"you do not fully understand my position."
I understand your position.
You are 'gambling' on ABAT stock; simple as that.
"Yes the SEC can interfere with the trading of ABAT, althouth that won't help us and would even more make us at the mercy of Foo. And if that was a viable option, why haven't they in the last 4 years."
Well, that other poster you reference has shared some information related to the reason for that; but, if you choose to ignore or not verify that information, then feel free to remain in the dark about it.
"But answer me this...why would Foo make all that PR noise if he did not contemplate doing something for/with us."
One very real possibility would be to influence a rise in share price, so he can dump/sell more shares and squeeze out more free money. Surely you know of this real possibility?
After all, that is the #1 reason Foo back-doored ABAT into the stock market - to obtain free money.
"Since neither the courts or SEC can do anything to help us, and we have no effective power, I repeat we are at Foos mercy."
That is a mixture of cause and effects.
The SEC can not ENFORCE anything to HELP existing shareholders - yes, I would agree with that; but, on the flip side of THAT, the SEC can remove the ABAT listing which would HURT existing shareholders (but the existing shareholders knew investing in ABAT was a pure gamble, right?).
Separately, during the time which the SEC has not removed the ABAT listing, existing shareholders are somewhat at Foo's mercy; meaning, unless you are a large investor with hundreds of thousands of dollars to influence the stock price movement, small investors are at the mercy of the large investors (or a large number of investors). If Foo can no longer influence large investors, then there is no hope; and, that is where the history of years of failed promises comes into play...how many times are investors going to 'jump' when Foo says 'jump', with nothing to jump up and hold on to?
One very simple, basic question ... then WHY is Tesla building their own Gigawatt battery production facility in the USA? And not just one facility, but two!
And I suppose you never heard of the company Panasonic?
I guess you didn't hear about any of that massively publicized information during the past years, huh?
"BUt I cannot abide by some of the ignorance here who keep shouting how much influence power the SEC and courts will have on our situation."
I hope you DO realize, the SEC can make the STOCK essentially worthless. That IS one power the SEC has. But like you said, "That is not a significant amount of money in my portfolio", so if you consider the amount as insignificant as giving that much money to a person begging at a busy intersection, then that is certainly your prerogative.
"we are at the discretion of one man who appeared to be doing the right thing, at least making the right noises, till southpaw became obnoxious and tried to force its way."
That one man has been doing the wrong thing for over 4 years, long before southpaw tried their hand at the 'investment' they are attempting. And during that same 4+ year time period, that same man has made numerous promises that never materialized. If him making yet another promise makes you feel good, then enjoy. If you actually believe his promise will become a reality, then take a number and keep waiting behind the other promises.
"I thought all my posts are clear."
Not really (imo), because you mix so many thoughts into a single post along with rants about another poster.
" I'm essentially talking about those that are holders and would like to recoup some of their losses."
"asets are outside the USA control and we are at the mercy of Foo."
"Bottom line all that matters is jurisdiction/authority to better our shareholder lot and I do not see that."
Yes, I agree. IMO, any shareholders will not see an increase in share value unless 1) Foo miraculously changes his 'act'; and 2) the business is actually very profitable.
4 + years is a long enough history to review Foo's actions (or lack of actions), and postulate what he will do in the future.
Additionally, no financial filings during the same 4+ years, accompanied by very little information that was published in some manner showing debt, after a time period when the company was proudly reporting itself as debt-free and profitable ... I personally would conclude, the best way for shareholders to recoup some of their losses is to do what other posters have suggested - sell shares while the shares still have some value, and reinvest that cash in other more legitimate companies that have a much better chance of going up in value.
"the courts and SEC have no power/jusrisdiction over ABAT"
Are you talking about the company, or the stock?
As to what shareholders can do, well, the simplest decision a shareholder can do is buy or sell the stock. IMO, why would anyone buy ABAT stock when there are hundreds of better stocks out there tied to companies that actually communicate with shareholders and file with the SEC like they are supposed to?
Sounds like you watched the same Disney Vacation Club dvd that they try to mail out to everyone.
That place is called "DisneyWorld" in Florida (and Downtown Disney), where one of my brothers works. I am fully aware of everything there is to do there, AS WELL AS fine dining OUTSIDE of DisneyWorld. Of course, the "world class dining" you followed up with is NOT included with your "disney dining plans". Next thing, you will tell us you paid big bucks to spend a night in Cinderella's castle! LOL!!!!!
"disney dining plans"
A supposed millionaire eating overpriced disney 'fast food' for an entire 5 weeks straight!
Try eating outside the disney grounds, at some quality restaurants.
I will even recommend one to you here, free of charge: Moonfish
"The moon is made of Chinese Investors buying up American Holdings"
Yes, because the Chinese know local companies like ABAT are POS not worth investing in.
How many times did you 'guarantee' ABAT would more than double in price?
I don't see anyone flooding the message board about that.
Why are you being such a hypocritical idiot? Do you have some kind of crush on IBC? Did you make a pass at him/her, but got turned down, so you became vindictive over it?
NOBODY else acts the way you do ... it is not normal.
You seemed to have mistaken the stock symbol ABAT for AAPL
Please go to an eyeglass store, get your eyes examined, and fill your new prescription eyewear.
In the meantime, it would be best to refrain from posting any more messages on these boards, as doing so will only make you look like a bigger fool than you already are.
"I took a flier on a lot of Chinese stocks and haven't been back in years."
And 'lbcb321' made a comment regarding AAPL at THAT time, many many months ago.
And you KNOW, like anybody else who reads posts on this board, that 'lbcb321' NEVER suggests holding an investment blindly long term; meaning, develop and commit to an 'exit plan' BEFORE you execute on an investment, an 'exit plan' that most importantly is set up to protect your investment dollars. And modify that plan if necessary, as a result of monitoring new information as it becomes available. This sounds like very intelligent investing advice to me. And it is not all that complicated; at least, it is not complicated to most people.
What advice have YOU ever provided? ... I can sum it up in 4 words, "Buy and Hold AAPL"
You have absolutely NOTHING more intelligent to offer. That is why you are only mentally capable of posting self-satisfying tirades on this board.
You want us to forget YOUR bad comments and trades of the past, but you want to insist on flooding this board with digging up some comment another poster made in the long ago past, which only applied at THAT time, and was accompanied by related, potential, future events that MIGHT occur.
You are very much a hypocrite.
I have never seen a 27 CENT company listed on the pinksheets bought out before; except, maybe back in the 1920's when pennies were a lot more valuable than they are today.
Thanks for the heads up.
I will be sure to have a look at NASDAQ-listed, Chinese-ADSs that trade in the double-digit DOLLARS.
ABAT obviously does NOT "fit the bill", being it is a pinksheet stock trading in the double-digit PENNIES.
Why not 'twist.nrev'?
After all, he/she continues to tell us of the 400,000 shares owned.
Why would such a large investor NOT want to be?
So THAT is your definition of "very active"??