If the market tumbles then everything tumbles. Then when the tumbles ends, it goes back to new highs. If you want to time the market go ahead.
It always happens that way. People go from one extreme to another - it is either GREAT or CRAPPIE, especially on these boards. I don't like cheerleaders or so-called bashers because the cloudy what is going on.
See Elop, you going the other way - haven't you seen that before? People make these crazy predictions on the upside, now you are making crazy prediction on the downside. One day NOK is GREAT, next day after an earnings report they are almost out of business. How many times have you seen that? It keeps repeating itself, which makes it so damn tedious and ignorant. Does anyone learn anything?!
Does anyone want the aggravation of owning a French company? It's like a mother-in-law that can't stop talking. They are telling us that the 1st Q won't be good, maybe that's why the stock get hit a little bit more vigorously.
See when people make stupid predictions? So now we get an "adjustment" in the stock price, we take our lumps or invest more (if you got it) and wait. NOK is an INVESTMENT, please see it that way. Next quarter probably not good either, until NOK has cut the cord. We'll see if we get a dividend, but hope not - I would rather grow the business than throw money to people.
The new NOK is a work in progress, shedding the old NOK. I/m investing, and not sure what others will do. The keyword again is INVESTING.
But when does luck not work? It goes both ways. You are lucky, then you are not. That's why I don't subscribe to the legalized gambling that goes on with shorting positions with calls, puts and all sorts of nonesense, predicting the future. What would happen if you just invested? It boring. No action. You want it now. Lucky today, loser tomorrow.
You then need to do research instead of making a statement with no truth. You need to read your post, it is ignorant.
Maybe it is not "wrong?" Maybe it is the illusion of zero dollars or being on the wrong side of the ledger. Our economic system is a creation by us to get things done, but it is not the only way to get things done, just the way we do things now. Some people take advantage of this system because they are powerful and have the court system in there pockets. Does that make them "smart" or "intelligent" or "gifted?" No. It is just the way it is, but no one is better than anyone else. The illusion is that there are some people who are better or more fortunate than others. We all have our torch to bare, rich or poor or whatever you are. If you want to play in the illusion and buy into all this #$%$ and media nonesence, go ahead, have fun.
But where does all this greed get them? Emptiness? Always looking, but never finding. I won't get "spiritual," but you may know where I'm going, and if not, so be it.
Earnings leaks? Then what is the purpose of having earnings in the first place? Why is this funny?
I do not want to be greedy and would forego a dividend to grow the company. Am I aware that I could be naive? Yes. There are FLAWS in the companies in this sector, which can be exploited to NOK's favor if they had more money handy, instead of giving it out for what? Patience? Entitlement? Justified? You can probably see that I am not a European. Maybe that is good or bad depending on the situation, but in this case I want NOK to hold onto the money and eventually, when the time is right after a couple of years, intiate a dividend. Let's take advantage of the FLAWS of other companies (by the way are european) and let's NOT try to be "nice." We can always be "nice" later.
Gordon Gekko: The richest one percent of this country owns half our country's wealth, five trillion dollars. One third of that comes from hard work, two thirds comes from inheritance, interest on interest accumulating to widows and idiot sons and what I do, stock and real estate speculation. It's #$%$. You got ninety percent of the American public out there with little or no net worth. I create nothing. I own. We make the rules, pal. The news, war, peace, famine, upheaval, the price per paper clip. We pick that rabbit out of the hat while everybody sits out there wondering how the hell we did it. Now you're not naive enough to think we're living in a democracy, are you buddy? It's the free market. And you're a part of it. You've got that killer instinct. Stick around pal, I've still got a lot to teach you.
Gordon Gekko: The point is ladies and gentlemen that greed, for lack of a better word, is good.
Gordon Gekko: Greed captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit.
Thank you for your suggestion on choice. But another choice that you didn't mention, if some of us held and earnings are good and it break through this trading range on the upside we have been for awhile now. You only gave us a half glass empty scenrio instead of the entire 'choice." That's not fair. Therefore, you aren't giving us any "choices," but your own. How is that choice? Did your Mom give make breakfast for you yet? Is this an oatmeal morning or eggs? Or is it your choice.