i received the following message from I-Hub-
Apparently letting posters know where other posters might be is against the rules!!!
IH Admin [Edward] Member Level
Saturday, April 27, 2013 5:44:10 PM
Stop directing iHub members to other sites.
~ Blue ~ Member Level
Monday, April 22, 2013 11:46:28 AM
you know you are another idiot do not have any friggin talent. FNMA AND FNMAS ON THE SAME PAGE.. BASHING ONE WILL NOT HELP THE OTHER.. IT IS PREFERENCE..
Devil, i have not been there will try later.
Ski posted on Freddienfannie at google groups that you were looking to go to Raging Bull.
Alot of poster like you have migrated there. i am still getting used to it.
and still ranting at the Blue ster.
he sent me a private e-mail to that i was an idiot and to stop bashing .
Aint that the kettle calling the pot black - LOL
for information and Fannie and Freddie investors- try
"freddienfannie" at google groups- lot's of investors there.
Ski, started this after the "exchange" got him booted off i hub
Blue from I Hub told her- That clown is full of BS.
The actual news might be good but the malarky from Hilary and Blue is off the charts ridiculous.
Remember how they were posting 200 billion would be Paid to the GSE in lawsuits. What clowns
I hub - is undergoing a massive missinformation campaign by a and azul poster.
i have dubbed him Blueper.
Posts that disagree with his methods are being deleted. The moderators that stood up to him have been banned and the other moderators in Boston lock down- afraid to say anything. Gonna by like Chechnya pretty soon.
You may have notice the volume of posting has dropped considerably- Some posters have gone to Google
Groups freddienfannie other posters have disappeared entirely
Quote from the administrator below.
IH Admin [Dan] Member Level
Thursday, April 18, 2013 10:10:16 PM
You are precariously close to receiving posting restrictions on FNMAS due to TOU violations.
Please get back on topic about the company and the stock, only. Comments about the people who post on the board, deletions, etc., are off topic at minimum.
When/Why Messages Are Deleted
See: Settings/My Removed Posts
I am about to banned by Blue from I Hub -
Appears he reports to the administrator when you point out how illogical his arguments are.
Bad place to do your Due diligence when the message is being filtered and deleted.
Maybe Blue should go to Communist China.
new investor board for fannienfreddie on google groups.
others there camero, ski, 20 cent. taint , Joe.
Site still getting started.
I-Hub still deleting massive number of posts. Cannot trust the message there anymore,
Keep haranguing Blue - what a jerk.
you might think twice about Hillary posting the website.
On the pfd website she asks for the petition to be signed and her very next e-mail bashes the pfds.
Class act that one.
Thanks for the update.
I have been out of town- wondered what happened t ihub-
its a shame as i like the links and no spam
I just put the nutjobs on ignore.
I think it was that pumper from the fnma board blue- What a bozo.
it did appear that if the assistant moderators was full that he would be barred.
We could populate the ckj board with moderators and just ignore the common pumpers- just a thought let me know what y'all figure out.
10% that effectivly was 13% by some estimates buy forcing them to take a draw to pay the divi- effectivly compounding a portion of the divi penalty.
In addition they forced them to take draw more than necessary, by not allowing Dfd Tax asset, and increasing the period for reserves to cover
they were talking I hub common. pumpers and bashers.
Many have left the Yahoo boards due to spam, shorts, not even pumpers left here anymore.
no offense but i think you asked the wrong question.
if the TSY takes all profits under the banner of protecting taxpayers, then,.......
when the net investment is zero? is this obligation fulfilled?
semantics - yes -
the takings does take place once net investment is zero
this is good news!
Day traders don't understand but larger investors will know the value of this decision.
Their last hope is a lame complaint that judge Cote is being unfair to them.
Lots of luck with that.
Now they are really screwed if they cannot settle.
should divi start paying at 8% a premium to that.
pfd get paid first in case of a wind down.
in case of a re org- pfd mostly likely get redeemed at RV - Redemption Value.i might be in $25 worth of common but, fine with me.
in general the pfd are the safer bet
the risk reward depends on price and expected outcome.
the pfd will cap at $25 or $50 depending on the issue. currently about 7x on your money- not bad
the common are a bit risker and more volitile.
for fast money buy common on dips.
Long term go with pfd and move to common if you think common will get a better return .
say pfd go to 50% of Redemption and common not moved - you would probably be better making the switch too common. depends on what you think the commons will return in the next 2 years.
For now I sold my common last week and moved to pfd.
REDEMPTION VALUE- $25 and $50
The tax deduction against future losses when they make profits.
the FHA has prevented them from putting them on the books-
this increased the amount of money fannie and freddie had to borrow.
Fannie wants to put them on again per GAAP principles- DeMarco has refused in the past.
My guess is they will be allowed to put 3 years of tax valuations ( or the amount of tax they would have to pay if there is a profit)- but that is just my wild guess