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beststockstoownnow 370 posts  |  Last Activity: Apr 18, 2014 11:09 AM Member since: Dec 6, 2012
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  • beststockstoownnow beststockstoownnow Mar 25, 2014 10:39 AM Flag

    Its a fill the small niche market play, so the stories depend on each new market and hype.IMO Yesterday it was California, it now sees soft sales it appears, then it was other states, then Europe and then China. Problem is: if the sales do not ramp up, as they appear NOT to be doing on a continuing basis, then ALL the rosy projections collapse. Which is exactly what I see. The result: it is a good vehicle for a few, but I do not see mass sales anywhere near their projections. The stock now reflects that these sales are a done deal, which appears to be WRONG. So result: stock trends down, and reaches a reasonable level. I see under $75 now, IF sales at least stay reasonable. Otherwise it crumbles.IMO

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • This stock has been downtrending for days, with distribution evident. I see any relief rally as one more chance to sell before it continues down. Play it as you like, but the fact is selling has been going on before yesterdays spike down. Today is a gift for those wanting to get out, if that even lasts.IMO

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Reply to

    Attn: Coach

    by futurecartsla Mar 23, 2014 7:45 PM
    beststockstoownnow beststockstoownnow Mar 24, 2014 9:34 PM Flag

    Get a grip folks. Tesla is a car, it gets sold. When it gets, if ever to big volume, it will require big infrastructure with all the same issues as everyone else that is big in the industry: service, recalls, law suits, advertising, promotion, salespeople, competition etc etc etc. It is laughable how much time is wasted on acting as though this is really different in the end. Because now, Tesla is a tiny niche filling item, every kind of projection and wild call will be heard, backed by Wall Street pundits with long positions. Of course, because they are guesses, with a motivation behind then, they are basically meaningless.. NOBODY knows for more than a year or two, which cars will sell, in what numbers and what other new technologies will be brought out by majors as well. Projecting 6 to 10 years out, and worse buying a stock based on that, is sooooooo f'n dumb, as to be seriously laughable, but just look at the touts every day here. So whatever happens here, I suspect a far lower price continuing out over next year at least, interspersed by more stupid calls for prices picked out of thin air for the manic sheeples. The lessons that should have been learned, forgotten even by the booya crew it seems. Oh how the U.S. likes to manipulate its vulnerable investors over and over and over.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • beststockstoownnow by beststockstoownnow Mar 24, 2014 12:40 PM Flag

    Everything above that was pure hype and manic stupid buyers who do not even have a clue about earnings, possibilities of selling cars, problems with battery factory even getting built, less making any money. Competition looms, long before this story can even get to where sales are supposed to justify price now. Want to wait 10 years? Then hold! LOL

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Reply to

    Was that the bottom ($210)?

    by jmcbride383 Mar 24, 2014 11:27 AM
    beststockstoownnow beststockstoownnow Mar 24, 2014 12:36 PM Flag

    Not even close. Try sub $100. You will not believe it till it happens of course, and then folks will say, oh it was soooo obviously overvalued along with the markets and many bubble stocks. Some things never change, and this is one of them. First emotional investors, then denial when the inevitable drops follow manic rises. Then of course the blaming of everything and everyone other than themselves. The warnings have been many and logical. This is overvalued. EOS IMO WAY OVERVALUED!

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • beststockstoownnow beststockstoownnow Mar 24, 2014 11:00 AM Flag

    Nothing wrong. Its a burst bubble. Usually the sheeples just stare and babble on about how it is different, it will go to some nonsensical price and watch ALL their profits disappear and or losses grow. Know when to sell. It is THE MOST IMPORTANT thing, as protecting your money is the first lesson. Odds here, when you look at price, valuations, market conditions etc etc say SELL to me. Without a doubt. As I have said for some time. But sheeples NEVER listen until it is too late, that is why they are called sheeples. Sad but true.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Laugh, but I would check out my past recommendations to do DD on. SPY.V in Canada will get bought out within 6 months, in my opinion, or go up 3 to 5 times in price. Right sector, cheap, and growing. My advice: look for inexpensive underappreciated companies on the market drops. That is where the real big gains are going to be made. You know: like TSLA when it was under $50 not over $200! LOL

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • You know what should be scary to anyone smart? These ALL have better profiles.IMO The lesson everyone should have learned even recently: bubbles: Nasdaq 2000, Gold 2 years ago, Biotech in some cases, Real Estate, and various other situations, is that THIS is THE SAME. But many just do not EVER get it, because they can't be objective. So they lose.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • beststockstoownnow beststockstoownnow Mar 24, 2014 10:21 AM Flag

    High targets from usual suspects. Take a look at what the ones who say sub $100 coming. You can dream, but those big targets are YEARS out, not for current price, and that ONLY if everything works for 5 to 10 YEARS without a hitch. So many better risk versus reward situations. Why anyone buys this now is what is funny to me. It simply is too expensive. IMO EOS

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • beststockstoownnow beststockstoownnow Mar 24, 2014 10:16 AM Flag

    This just the start of competition responding. They have huge infrastructures, money and time. With alternate technologies well into development. Time frames for Tesla, so far into future, price of stock ridiculous at these levels. Risk is huge.IMO Reward ONLY if they do better than overly optimistic assumptions already priced in. Many just do not get how simple this is: car good, projections very high, stock ALREADY prices this in today. So tomorrow: ??? What is the upside ten years from now??? Why would I care???

