Can you explain how 2400 store announcement created no appreciation. That's right, when clueless, blame it on MM. 500M shares traded hands the past two days and you got no appreciation. 1/9 the float traded and zero pop. But that will all change when the FDA steps up.
There is no doom gloom in my posts, just a taste of realty that your brain will not allow itself to wraps it's hands around. You have fed off each here so long, that somehow, a valuation like $16B sounds reasonable to you. I don't see anything like this ever happening BIEL. With 2,400 stores the best you can hope f with annual sales is $10M in sales annually. So landing the USA may man $20M annually. That would fetch you a buy out offer of $60M or .0075. Assuming there are only 8B shares. A normal pharmacy sells maybe $85 a week this product.
You would need to sell $2K a week per store to get what you think this is worth and that is not going to happen. You are delusional little boys, who have no grasp of reality. I cannot wait to hand this off to day traders and watch you squirm as the price retreats.
Who are these big players you believe waiting in the wings? This is never going to be the winner you think it is, because $25 is out of the question for over 90% of the population. The only way this flies off the shelves, is if someone else pays for it. Yes, you will have a certain percentage of customers willing to fork out $25, but this maybe just 4 people per drug store a week on average. Far from the numbers thrown around here.
I base this on them only selling $600K last quarter in 500 Boots and Amazon. 4 items per store are not the kind of things that get you the valuations you crave. Sorry, that is just the facts. This maybe motivates boots, because a shelf peg generating $100 a week and a profit margin for them of 33%, is a winner.
This is still a hard sell, no matter how you look at it. Years from now this will finally sink in. We all want to believe we have a winner, that miraculous customers are just going to make a mad rush to Walgreens, eager to fork out $25 for a cure. I look at the actipatch as a distraction from the pain. It doesn't cure anything, it just calms those nerve pains down a little. It's much easier to pop a pill, then wear a ace bandage to keep the patch in place.
One in thousand may fork $25, when you understand this, you will maybe make money here. There is no company waiting in the wings, hoping to scoop this up, in hopes of beating a rival. The price point is still your biggest hurdle. For some this is just a price of a movie, popcorn and soda to them, others, this is an expensive cost. This is not a easy hill to climb, even when the FDA say's okay.
Spent some time looking at the books. They lost last quarter $732K. What would it take to erase that loss in increased revenues? They operate on a 43% margin. So what would they need to increase sales by to start breaking even? They would need to increase sales by $2M a quarter. I allowed some for additional costs. So basically they need to reach 2.7M a quarter. This is based on a 35% margin.
Now if they have landed 2400 stores, like AW stated, what numbers would they need to hit this amount? $2.7M divide by 2400 stores= $1,125 per store. $1,125 divide by 13 weeks= $86.53 per store in sales. Or roughly 4 patches a week.
Tonight we got an e-mail, that they also will begin selling in some of the super drug stores. Something like 160 to begin with and some pharmacist program.
I think 4 units per store per week, is not to high or low. Just for kicks, let's figure what another 20K stores would mean fundamentally. I will assume this is addition to the 2,400.
20,000 x $86x 13 weeks= $22,36M. Profit margin of 35%= $7,826,000 divided by 9B shares =.00087 a share. A PE of 30 would give you a .026 a share value. Throw in some USA stores and maybe .05 is in your cards down the road. This would look sweeter if at some point they do the R/S of 1 for 100.
Think this is what I head AW state. Clearance by end of the year. Andy sated FDA has had this for about 2 months? Not his best interview, by any means. Talking with Super drugs who have 12K stores.
Can't rule that out. They have had to survive on the backs of shareholders. But they also have a great product. The minions don't get it here. They paid for al the discovery and in the end, day traders re going to walk in an out and clean out the vaults. Maybe they leave them .0025 this time, but, I'm not expecting much more, after the alarm bells start ringing.
Could he give the purchase order amounts? That ink should have already dried. Last quarter they had the numbers up a few days early, maybe they do the same this quarter? Would like to see 25% growth. Been working on my sell finger, getting it in top reflex form. I know it's in shape, because it's been squashing ants like cappy and edbi.
The closes way to describe you, is lame duck. Only difference, a lame duck would know exactly they are useless. You just don't have the ability to connect the dots.
You know what you will be, when the day traders get done here, a lame duck out of water.
