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bbandassoc 95 posts  |  Last Activity: 14 hours ago Member since: May 31, 2011
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    Nice job today.....

    by bbandassoc Sep 9, 2014 9:14 PM
    bbandassoc bbandassoc Sep 9, 2014 10:17 PM Flag

    LOL. Actually, divide that by 7. So, whatever 112,500 times 1/7 of $418+ is. But, I am not selling nor is the stock heading to the $80's. It my go to $94 or $95, but who really cares. It will go up substantively based on the new technologies, China Mobile and IBM deals and won't take long to do so. In the meantime, fishing is great this time of year.

  • Reply to

    Nice job today.....

    by bbandassoc Sep 9, 2014 9:14 PM
    bbandassoc bbandassoc Sep 9, 2014 9:22 PM Flag

    Yes, blind. Yet, I bought over 100,000 shares at an average cost basis of less than $420, so perhaps it's not so bad to be blind.

  • bbandassoc bbandassoc Sep 9, 2014 9:19 PM Flag

    You are clueless about how stocks trade. The substance of what they presented today was spectacular and the stock will trade at $120+ by year-end. Yet, there are those who sell on the news and those who may be taking profits for the Alibaba IPO. But, the idea that the new products are not going to generate substantive additional profits is absurd.

  • bbandassoc by bbandassoc Sep 9, 2014 9:14 PM Flag

    The new offering represents a tremendous amount of profit potential in the coming year or two and the stock will react once the trading and Alibaba IPO are past. I would be surprised, even in a bad market, if Apple isn't trading at $120+ by year-end. A few key things today include 1) the subsidy model is alive and well as evidenced by VZ offering the iPhone 6 for free with a trade-in (they need Apple for the data usage more than they need to reduce the subsidies), 2) Apple Pay is going to gain a foothold quickly and has not been included in any analyst models, so upgrades are on the way, and 3) the iWatch can be a margin enhancer with the higher priced models and while magnitude and pace of adoption is unknown, I want several for family and I am sure others will want them too, especially those interested in the health and fitness utility.

  • Reply to

    KMI Funds

    by bbandassoc Aug 26, 2014 9:54 AM
    bbandassoc bbandassoc Aug 29, 2014 4:18 PM Flag

    Good points, and yes, I was speaking of KMP and (I believe) El Paso as well, if I am not mistaken. All part of KMI.

  • Reply to

    AAPL will open up big on Tuesday

    by a2020trading Aug 29, 2014 9:01 AM
    bbandassoc bbandassoc Aug 29, 2014 9:25 AM Flag

    Apple has big Mondays nearly every week. The best investment anyone could make is to buy big on any down movement on Thursday or Friday and simply hold until late Monday. Tuesday is often very positive as well. Wednesday thru Friday is usually a crap shoot. That said, I agree with you. It's end of month and many money managers will want to show Apple in their portfolio given its rise. Also, with the date official and rumors rampant, they will want to buy Tuesday morning when they return from vacation en masse.

  • bbandassoc bbandassoc Aug 28, 2014 12:14 PM Flag

    Last time around, I bought my trading position at $13.45 and you or someone else said they were waiting for $13 and was right. I exited my $13.45 trade at $14.70 along with the 25% of my highest cost long position that was purchased at $14.70 as it was my highest priced long position and my hope was to be able to increase the size of my trading positions. Fortunately, that has worked out nicely. I agree VALE will be much higher in the future and I am satisfied with my sub-$14 long and knowing I have already locked in my long-term capital gains rate when that time comes. That's a long-winded way of saying I just put a bid in at $12.95 to start a new trade.

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    KMI Funds

    by bbandassoc Aug 26, 2014 9:54 AM
    bbandassoc bbandassoc Aug 26, 2014 11:01 AM Flag

    U r missing point. If KMI is no longer an MLP in the coming weeks, then, the funds with charters to invest in MLPs will reallocate funding. It's just a fact.

  • bbandassoc by bbandassoc Aug 26, 2014 9:54 AM Flag

    Perhaps one advantage LINE has over LNCO near-term is that the monies invested in MLP funds will have to be reallocated from KMI. LINE should benefit from the reallocation.

  • bbandassoc bbandassoc Aug 15, 2014 4:09 AM Flag

    The 38% cut in subsidies announced last evening will hurt Apple in China and with all three carriers cutting subsidies at the governments demand it could take a lot of wind out of the sails. Still, CM will get iPhone 6 in the first round.

  • bbandassoc bbandassoc Aug 6, 2014 9:56 PM Flag

    If I'm not mistaken, they go ex-dividend tomorrow and we are in a sell the news market at the moment, so I would think it would take a very strong report for them to be green tomorrow. For me, I will be satisfied if they say nothing that causes me concern re: the viability of the business model and that they are making progress with the BRY and DVN deals with an improving pay-out ratio. Otherwise, I will enjoy my monthly distributions and enjoy the show. What the stock does is not my primary concern. GLTA

  • Reply to

    Dividend to be cut

    by ding_king2000 Aug 1, 2014 10:34 PM
    bbandassoc bbandassoc Aug 2, 2014 7:09 AM Flag

    You must have missed the results and call, so let me fill you in. Cash flow was up and already sufficient to cover the dividend. Cash flow is forecast to increase further in 2H14 due to higher volume, lower cap-ex and anticipated higher I/O prices. More likely to see a special additional dividend than a cut.

  • bbandassoc by bbandassoc Jul 31, 2014 3:03 PM Flag

    Seems to me they had a reasonable quarter considering I/O pricing, but their guidance is quite bullish with projected higher volumes, higher prices, and lower cap-ex expenditure. Perhaps this was the trough quarter? GLTA

  • Reply to

    Iron Ore Prices

    by warped_economics Jul 29, 2014 9:30 AM
    bbandassoc bbandassoc Jul 29, 2014 10:24 AM Flag

    There are two major influences on VALE stock price. First, there are the macroeconomics surrounding iron ore, including price, demand, supply, etc. Second, there is the inflow and outflow of monies into and out of Brazil. For quite awhile, money has been flowing out of Brazil ETFs and other investments due to the government. Shorts piled on businesses, like VALE, to where it is one of the most shortest stocks around. However, with the recent government stimulus and upcoming elections, money is flowing back into Brazilian ETFs. This has the shorts somewhat caught should things to continue to improve. VALE is grossly undervalued and could rise 25%+ just to be valued equal to its peers, unrelated to iron ore. On the iron ore front, while prices may not cooperate for some time, China is improving and VALE is now increasing supply along with much lower operating costs. They will do just fine in this environment until price increases again. The smaller players with higher costs will get squeezed out along the way creating demand for the larger, lower cost suppliers, albeit at lower prices than in the past.

  • Reply to

    Earnings Response

    by recombinantman Jul 25, 2014 2:11 PM
    bbandassoc bbandassoc Jul 25, 2014 4:26 PM Flag

    Not uncommon to see a stock retreat after announcing a big deal and going into a quiet period. In this case, there is the backdrop of political grandstanding about inversions in general (though I doubt anyone really thinks Congress will act before this deal is done). Still, we are not likely to go much higher (and may go lower) before the deal is done and the stock that gets put in the hands of those who don't want to hold it are flushed through. I did note Gonzalez said there would be a large stock buyback upon completing the deal. That said, I will add on any weakness because this will be a $70+ stock later in 2015 IMO.

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