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barbershores 205 posts  |  Last Activity: Oct 5, 2015 6:15 PM Member since: Oct 15, 2005
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  • barbershores barbershores Oct 5, 2015 6:15 PM Flag

    Hi Mr. Rogere,

    From your post: "Mr. BS you actually think Mrs Clinton has to respond to every right wing nut job that post something bad about her?"
    Ms. Clinton will not likely "respond" to this article publicly. But, as I said, she will have to "deal" with it. Probably the biggest impact she will have to deal with is the on the fence democrats that this is likely to push over to the other side. The actual effect will probably be in elected democrats distancing themselves, and then there is donations. Ms. Clinton will have to "deal" with this one way or another.

    It's not like this kind of information hits the street and someone is untouched.

    This is pretty acrid stuff. Who would want to support someone so callous?

    And yeah, I think it's wicked funny. lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

    Best of luck,


  • Reply to

    That Iran thing.

    by islandboy1946 Oct 4, 2015 10:01 AM
    barbershores barbershores Oct 5, 2015 5:59 PM Flag

    Hi Mr. Rott,

    I agree with you. But we can see some pretty nice pops before it hits the fan.

    Best of luck,


  • Reply to

    Solar City has new panels that convert

    by lakeed98 Oct 2, 2015 10:01 AM
    barbershores barbershores Oct 5, 2015 5:50 PM Flag

    Mr. Boy,

    I think there is a lot more going on with PV solar than just efficiency. The efficiency merely means the number of square feet of panel required for a particular power output.

    A major part of the economics in total is installation costs. And, installation is a little less if the area of panels installed is less.

    What appears to be more significant is new lower cost production methods from new manufacturing technology and economies of scale.

    I read recently that the higher efficiency panels from solar city will be significantly more expensive than the latest panels coming out of China, even though those Chinese panels are lower efficiency.

    Efficiency has it's place, but the most important question is how much does it cost for a particular power output as installed.

    Gaining a percent or two in efficiency is great for geek points, but not relevant commercially if that comes at a higher installed cost.

    My take anyway.

    Best of luck,


  • Which is worse for nature: radiation or humans? Apparently humans are worse for nature.


    Some 30 years after the world's worst nuclear accident blasted radiation across Chernobyl, the site has evolved from a disaster zone into a nature reserve, teeming with elk, deer and wolves, scientists said on Monday.

    The remarkable turnaround in the area, which was declared a permanent no-go zone for people after the accident in 1986, suggests radiation contamination is not hindering wildlife from breeding and thriving, but underscores the negative impact humans have on populations of wild mammals.

    "When humans are removed, nature flourishes - even in the wake of the world's worst nuclear accident," said Jim Smith, a specialist in earth and environmental sciences at Britain's University of Portsmouth. "It's very likely that wildlife numbers at Chernobyl are now much higher than they were before the accident."

    After a fire and explosion at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant in 1986 threw clouds of radioactive particles into the air, thousands of people left the area, never to return.

    Smith and co-researchers took the opportunity to see what happens to wildlife in an area where contamination is heavy but people are largely absent.

    Earlier studies in the 4,200 square kilometer (1,600 square miles) Chernobyl Exclusion Zone showed major radiation effects and pronounced reductions in wildlife populations.

    But new evidence, based on long-term census data, shows that mammal populations have bounced back.

  • Reply to

    OT BS Feeling a little paranoid lately

    by barbershores Oct 2, 2015 6:59 PM
    barbershores barbershores Oct 5, 2015 5:36 PM Flag

    Hi Mr. Dan,

    From your post: " I am sure there are plenty who read this message board who wish I would shut up."

    You and I don't always agree. But, I don't want you to shut up.

    I don't even want Mr. Lakeed to shut up. I just choose not to listen to him.

    Best of luck,


  • Reply to

    That Iran thing.

    by islandboy1946 Oct 4, 2015 10:01 AM
    barbershores barbershores Oct 5, 2015 9:18 AM Flag

    Hi Mr. Boy,

    From your post: "More profit for us. "
    Nope! Along with all that oil, comes a whole lotta tankers.
    Best of luck,


  • barbershores barbershores Oct 5, 2015 9:16 AM Flag

    Hi Mr. Rogere,

    From your post: "Mr. BS I see you are quoting someone again. Do you believe this person?"
    I neither believe nor disbelieve it. But, it is an interesting perspective that I had not heard before. This article is something that is out there and has the power to bend sentiment. Ms. Clinton will have to deal with it in one way or another.

    I found it quite humorous that with all the degenerate acts recently in the news committed by secret service agents, that the worst punishment might be to be assigned to protect Hillary Clinton. That would mean that the absolute worst acting agents surround Ms. Clinton. The ones most likely to be drunk, on drugs, or slipping out for a rendezvous. Ms. Clinton really attracts the best. Sigh!