I never though anyone could pull off a post, that sounded like they have marbles in their mouth. But somehow you do this daily. In 7 years, you haven't told us one useful thing. You are scared that all you energy will be forgotten. You had no clue for 7 years, kind of sad. Someone has to tell you "how it is", you couldn't figure it out for 7 years.
When you sit down and rationalize this out, who is smarter, the boob who wasted daily their lives, posting to a useless MB or the parties that enjoyed life, didn't worry about the name calling here and waited for the ideas to manifest on their own. You didn't nothing to speed or shorten this process. Nothing in the past seven years that you have posted, did anyone any good. Someone walking off the street, reading the info, would be just as right as you today. See being wrong for 7 years, doesn't make you right when this happens. It makes you out to be a clown who fooled only himself all these years.
We just were wiser and more mature. You cannot understand either.
No one cares. The 99% of us, just here to make money and no one cares about old scores. The bashers have taunted you and made you become a small figure on this board. All that matters now to most, is will this fly this time and how much can we put in our pockets?
That's it. There will be no parade for any pumper. They didn't see anything we didn't see. They just wasted years, pumping this for the Whelans. Your dedication was rewarded with 8B shares.
The smartest investors in the room are the ones, who watched and waited. They ignored the flap here, they went about their lives and they just kept an eye on it. 7-9 years, doesn't make you a adult. It makes you an idiot. No one will look up to you as a prophet. Because a prophet would have gotten the dates right in the first place. You will be looked at, like the blind squirrel, who found his nuts after 7 years.
Trading today at .00001. Market cap of $7K.
How come so many here want you concentrating on the high prices, but never give you the full details? That should point at some serious character flaws. But this time will be different. The price could hit high, but how many get out at the top and how many are caught holding the bag? Edbi/coachpotato, do not have your backs here. They are part of the pump, they been waiting 7 years, to be in a position, where they this time real the rewards.
I still believe we spike and give most of it back, when the day traders start looking for the exits.
Listen to him rory. The rest of us do not like what you stand for. You are immature and you are clueless. Those are not two qualities you want to hold in a debate. I wish everyone luck. The deck is stacked against you and has been. For investors with a little common sense, there are opportunities. You just got to pick them wisely. The day traders are the enemy, the pumpers are just someone who has gotten it so wrong so long, that they cannot think rationally.
That's right, how's it feel to be dumber then the dumbest MFer on the board? Only rory posts like you edbi. Sad that at 67 years of age, you never grew up. What edbi doesn't like, several years ago, we all invested in supergen. Edbi at $7.90, the rest of us at $1.50. He sold at $2 and loaded up with BIEL at .12. Our investment went from $1.50 to $8.50 a share, his sits here today. See edbi has many names on these boards.
Edbi is the smartest man in his mind, without one accomplishment to his name. He's the village idiot, where ever he goes. He's immature, he's self destructive, he's a nuisance that none respect. I know you are not happy, I can just walk in and take over. I understand the picture clearer then you do, I refute all the pumps.
I don't mind the names rory. You have a lot of hostility built up. You are a mess. You invent valuations with little thought behind them. You never understood the working parts. You constantly get yourself stuck paying 18,750,000% higher then everyone else here.
Have a good weekend rory. You were a clown in 2009 and you still hold that title today.
Day traders are going to smoke you and I will own you after the dust flies. But you will run and hide, because that's just the kind of fella you are.
I think time for a test. On Monday I will have a list of names that edbi is using to post with here. A simple test will require all these clowns to post messages at the same time. let's see if edbi can be in two places at once. So far he has never past this test on any board. I'm sure he will wet himself and claim he has me on ignore. The loser plays the same game everywhere.
We are all idiots. Investing in any penny, doesn't take brains, it takes luck. Lot's of luck. I see two lucky times to own this. One being at .06 and it running to .12. Not lucky if you held. Then when it was trading at .0004 and then ran to .008.
drod, no one is saying your boat will not sail. I'm just saying be careful that over zealous investors rush in and out. I see that opportunity having a greater chance on the day we get news, then OBC paying for any of this any time soon. Millions and millions of people live with pain. They do take drugs, it's the one common bond we have here. We all understand something needs to replace this addiction and abuse. But that is not going to happen fast.
I'm actually half an idiot, because I wish I had bought more at .06 and sold more at .08. I wish I had bought more at .0004 and sold more at .008. But those were short lived stories. FDA will be good news, but it's not going to be what you dreamed about. Building up in your mind a valuation that may take years to reach, is the mistake biotech investors make. I have a hard time believing that 8B shares are going to stay united.
