the R9 Fury is as well.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

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