    Maybe this is a very public example of how karma actually works. lol

    My wife and I have recently been enjoying/re-enjoying old episodes of "My Name Is Earl" on Netflix.

    Best of luck,


  • Oil up as Russia ready to talk with oil suppliers, US rig count drops


    "Russia's energy minister said on Saturday that it was ready to meet with OPEC and non-OPEC oil producers to discuss global oil markets if such a meeting was called. He said a separate meeting between Russian and Saudi officials was being planned for the end of October."
    I have been expecting Russia to get oil religion for awhile now. Russia used to prefer to just laugh at the Arabian oil ministry. They aren't laughing any more.

    Every month, the Arabian oil minister calls up all the players and asks these questions:

    1. How is your economy doing?
    2. How is the current low price of oil affecting your economy?
    3. Is it as painful for you as I hear it is for all the others?
    4. Are you ready to play ball and joint the new OPEC?

    If you're not ready yet, I will call you next month. We will not allow the price to rise much until everybody is on board.

    The new and improved OPEC will be much bigger containing bigger players such as Russia and maybe even Mexico, and they will act in unison, at least initially. Instead of controlling 40% of global oil production, it will be more like 60%.

    It's just a matter of time.

    My take anyway.

    Best of luck,


  • Reply to

    OT BS Feeling a little paranoid lately

    by barbershores Oct 2, 2015 6:59 PM
    barbershores barbershores Oct 3, 2015 6:29 PM Flag

    Hi Mr. Dakine,

    Your question from your post: "Why did you pick on the government? How about the private sector."
    I find it odd that you would ask such a thing. The reason I look at the problems with the government is that they have the power of force over my life. They have the power to put me in jail, or send armed mercenaries to my door to arrest, and if I don't comply, kill me legally. The government has the power to take all I have. My home, my car, my bank accounts, my retirement, my health insurance, all the rights granted me in the bill of rights.

    The private sector? All they can do is offer me choices. If I don't like them, I choose something else.

    The government is anti choice. You must do this. You must do that. You are forbidden to do these other things. Or, we will arrest you, or take away your possessions, or fine you, or tax you. They can lean on you if you don't think their way or agree with the current administration. Government agencies are supposed to be "for" the people. But apparently, only if one is the right kind of person.

    I find it very very odd that you would have to ask somebody why.

    Best of luck,


  • Secret Service agents have done such a poor job that all of them are now being required to guard Hillary Clinton.


    "Secret Service agents: Hillary is a nightmare to work with"
    Secret Service “agents consider being assigned to her detail a form of punishment,” Kessler concludes. “In fact, agents say being on Hillary Clinton’s detail is the worst duty assignment in the Secret Service.”

    "After studying the Secret Service and its relationships with dozens of presidents, vice-presidents and their families, Ronald Kessler’s astonishment at Hillary Clinton’s inhumanity should reverberate in every American’s head."

    "As he told me: “No one would hire such a person to work at a McDonald’s, and yet she is being considered for president of the United States.”"


    Best of luck,


  • Reply to

    does lakeed actually trade stocks or

    by oropan45 Oct 2, 2015 3:41 PM
    barbershores barbershores Oct 2, 2015 7:15 PM Flag

    Hi Mr. Pan,

    Feeding trolls causes them to produce mountainous quantities of bile and feculence.

    Life is much much too short to get bogged down in it.

    One of the best features of the Yahoo stock boards is the ignore button.

    My take anyway.

    Best of luck,


    P.S. Don't forget to clean off your shoes before you enter your home.

  • When government agencies have all the information on you, they can use it to their advantage. And they do.


    The latest incident turned personal when an assistant director of the Secret Service even suggested leaking embarrassing information to retaliate against the Utah Republican, according to a report by the Homeland Security Department's inspector general, John Roth. His report said the actions could represent criminal violations under the U.S. Privacy Act.

    View galleryFILE - In this April 29, 2015, file photo, House Oversight …
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    "It doesn't take a lawyer explaining the nuances of the Privacy Act to know that the conduct that occurred here — by dozens of agents in every part of the agency — was wrong," the report said.

    Roth's latest report brought an abrupt end to a wave of applause for the agency's handling of Pope Francis's six-day tour of the United States. Chaffetz said he even wrote a letter congratulating the agency.

    Then he learned about the full extent of a data breach first discovered when a story was published about his 2003 job application by The Daily Beast, on Internet publication.

    "It's intimidating," Chaffetz said. "It's what it was supposed to be."

  • Reply to

    Trump for President

    by suggp Sep 28, 2015 4:19 PM
    barbershores barbershores Sep 28, 2015 10:49 PM Flag

    Hi Mr. Grumpy,

    In response to your questions:

    1. "What government expenditures would you cut?"
    All of them.

