This happens every year. The spike and then it goes silent. I kind of know what it's tied to But until that happens, we get some nibbles, but the fish doesn't jump in the boat.
Stop dilution....he claimed this would stop at 3.33B shares. See #20....$100M market cap at .03 a share. That was 6.67B shares ago. My does time fly, when you are having fun.
You claim I made this up and when I show evidence that the pumpers were bragging "stop dilution-check". If you read down the list, zzztop stated that they would have a market cap of $100M at .03 a share. That would mean he expected them to stop printing at 3.33B shares. That was 6.67B shares ago.
How come all the low life's end up being the pumpers?
ZZZtop posted several times this claim. Put a big check mark. How come pappy is calling zzz a dbag. Better yet, why was pappy sending kisses to AW. BTW that dilution comment was 4..B shares ago. Maybe even 5B if they continue to dilute 15M shares per day on average. I wish pappy had the brains to actual be alpha dog here. It seems all he can do is chase his tale and eat his own krap and lick himself.
This was the claims by pumpers. Read the first one. Stop dilution....Check
20 Reasons Why I'm Buying
by zzzshebop • Dec 6, 2013 2:57 PM
1) Stop dilution - check
2) Restructure debt – check, to 2015
3) Improve distribution and marketing – check, many new distributors combined with marketing blitz last few weeks
4) Initiate UK internet sales - check (few months ago)
5) Initiate Boots Pharmacy sales - check (couple of weeks ago)
6) Increase sales - check, up 460% for third quarter 2013 versus 2012 (not including Boots)
7) Expect similar sales increase for 4th quarter
8) Europe sales - coming soon
9) Gro Int'l sales - in progress
10) Licencing and royalty income - coming soon, multiple partnerships
11) Canada sales - on horizon
12) Reduce share float - check (with the millions I and others have recently accumulated, almost like a “buyback”)
13) Protect intellectual property with patents – check
14) Not far from breaking 50, 100 and 200 mda's
15) Leverage 500k EX-IM bank loan - check ($421,549 used, which will translate into 4th quarter sales)
16) Capitalize on positive study results - check (heel product sales commenced in Austria a couple of weeks ago, supported by recent succesful plantar fasciitis study)
17) Get past year-end tax loss selling – check (likely buybacks commencing soon after 30 day wash)
18) Transition from a “development stage” company to a company with dynamic sales growth – check (occurring now, 400%/quarter)
19) FDA approval/U.S. sales - share price goes "to the moon"
20) Achieve $100 million market cap (.03/share) – pending, with increased sales and/or FDA approval and/or buyout (by J&J, P&G, Dr. Scholls, Nike, Adidas?), boosted by tax loss carry forward of .0067/share (21.8 mil/3.4 bil shares).
20 Reasons Why I'm Buying
by zzzshebop • Dec 6, 2013 2:57 PM
AW stated no more dilution and since then, they have diluted 5B shares. Can you say with any certainty that they haven't diluted into this news? The Whelans are going to do what benefits them the most. That is why they don't care if this is 10B, 12B or 1T shares. You think you are entitled to 15,000% increase. I believe you will be lucky to see 500%.
My reverse split numbers show your claims this is headed to $150 a share as unrealistic. Why do you have tolerance for pumps and no tolerance for actual discussions. So allowing billions of shares at .001 to enter the picture, makes you confident that price increases will not be met with profit taking.
Pappy, no one will ever call you brilliant. You need 12 id's to make points that only a clown would raise here. I showed how unlikely your predictions of .15 are. That when news hits, you are going to get back handed from day traders and all you can post, don't worry AW has our backs.
Sorry pappy, but you are the last guy qualified to give advice here. You pumped a stock for 7 years, you didn't have the good sense to come in out of the rain. How come if you are so right, you avoided the simple test with all your other id's. If you have to hide from those facts, that kind of shows what little character you have.
They are selling more product. The 2400 stores and Costco stores have good margins in them. At 50% any increase in sales, should put a dent in losses. So to state they loss $1M per quarter that is false. It's wrong to post inaccuracies, just like it's wrong to claim this is headed to .15 a share.
