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benzilla999 61 posts  |  Last Activity: 17 hours ago Member since: Mar 29, 2006
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    WHY PRICE DOWN SO MUCH AFTER HOURS?

    by cashbar1 19 hours ago
    benzilla999 benzilla999 17 hours ago Flag

    There has been a lot of trading today with spikes. In the morning, it would trade up down quite a bit. I saw differentials of $0.60 in seconds.

    After hours there is not a lot of volume so your going to see a lot of movement.

    Good luck

  • Reply to

    Every week...

    by emiller992000 22 hours ago
    benzilla999 benzilla999 17 hours ago Flag

    The trend is up so it is good. I think that the stock will trade more normally when the momo leave and the options don't have an affect on the stock. However, the stock wont make monster moves like it did in the past because it has become a "bigger stable stock". This does not mean that great gains wont happen over time but consecutive big moves are a thing of the past.

    As long as FB grows, the share price grow.

  • Reply to

    FINALLY THE BREAKOUT

    by beaconbart 21 hours ago
    benzilla999 benzilla999 17 hours ago Flag

    There is not really enough volume to confirm a breakout. That does not mean that it wont go up or down.

  • Reply to

    2014 eps

    by friedaynt Mar 3, 2015 11:03 AM
    benzilla999 benzilla999 Mar 3, 2015 11:39 AM Flag

    The numbers that you use are Non-GAAP which don't include all expenses. The trailing PE is derived from GAAP numbers which do include all expenses, therefore the listed PE is correct.

  • Reply to

    FB's PE

    by friedaynt Mar 3, 2015 10:16 AM
    benzilla999 benzilla999 Mar 3, 2015 10:41 AM Flag

    The guided estimates are for the end of 2016 not 2015. The forward estimates are also Non-GAAP so the actual pe will be higher.

    FB is not a value stock. It is a growth stock. A stock is not undervalued according to growth but its price can appreciate due to growth. ..........The market either believes the growth story or not. If market does believe story the stock rises. If it doesn't the stock drops.

    Easy as that.

  • benzilla999 by benzilla999 Feb 27, 2015 9:56 AM Flag

    80.........17497
    79..........13419

    That is not huge amounts but buyers need to come in at a fair volume to turn green....Otherwise the option arbitrage traders will control the market today.

  • Reply to

    fb will surpass aapl

    by scottshuler Feb 25, 2015 2:36 PM
    benzilla999 benzilla999 Feb 27, 2015 12:53 AM Flag

    That has nothing to do with FB getting into China. Just a nice little feel good piece.

    Kung hei fat choi.........Happy new year!

  • Reply to

    fb will surpass aapl

    by scottshuler Feb 25, 2015 2:36 PM
    benzilla999 benzilla999 Feb 26, 2015 8:46 AM Flag

    I never gave a price point.

  • Reply to

    fb will surpass aapl

    by scottshuler Feb 25, 2015 2:36 PM
    benzilla999 benzilla999 Feb 26, 2015 8:45 AM Flag

    1st Facebook and China has been a want before the IPO.
    2nd Facebook says they expect it to be hard to get in to China and the expect it to take a long time.
    3rd After Snowden, China has been kicking out US tech.

    The biggest reason is China has a different story to tell than we do. China does not want free flow of information. Facebook as well as all other tech outside of China will have a hard time capturing the market of China.

    People look at China because it is potentially another billion people who can be users of any service that gets in.

    I don't need a crystal ball. I just need to look at what happened a couple years ago.......FB didn't get into China. I listen to what Facebook says. I see what is happening with current tech and I look at the reason that Facebook is not in China. I am not saying it will never happen but I am just saying there is a lot that has to happen before Facebook is in China full force. It will also happen incrementally.

    I don't let the shares dictate what I think. I am not married to a stock...........It would be nice if Facebook was in China but it will happen gradually and it will have to be negotiated and it will most likely be combined with another company with stake inside China.

    Several years back people have said Facebook would be in China in months. Where are we now?

  • Reply to

    fb will surpass aapl

    by scottshuler Feb 25, 2015 2:36 PM
    benzilla999 benzilla999 Feb 25, 2015 4:01 PM Flag

    No buyback, no significant presence in China anytime soon. Twitter app and phone......yawn. What do you want us to mark? Neither Google nor Apple is going to buy Facebook........That you can mark.

    Look at the real stuff that is good like growing revenues and stay away from the fantasy and hubris.