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • beststockstoownnow beststockstoownnow Mar 24, 2014 10:09 AM Flag

    Far more likely they will buy Volkswagens new battery technology, just announced. It is 4 TIMES better they say. You think that is not a serious competitive advantage for Volkswagen?

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • beststockstoownnow beststockstoownnow Mar 24, 2014 10:02 AM Flag

    Now that is very funny. Others have target all over the place. Some as low as $35. When you stop and look at these overblown momentum plays, you realize how this is just the "same old thing" Bubbles that burst when folks wake up from their insane emotional rationalizations about the future. This is so overvalued that it will be YEARS before we even know IF they can sell enough to justify TODAYS price. That is reality and actually a fact, if you care to look at the figures and projections.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • beststockstoownnow by beststockstoownnow Mar 24, 2014 9:58 AM Flag

    Nothing to do with whether car is good or bad, yet. It is sooo simple: the STOCK is OVERVALUED in a huge way. Only a seriously bad investor would not recognize this very simple fact. Meanwhile the hedgie will get a wedgie, and the sheep will get sheered. imo eos

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • The sales here are a small tiny share of market. Reality check. It will take years to ramp up, if ever, as big demand in terms of auto industry are a decade away if they are lucky.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • The car might sell well, over the next years, or not. Nobody here knows. What smart investors realize, is that the current price represents full value if all goes extremely well for thr next years. Which means it has done its thing already and the risk outweighs the gains at this point. If it was at $35 it would be a good speculation on whether it achieved the hoped for sales, but at anything over $100 it is far from a good choice. That is what the real debate is regarding the stock. Too expensive.imo why buy such a stock that has already priced in perfection for years to come. Makes no sense.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • beststockstoownnow beststockstoownnow Mar 22, 2014 9:56 PM Flag

    "Never trust a car salesman" well isn't that what the head of Tesa is? So i guess your right. That would mean sell Tesla, right? Roflmao

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • beststockstoownnow by beststockstoownnow Mar 22, 2014 9:51 PM Flag

    All a bunch of ridiculous say nothing fluff, if you read it carefully, sure to sucker more folks into this way overvalued stock. If it does this, then uh du, growth. How brilliant! If i flap my arms hard enough, maybe i will fly.. They do not address any issues, speak to valuation even if growth occurs but try to flavor it so sucker (IMO ) buyers have no comeback. Typical hype from the likely suspects trying to get more subscribers. Facts here are so simple. This and a few other stocks are hyped momentum plays with absolutely no relationship to value, earnings or much of anything other than projections based on nothing more than wishfull thinking. IMO i think smart money is selling and using every available media hype group they can in a desperate attemptto hold the stock price up. Its a losing cause, but will sucker in a few, no doubt.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • beststockstoownnow by beststockstoownnow Mar 21, 2014 6:19 PM Flag

    What happens if this all collapses? Think you will find service or a charge then? Other technologies are so widespread that even when companies falter, as many have in the past, service, parts and fuel remain available. Think that will be the case here if this ends up like Enron????

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Reply to

    True Cost of Ownership

    by temagami67 Mar 21, 2014 4:09 PM
    beststockstoownnow beststockstoownnow Mar 21, 2014 6:16 PM Flag

    Of course it is absurd, as I have stated many times. The cost to operate this vehicle is HIGH and does not appear to compete on that at all. Some here are so thick, that they will argue like, uh du lets see, I will go out and pay 100K for the car, and spend tens of thousands more than I should, but I will save on gas. So what if I save pennies and spend thousands, especially when I also bought the stock for probably 8 times its value using the same sort of logic. The manic crew, buy the bubble, buy the story, pay more for less. Makes sense to them. But just watch them cry fowl when/if the price drops back down, as I think it will, to under $100. It will be everyone elses fault except theirs! Some things never change. Also it is FAR from clear how long the batteries even last under varying conditions, how these cars hold up over time, service cost, resale value over time, where service will come from in the future, etc etc etc. Over priced, over hyped, all pointing to big drops. That seems to be reality folks.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Reply to

    228 is a great entry point

    by pannubracount Mar 21, 2014 6:02 PM
    beststockstoownnow beststockstoownnow Mar 21, 2014 6:06 PM Flag

    How many said 265 was a great entry point! I think a great entry point is under $60 where it is still over valued but with big upside. Here, not a chance. This is so over valued, it is a joke and is now going to come down. The only thing that will give respite to longs is the occasional blip up as shorts cover and take profits.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

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