    2. "Whose social security and medicare would you propose to reduce "

    3. "How many folks should be eliminated from the medicaid roles? "
    None of them

    4. "Perhaps farm supports should be eliminated? Which ones?
    All of them should be reduced

    5. "Maybe we cut back on military expenditures? Where and how?"
    Everywhere. Use less.

    Sounds to me like Mr. Trump wants to reduce taxes, not raise them.

    If you reduce taxes, and not cut expenditures, you need a pretty big increase in economic activity to make up for the difference. Or, the national debt will just rise all the faster. Our low low interest rates have been the blunt instrument to attempt to cause economic growth, but it hasn't been very effective.

    I don't expect cutting taxes will have much of an effect either as screwed up as the markets have gotten.

    As you increase taxes, a destimulus of the economy would occur. To offset that, the government would have to spend more.

    Most of what would happen is just a shift of who does the spending. Less by individuals, and more by government. But, government is already spending way too much.
    Eliminating taxes for those earning less than $50,000 while raising earned income tax receipts on those making more than $50,000 wouldn't have that big of an impact. Most of the high income folks have a relatively small percentage of their income coming in as earned. Most of it comes in as long term capital gains.

    There would be a much larger impact to government receipts by raising capital gains rates than raising earned income tax rates.

    Current policy is for government to tax more, spend more, and grow the debt faster.



  • Reply to

    Trump for President

    by suggp Sep 28, 2015 4:19 PM
    barbershores barbershores Sep 28, 2015 10:13 PM Flag

    The biggest issue isn't taxes. It is government expenditures.

    Should the US tax receipts drop 10%, our national debt will just rise all the faster.

    Expenditures are out of control. We need them under control.

    We need a real budget.

    My take anyway.

    Best of luck,


  • barbershores barbershores Sep 26, 2015 4:32 PM Flag

    Another nuclear article.


    "China recently renewed its commitment to tripling its nuclear capacity to 58 GW by 2020 and India is planning on adding 20 to 30 reactors by 2030, which would increase that nation's reactor count by 100%-150%.

    Meanwhile due to growing world population and economic development in emerging economies, global electricity consumption is likely to double from 2007 levels by 2030.

    A 2013 study by the World Nuclear Association projects that by 2030, 74 nuclear plants will be retired while 272 are brought online. China -- a nation that has long struggled with catastrophic air pollution but a need to expand power generation to fuel economic growth – is expected to construct 108 of these new reactors.

    Global growth of nuclear power is likely to be aided by advances in technology that address two of the biggest concerns with current reactor design: the production of radioactive waste, and the threat of a meltdown."
    "It's true that solar and wind are intermittent sources of energy, but considering the decade long timeframe it takes to build a nuclear plant and the progress made in renewable energy in the past 10 years would you bet that the energy storage problem is solved first or nuclear reactors cut costs?

    I'm betting on renewable energy solving its issues and becoming a viable caseload source. I'll take an energy source that's cutting costs any day over one that's seeing costs spiral out of control. That's why I think it's only a matter of time before nuclear energy is seen as a high cost luxury that even developing countries can't afford. "

  • Reply to

    Tanker rates 70k and fro continue to trend lower.

    by rami36 Sep 25, 2015 7:09 PM
    barbershores barbershores Sep 25, 2015 8:31 PM Flag

    Hi Mr. Rami,

    Calling it right? Lets see, you have two different times you post. One when FRO's share price has peaked near resistance and started falling. But you badmouth it like it is going to break down below support. It hasn't.

    Then, there are the times Frontline gets close to Support. Boy, you really bad mouth it and say how it is going down, but then it stops going down, bounces, and heads back up. That's when you typically shut up and go away for awhile.

    To keep badmouthing a company as if it were in a down trend when it is actually in a sideways rolling pattern doesn't qualify as being on the correct side more than incorrect in my book. You keep calling down trend. The down trend ended last year.

    I don't know if you read my other recent posts, but to recap, Frontline broke out and ran up to $4.50 last year. Then it pulled back. Not back down to the $1.25 where you were telling everybody they should short. It pulled back to a level well above that. And since then it has been congesting. Moving sideways. With broad rolls both up and down. No real down trend in sight

    Back last year and before, I had posted about how it was in a down trend long before you came on this board. Then, when it bottomed, and you were saying short, I did say this was not a good short location. That the downtrend appeared over and that it was more likely to go up from here than down.

    Another thing you missed, big time, was that the fundamentals of the sector had changed. You kept saying "go short". But, the economic conditions that previously made Frontline a good short candidate had changed. You went for months not realizing or acknowledging this fact.

    When Frontline was in a down trend, and you were screaming "short" you were correct. Since then, not so much.

    The only thing I can see that may be a big negative for Frontline is the Iranian agreement. If those ships are released, it will hurt the sector. If not, FRO will do well.

    Just my take.