Is it wrong to caution investors to watch the tape. To look around and see that the two companies that one poster told us about, never lived up to the hype.
I actually admire how far they have come. That is built on a strong feeling that their product works and does exactly what they believe it does. My wife and I can swear by this. I just differ from you, that I see a slippery road ahead.
The purchase orders they signed, the ink is drying. But this is still the same company that use Joe Noel and this is the same company that diluted 8B shares, when they told you they wouldn't need any more. The toxic conversion on the debt will have to be replaced. The likely hold that they are done diluting, well let's pause for the laughter.
I wish you luck. Idiots like us do get lucky.
The stock is trading at $2. It ran to $30 and that was short lived. We don' know how many shares they had. This may have seemed to those investors that this was big ticket item, they could have had a very low float. But something went wrong and they didn't hold the $30 share price did they. Maybe they thought that it would get picked up by the insurance companies. But the assumptions were wrong.
This diagnostic test they came out with, was not $29 each. I'm sure, so comparing this is like comparing coachpotato to Einstein. The two examples you gave all didn't hold water and didn't materialize into long term gains, did they? So very poor examples.
I believe in Actipatch. I would love to be able to buy it, but I also feel that just because you build it, that they will come. It will take another maybe 18 months of handing out free product. That every 500 stores, maybe means $4M in revenues. They are taking steps in the right direction, but full acceptance that this is the product that will take the world by storm, is going to take longer then you think.
I believe your best shot at a win here, is a buyout. But you will need more evidence of growth and that buyout maybe be 1-3 years away. If you are hanging your hat on NEPH and VRML as indicators, you actually have made my argument stronger. Nice when the fish jump in the boat.
Doesn't take courage to post. You been doing it for many years, with no results. Yes the whole world is against you. The sub penny's you invest in, should trade like the big boys. Because you have limited understanding the trials and tribulations of a under capitalized company. You ignore the 8-10B shares. Some of us are just a little bit smarter then you give us credit for. See, you have a high opinion of yourself, because what exactly have you accomplished here?
Enjoy that bull ride again.
No one can predict the price. There is not a person on the planet that can tell you were this will settle. I have stated that you have to watch trading and if you see that day traders are going to flee the scene of the crime, you better be a step ahead of them. This is based on watching news and the extreme amount of day traders, who zero on the fast movers. Look around and see all the claims we are headed to $2. Why are those posts there, to get investors greedy. I would wager you are just as eager as I am to put some in your pocket. But being a slime ball, you are going about it with the intentions of deceiving.
Dude if this stock is stupid enough to give me 3000% climb, I there all the way. I welcome every penny. However, I'm also prepared for what could be a short trip into your fantasy world. I believe we have a greater chance for a rise and deflate, then we have of holding some imaginary valuation that some conjure up here.
How much more dilution will there be to get to sell even $100M a year in product? What happens if they do a RS? You expect 8B shares not to take a dime off the table and that's just narrow thinking on your part. The same mistakes you made 7 years ago.
You can hold till the cows come home. I heard that is how you found your last girlfriend. You just didn't realize it was a bull, till it was too late. I'm warning investors to not let what happen to you from that bull, happen to us with this stock. My theory is sell on the news and wait for it to settle. Apparently you love what that bull did to you, that you want more of it. For each his own. Bend over if you want.
I'm, selling. The day traders are going to eat you up and spit you out, like your mother should have. No one ever went broke taking profits. Just remember that. When this turkey turns on you, you will know there was one person who saw it coming and warned ahead of time, to be ready. I hope you hand me over a penny, but the higher it goes the faster it will deflate. My guess you and edbi own one stock, you took your koolaide money and plowed it into the only stock you can afford.
You not very bright and that shows everyday. Here is my headline after you see 50% of the pop vanish.
OMFG what happen here, why didn't anyone warn us about this? I could have sold and bought back triple my shares, with no out of pocket costs. This was so predictable, if I just had an ounce of intellect. I was so sure coachpotato and edbi were right here. They filled our ears with false predictions. Now looking back at the childish replies of theirs, it now is clear, the goofs in the room were the pumpers. This will be the last time I listen to ED bisexual.
Day high .009 day close .003. The winners will be the traders.
Plan on it, I now need you to do your dirty work. Watch and learn. This will be the forth time that I walked away with a profit and leave you holding your bag.