JTF, why don't you just explain why Tesla built unsold 4dr inventory while proclaiming production constraint? Avoiding the obvious makes you look sillier. (As if you need an entree'.)
What's more interesting is while there is at least one frightened thumbs-downer on this thread, not a single zealot has voiced his/her opinion on this topic.
As usual, the truth hurts, doesn't it?
and the story that Tesla is production constrained is a myth as I've said all along. What's a fact is Tesla built at least 5,000 or more unsold 4drs. While I can appreciate demo vehicles and loaners, that fleet couldn't be more than 500. REAL customer deposits could be as high as 2,000. Then what? What was the reason the other 2,500 4drs were built ESPECIALLY with Tesla being production constrained and all that. Wow! Let's see? Hmmmm? I bet those other 4drs were nothing more than for-sale inventory which blows a damn hole so large in the Musk excuse and zealot rationalization it's comical.
Tesla does NOT have a waiting list that can't be satisfied because of battery shortages. Justthefacts, you and your pals need to come up with a little bit better fairy tale. Tesla, the business, is choking. They will almost be out of cash by the end of the year because there are no more new markets. That means sales will tank just like in every other market.
This is going to get real fugly, real quick.
SInce when was Tesla a biotech company? Obviously, rhetoric always sways the dim-witted.
Tesla is nothing more than a CAR COMPANY. When will that concept move inside your ears?
Rob, you said, "....a guy who starts a new McDonald's rolls his cashflow to expand, not immediately pay back his creditors.........."
How completely ignorant can you be????
People who open those franchises can only open one at a time and must be approved BEFOREHAND, dummy. Besides, how does one "expand" a McDonald's franchise? The approval for a location is 100% based on traffic count. Has nothing to do with paying creditors because McDonald's IS the creditor, plus maybe the bank.
Honestly, you are beyond stupid. Your web site is for the delusional and without logic. Anyone dumb enough to follow you can't possibly be in touch with reality. Then again, the world is full of people who can't afford to buy their own home, like you. Instead, you rent a room in a house. Creative! Very creative!
I'm digging? LOL! I wear a bow tie? LOL!
I'm entirely amazed how many people on this board possess the unique quality of mind-reading.
I took the bait? Well, were you fishing? And is tongue-lashing your forte"? Or are you in the least interested in discussing the business? I suggest you grow up before throwing out pithy, little barbs when you first encounter someone.
In any case, I'm going to chomp on this real or perceived bait: You're now on Ignore. Congratulations!
Lone, yesterday you said you believed Tesla is battery constrained. I asked how it was possible for Tesla to then build at least 3,000 unsold vehicles in 2014? You still haven't answered.
I look forward to your, no doubt, "Industrious" and fairy tale retort.
Commi, I thank you for the sermon. You sure did straighten me out. I feel so much better.
Your ID has been on this board for what?, three weeks and you feel compelled to compare me to an over zealous Little League parent? Hilarious! Plus, you urge me to display some dignity? Equally hilarious.
If you desire to be Miss Manners, take all 35 of your posts and find a board where only the dignified communicate and don't act like Little League parents. While you're at it, try to thicken your skin. You seem to possess much too much gentrification for the rabble like me who frequent this board. You bruise too easily.
Commi, do you know me? By my post are you able to ascertain I'm somehow out of my mind with emotion? Well, those who know me would describe me as the most unemotional person they know because I never show emotions in business.
If you're able to "read" my emotional make up by these posts, then I'm a great writer! I should be a novelist! Thanks for the encouragement, Commi! I feel inspired to write a best seller.
Show dignity? I do! When someone responds in kind. That said, can you point out the indignities I've posted on this thread? Just asking..........
Lone, do you have a comeback for the build of unsold inventory? It damn sure puts a hole in your production constrained argument, doesn't it? Musk is not telling the truth about this. Tesla DOES have the ability to build everything that is sold. Because Tesla builds-to-order, technically there should be no unsold inventory. The easy excuse here is musk doesn't talk about it. Yet, the people in his stores do!
You can't ignore this and expect to maintain any shred of integrity you might have on this board. Speak up! Your silence is deafening.
Yeah, right. According to you Tesla was battery constrained and couldn't produce enough 4drs for customers. But somehow, magically, Tesla managed ti build at least 3,000 UNSOLD 4dr available to all stores, right?
Lone, you're caught in a vortex. You can't get out. Soon you will when Tesla finally admits the company is in a world of hurt.
Well, well, well! Lone staggers to the board!
Do YOU accept the premise Tesla was/is battery constrained? It's a simple yes or no answer.
I see a billion dollars of Tesla losses right now...........$1.5 billion inception-to-date.
You think $108 million is pocket change? Do YOU have $108,000 hanging around waiting to be spent?
The people who "loaned" the money have mostly tied Musk. This NEXT go-around will be far more serious. And yes, Tesla has no visible means of paying back the money because it dame sure isn't going to come from operating profit, now is it?
I never said I was smarter, or as smart as those who loaned the money. however, there are loan sharks everywhere. And I promise you these folks who loaned the money will get paid with, or without Musk.
This is, IMO, a carnival act. The media is finally coming around to smelling it. And you have a front row seat to watch a 1999 Wall Street IPO bubble re-enactment in front of your face.
A couple of years ago Tesla was close to technical default on the DOE loan before the magical stock offering happened.
But I digress. Since you don't consider me to be smart, how about YOU explaining how Tesla pays down the debt? I'd LOVE to read your reasoning.
Have you ever heard of a company being cash poor? There are tons of them. Judgement Day comes when the creditors call the loans. You want to talk about low cash/high debt? Fine. But you really don't know what you're talking about. Tesla has no way of repaying the $2 billion debt, none! I'll just say Tesla is dying at both ends. Figure out the meaning yourself, Slick.