  • Bill Gates Terrapower and China national nuclear corp will build a prototype traveling wave reactor- a liquid sodium-cooled fast reactor


    TerraPower’s traveling wave reactor (TWR) is designed to be a 1150 megawatt-electric liquid sodium-cooled fast reactor that uses depleted uranium as fuel. It will greatly simplify the current nuclear fuel cycle by reducing the need for uranium mining, enrichment facilities, reprocessing plants and storage facilities. This will result in enormous cost savings, highly enhanced safety, greatly reduced toxic waste, greater ease in waste disposal and a high level of weapons proliferation resistance

    TerraPower’s sodium-cooled TWR will improve resource utilization many times over from existing nuclear reactors which can only burn less than fi ve percent of their uranium fuel. The key innovations in the TWR are advancements in fuel, materials and engineering, which allow TWRs to use fuel much more effi ciently and over a longer period of time.

    These innovations will allow TWRs to utilize depleted uranium (DU), rather than enriched uranium, as their primary fuel. By using inexpensive DU, the TWR will produce its own fissionable fuel capable of sustaining a fi ssion chain reaction for decades. The greater utilization of fuel will allow TWRs to load enough fuel up-front to last for up to 40 years. Contrast that against current reactors that must replace and store fuel assemblies every 18 to 24 months. The TWR stores used assemblies inside the core, obviating the need for external storage, transportation and disposal.

    The first TWR will demonstrate key plant equipment, qualify the fuel and materials for longer term use, and provide the technical, licensing and economic basis for commercial TWRs. This prototype is expected to be constructed between 2018 and 2023. After a suitable period of testing and optimization, commercial plants are expected to be licensed with start

  • barbershores barbershores Sep 25, 2015 7:30 PM Flag

    Hi Mr. Deeds,
    From your post: " But is this already built into the stock price?"
    Right or wrong, I think what "is" built into the stock price is the current profitability of the company with the expectation that the current cash flow situation will continue for an extended period of time.

    The problem right now is that even with spot rates up nicely, there is minimal positive impact to Frontline's profitability. Mostly because of how things have been structured to maximize safety at the expense of profitability. I think buyers/speculators/investors have a wait and see attitude. They want to see rising profits in the current environment to prove that there is more potential than what has been demonstrated in the last couple of announcements.

    This said, if spot rates stay up, and if the share price is down towards support running into the next earnings announcement, we may see a heck of a run into the announcement.

    Just my take.

    Best of luck,


  • Reply to

    Tanker rates 70k and fro continue to trend lower.

    by rami36 Sep 25, 2015 7:09 PM
    barbershores barbershores Sep 25, 2015 7:16 PM Flag

    Hi Mr. Rami,

    From your post: "Your all very delusional for thinking this will trade over 3 dollars"
    First we were all delusional for thinking FRO would trade over $1.50.

    Then, we were all delusional for thinking FRO would trade over $2.00.

    Finally, we were all delusional for thinking FRO would trade over $3.00 earlier this year. It ran up to $4.50.

    Now you are starting the whole thing up again, but instead of $1.50, your "delusional determination point" is now double that at 3 once again.

    Must mean that FRO is headed for nine bucks I guess.

    Best of luck,


  • barbershores barbershores Sep 24, 2015 2:36 PM Flag

    Hi Mr. Stocks,

    I want to address the technical issues before I answer your questio.

    Sorry to state the obvious but:

    Frontline has been in a sideways rolling pattern since end of last year.

    This was following a huge upwards move which topped out.

    The pull back from that peak was actually rather small relative to the size of the last major run up last year.

    Looks to me like it is just consolidating following that last huge leg up.

    I'm sure Mr. Rami doesn't want to be reminded of it, but the stock went up to over 4 and a half bucks after his recommendation to short it at $1.25ish.

    In this sideways rolling pattern, the distance between the 50 and the 200dsmas has been getting smaller over time. This is normal for a stock in consolidation.

    The share price, the 50dsma, and the 200dsma are at the same price. So, to me, this cross is of no particular significance. It's less of a cross, and more of a convergence.

    Now then, in answer to the question From your post: "My question to you is: what catalyst do you see in the tea leaves would suggest management effectiveness has improved to sustain a 200 dma to move and stay above $3.50?"
    1st. Short to medium term, always follow the spot rates. Try to identify longer term trends.

    2nd. Anticipate the movement into the next earnings announcement.

    Management will shift strategy to meet what they consider the best method to profit and maintain security. As spot rates rise and appear to be longer lived, management will shift strategies away from safety and more towards profitability. If the current high spot rate trend continues, you will see more mergers, more tankers exposed to spot, and better agreements with 3rd party partners. So, earnings will tend to rise non linearly. And with that, the share price should rise non linearly as well.

    All this until Iran's tankers are released. Then any positive trend will probably end.

    Just my take.

    Best of luck,


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