  • Reply to

    WHAT THE [HECK]: I THINK FB SEES $80 TODAY...

    by mr_in_out Feb 24, 2015 10:27 AM
    benzilla999 benzilla999 Feb 25, 2015 12:24 PM Flag

    Its kind of tough. I am not a believer in coincidence and fall in line with statistics. I don't think they can make the trend into a straight line. They can try but there are too many other counter trades.

    My trades have moved more into swing trades that are 3 to 5 days. I look at yesterday's chart and it is simply screwy. If this pattern was over 2 weeks, yeah I could see it. It appears as though when it went up the mm sold and when it went down the mm bought. This wouldn't have been damped unless the mm where trading the majority of the shares.

    With only 18 million share trading, what did they have to gain? I mean they did not catch too many people with the anemic trading and they decreased the pain as time passed through the day.

    Oh well, as the old adage goes.............How many licks does it take to get to the center of the Tootsie Pop....1,2,3 crunch....The world may never know............................and so goes the stock market.........We may never know.

  • Reply to

    WHAT THE [HECK]: I THINK FB SEES $80 TODAY...

    by mr_in_out Feb 24, 2015 10:27 AM
    benzilla999 benzilla999 Feb 25, 2015 12:04 PM Flag

    Wow!! I was back in the days of BJT's. Tubes carry a lot of power. I wish I knew them better. I would like to design a sweet sounding tube amp.

  • Reply to

    WHAT THE [HECK]: I THINK FB SEES $80 TODAY...

    by mr_in_out Feb 24, 2015 10:27 AM
    benzilla999 benzilla999 Feb 24, 2015 11:08 AM Flag

    Yeah that sounds good. You tune it so the oscillations grow. :D

  • Reply to

    WHAT THE [HECK]: I THINK FB SEES $80 TODAY...

    by mr_in_out Feb 24, 2015 10:27 AM
    benzilla999 benzilla999 Feb 24, 2015 11:05 AM Flag

    These patterns are too contrived. I don't know who designed these algos but it is proof that true randomness cant be achieved. Throw my hat in the conspiracy theorist ring.

  • Reply to

    WHAT THE [HECK]: I THINK FB SEES $80 TODAY...

    by mr_in_out Feb 24, 2015 10:27 AM
    benzilla999 benzilla999 Feb 24, 2015 10:43 AM Flag

    The chart looks like a damped oscillation. Each coil is smaller than the first. This should have some pretty good pressure. It will break either way depending on the outcome of FOMC etal.

    Anyway weird pattern. Looks like a damped Oscillating RLC circuit with almost perfect sinusoids.

  • Reply to

    If it swings off $80

    by benzilla999 Feb 20, 2015 9:42 AM
    benzilla999 benzilla999 Feb 20, 2015 9:57 AM Flag

    Its just hanging there but there is a lot of volume so far.

  • benzilla999 by benzilla999 Feb 20, 2015 9:42 AM Flag

    With any momentum, it will drop hard. It could hang and base and then we can see the mm and their shenanigans. A hard upward swing may get the stock out of pin range.

    $80 is the center of it all. Then just follow the mo.

  • Reply to

    Today's close

    by vtx52 Feb 20, 2015 8:12 AM
    benzilla999 benzilla999 Feb 20, 2015 9:34 AM Flag

    The thing is if a person wants to to cash in for instance an option which is expiring the market makers have to buy it. If you have ever written calls and been assigned, you notice that a short position is put into your when you are assigned. Also at the point where they buy back a call, they can short the stock and basically have a position where they make their nickel or dime and if the stock goes up or down they don't lose.

    Its a mechanic of how the mm have to wrap options which expire today. The hard part is seeing how the options are positioned in different spreads and scenarios which may not need to be wrapped. They may just expire. What I usually look for is abnormally high OI and also daily volume. Sometimes the price just seems to fly even though there looks to be a high amount of options that need to be unwound.

    There could be the big fund or institution that bought yesterday may act counter to the options market makers. Without volume we will see the market makers will pull the stock towards the higher volumes of option contracts.

  • Reply to

    Today's close

    by vtx52 Feb 20, 2015 8:12 AM
    benzilla999 benzilla999 Feb 20, 2015 8:34 AM Flag

    Yea there Is gigantic oi all the way down to $78. It will be interesting to see if there is continuing momo from yesterday or if the big buyer is still buying. If not it will be in the hands of the options market makers.

  • Reply to

    Price Appreciation

    by redshirtsophomore Feb 19, 2015 8:16 PM
    benzilla999 benzilla999 Feb 20, 2015 8:29 AM Flag

    It was weird to watch. I would think there would be a little more stealth but that is just me.

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