How about you start being intellectually honest. There are two types of posters, dishonest and honest. You and pappy, edbi, drods and the 12 aliases all fall into the same category. You won the battle the past 7 years, now don't lose the war, with that lead. I understand how immature the pumpers are, but don't show us you are equally as stupid.
You are correct. But I wish you had taken it a step further. Today the pumpers tell you this is worth .15. That is $1.5B value. Could the pumpers get away with this if they did a RS of 1 for 1000? Be a little harder to justify. If today there were only 10M shares, the share price would be $1.20 and the pumpers would be claiming this is worth $150 a share.
They are exactly the same thing. It would still take this company, making $6 a share in profits to be valued at $150 a share. That is what the pumpers are claiming. This is why I question them.
Implementation is what the pumpers never try and figure out. They go from point A to point B and never look at the full picture. They have been doing this for 8 years. Dreamers cost investors money, because they set you up for disappointment. I could easily just post what you want to hear. That is what they want, but instead I question the issues that will always face this company.
I know that they have landed some orders and most likely 4Q numbers will be their best quarter ever. But what is the fair value the street will support? Here is what I see as the growth:
4Q - $1.5M revenues
1Q- $2M Revenues
2Q- $2.5M revenues
3Q- $4.0M revenues
This is growth I think they can manage. But if the street looks out 6 months and values the company, using the 3X rule, the value it would give this on these numbers, is .0039 sometime around March next year. The pumpers want you to believe the street will support .02 maybe? What is the correct valuation? Does the street give you $200M value for selling $16M in product or my view of 3 times sales or something in between?
The key on my view, is if you get that spike that lands outside the comfort zone, the street will support, you will see traders take advantage of you. Look at how fast you went from .0022 to .0008 just recently.
The pumpers who tell you this is worth .15, never look at what that would take realistically to support it. The clearance in the USA unlocks some value. But the cost of this product, is not easy to ignore.
Look at it this way, we have cigar smokers, they would love to smoke the best, however they buy the $2 cigar, instead of the $10 one, why? There are going to be many that pick up the actipatch, read the label and weigh the cost and just simply put it back on the shelf.
The pumpers believe they will have money for growth, advertisement and buybacks. I believe they don't have the funding for any of this and will need more dilution to grow. Who's correct?
Don't see any 2M share bids. Once a year there is some action here and then it goes away. I don't get excite, till I see news. Unless the research was still going on at LA and that we get some benefit, they still are broke.
The RS will be timed to allow the Whelans to benefit and to a lessor degree you. The Whelans have advanced this company $8M. Do they want $8M back in confederate shares? Today they would need something like another 8B shares.
So when would the Whelans be happiest? Do they want their 8M paid back, dilution or what? My guess they will only convert it, on strong footing and that would require RS. My hope this all get's resolved after the FDA news and not before. I believe the pop to near one penny will be met with a steep sell off as fast as it came. This will force the Whelans to understand, time to reverse split. There are no situations where 10B + Whelans 8B shares can just float around.
Some believe their risks here are worth 39,000 percent returns. Ignoring the Whelan's feel they took all the risks. So when this pie get's divide up, the Whelans are not going to allow you your piece and they get less.
The Whelan's are not going to allow appreciation to you and not them. Look at it this way, they are owed $8M. Today they would get, if the price didn't drop, 6.7M shares. Now news hits, their 8M is paid back at .015? So they get 53M shares? So what did they get out of this? You enjoy 14900% increase in your investment and the Whelans, happy that they just get their $8M back?
Maybe Pappy can explain what's in it for the Whelans? The pumpers want you to not to consider any of this. But they are the same clowns in 2009, who also stated don't listen to anyone else.
Why do you send Paul and AW kisses at the end of your post to them? Why no hugs pappy, just kisses?
How come pappy, you feared a simple test to have all your id's show up at the same time? I think you should not throw stones around your glass house. The Whelans are going to do what benefits them the most. That 10B shares will be addresses and in the end you have maybe a 400% gainer here.
I think we all can agree that a reverse split is coming. AEZS just did one, it was fumbling at .045 a share. They did a 1 for 100 RS, the stock is now $13 a share. If Whelans are smart, they start looking when to take these billions of shares out of the picture. You as investors are not feeling any love, having investors eagerly happy selling shares at .0002 profit.
I thinks it's time the Whelans to look at a 1 for 1000 RS. This way if the FDA news hits, you could actually hang onto profits. The AEZS shareholders, will not see the 5000% increase, but can safely count on the 400%-1000% actual news would create. Just days ago, this stock had trouble with .05, but since split, they now have some traction. They have something like 5M shares now floating around.
What would be the outcome here? First you would only have 8M shares floating around. The stock would start off at about $1.20 a share. I think it would trade up to $3.50 a share. The Whelans could then look for a Nasdaq listing. The idea of seeing 39,000% price rise, well that is for clowns and pappy's and edbi's to dream about.
The pumpers here, want no talk about RS. The timing here is what the pumpers will not discuss. They fear the RS more then they fear showing up at the same time and showing you they are not one clown with a computer.
Now the RS will happen, you know that. I believe that you have to trade this on news, because at .005, they may only want 1 for 500. But if this falls all the way back to the .0025 range, the RS will be larger.
The best plan here, is take most off the table at .008, if gaps higher, rush out fast. When this settles at .0025, the hand writing on the wall will mean that too many shares selling on any news. You will have missed the 700% gain, you will maybe get 300% gain after RS. That means holding you are 400% behind me. Plus if I buy back, I see the same 300% you get.
It's all math and the clowns here flunked math.
10B. I wrote the IR department a while back and expressed they not tell the Whelans what comes after billion. The reply by edbi, he's the village idiot. I think that is clear. Multiple id posters, have certain id's that express the inner rants of a child and EDBI fills that void. Usually the mastermind behind multiple id's, is a coward and little bit unstable.
FDA say no,
Who told you to keep an eye on this? Maybe someone taking over the shell? I bought some a few years back at .0012. Happy to see any life in it.
Leaving pappy and his 12 id's pumping. The FDA news will be short lived spike and you will regret listening to the clowns telling you this is headed to .15. The 10B gorilla is sitting on your chest. This coupled with one id with 12 aliases filling your heads with valuations that just do not happen, unless, the item gets covered by insurance companies.
I asked the clowns here to show anything real, what did they do, run like cockroaches when you turn the lights on. The plan here is a pump and dump. Be careful, be alert and watch trading, because when the buying stops, the retreat will be felt.
The pumpers here maybe the group wanting everyone trusting their BS and lose out on this one opportunity. Last quarter they grew by -25%. My goal is to stick the day traders here and allow them to have to pump. This would gap up immediately on news, that every share out there would be profitable and the buyers would be just day traders. That doesn't usually end well for longs.
If you look at the last few gap ups, they all retreated, but this time, it will be different. I'm selling on news and taking names.
Genius, why is it that ARQ109 and your id all spell my Id wrong? It's ARQL07. This kind of shows that you do use multiple id's.
300 2-paks. That is something like $12K starting order. How many Costco's would it take to get $1M in revenue? Only 83. This kind of supports my belief's that sales will slowly grow. That trading this, will be the only smart way to play it. If Costco sells 20 a week that is $800 a week. About $41,600 total revenue.
Yeah, this is definitely headed to .15 a share. I will be happy, if I get .008.
Good news could halt the stock. I want the gap up like anyone else. What I fear is the Scottrades likes to cut investors off on stocks that fluctuate too much. This is another example that can be fall you, after you hold to long. I worry about pappy, he's on the prowl for a limp one. apparently ED bI not cutting it for pappy any longer. To limp? The poor guy is taking handfuls of Viagra and cannot keep [pappy's appetite satisfied.
Pappy must be from SF, not SD. Right roryrae.