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Herbalife Ltd. Message Board

billberggren 29 posts  |  Last Activity: 12 hours ago Member since: May 11, 1999
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  • I bought SWY March 28th, I sold April 1st. Should I not receive the shares of HAWKB since I owned the stock on the day of record April 3rd? Can brokers make mistakes? Should not April 1st be the ex-spin-off date?

  • This stock is a cash and dividend cow. Easily worth $1000 in the long run.

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    Sandell should take a hike losers.

    by billberggren Apr 8, 2014 2:58 PM
    billberggren billberggren Apr 11, 2014 12:59 PM Flag

    Yes, the stock has stalled the last 6 years with no revenue growth. However, I think you can make some changes at the top. however, it is better to keep the current management than to allow the private equity monsters to take it.

  • Reply to

    Sandell should take a hike losers.

    by billberggren Apr 8, 2014 2:58 PM
    billberggren billberggren Apr 11, 2014 12:57 PM Flag

    Dividend History:
    2013 1.24
    2012 1.10
    2011 1.00
    2010 .72
    2009 .64
    2008 .56
    2007 .56
    2006 .48

    Now take these dividends, say they do not even grow the dividend anymore. Say the company is run conservately pays down debt and just keeps up with inflation. Over the next 1000 years, the company will pay out $1240 in inflation adjusted dollars. Thus BOBE is worth with current management $1240. If the stock goes private equity becasue some frauds get on the board we lose the $1240.

  • Reply to

    Sandell should take a hike losers.

    by billberggren Apr 8, 2014 2:58 PM
    billberggren billberggren Apr 11, 2014 4:07 AM Flag

    made a typo. The present dividend is higher than most in the Sp500. The dividend still grows 10% a year. We need to get private equity away from this stock. They are financial terrorists and only care about buying and undervalued company on the cheap. The board was correct, a 95% vote like Crimea should be required to take a company private.

  • We should offer them $9.50 for all their shares. They want the small shareholder to sell to them without their permission, why not just give them $9.50 a share and tell them to go back to Texas?

  • billberggren by billberggren Apr 8, 2014 4:06 PM Flag

    A stock is not meant to be sold to private equity for pennies on the dollar. Poor individuals are suppose to buy a businesses via stocks they can pass on to their grandchildren. In the last decade or so, there has been an assult by private equity on the public sectors. IMHO, they do this because it is much more tax advantageous being a private equity firm. You can load a company up with debt issue a dividend, then use the debt as income in another private equity firm to avoid corporate income tax.

    Warren Buffet generally pays no dividend tax or capital gains tax. He can tap into the dividends that would be normally going to investors and take a train in China as a business deduction. Anyone associated with private equity should immediately be removed from the board. Stocks are not meant to unlock value, but to be value by issing dividends and stock growing dividends 10% a year meets that criteria. Please Sandell sell your shares and move on. Please BOBE end the buybacks for a while until the raiders are gone and bump the dividend to 7%. All you are doing is risking the firm by increasing their share percentage.

  • If you don't like the way BOBE is run, why don't you sell your shares and buy stock in companies you do think are run well. The bylaws should be changed requiring a 99% vote to take a company private.

  • Reply to

    Destroying value

    by golfer18us Mar 28, 2014 2:56 PM
    billberggren billberggren Apr 8, 2014 3:02 PM Flag

    this stock pays a 3.5% dividend and grows it 10% plus a year. I hope you go buy mnkd or fb or something. Why do all these private equity vultures always go to the most undervalued companies? To give this company away to private equity has got to be the dumbest thing to do.

  • What right do you have to talk to private equity. Private Equity is #$%$. This company pays a 3.5% dividend and grows their dividend 10% a year. I hope they all know each other and are friends. Private equity wants the company because it is so undervalued and well run. Tell your PE buddies to go buy FB or MNKD. Don't let these guys anywhere near the board unless they come back with 90% of the shares outstanding. You are welcome to buy them in the free market.

  • I am hoping for $140. This stock is massively undervalued. Once the vote fails we need to move to replace the CEO and board without severance. Maybe we can get them on food stamps and they will be collecting SSDI. But I find it funny that strangers can come in an expect to take the company away from us for such an embarrassing low price. At least they could do a tender offer. The 5-10% that would sell for less than $15 can go with Lone Star. The sad part is the 50% might go with Lone Star for the sole purpose of getting our shares at $9.50. A democracy scheme. The majority taking the value away from the minority. We need to require a 90% vote to take a company private because that is what the SEC requires you own to take a company private. Personally I boycott all private equity corporations, from Dell to Albertsons and soon to be Vons. In fact took a hammer to a working Dell monitor.

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    dllr is worth at least $140.

    by billberggren Apr 3, 2014 1:43 AM
    billberggren billberggren Apr 4, 2014 1:36 AM Flag

    Also some guy made a book on high frequency trading. The book was probably wrtten to get more tax out of us little guys. At most it cost you 0.01%. The real issue is private equity.

  • Reply to

    dllr is worth at least $140.

    by billberggren Apr 3, 2014 1:43 AM
    billberggren billberggren Apr 4, 2014 1:32 AM Flag

    Just look at Warren Buffett, he pays no dividend tax, no capital gains tax, and he uses his glorified mutual fund to fly around the county on the taxpayer dime. Furthermore he could take a salary. I get hit with a short-term capital gain. He is not a great investor he is a great rent seeker.

    Relating to dllr, why do they even consider the 30 day price, it should be the 3 year high. First off stocks are more volatile and manipulated than bitcoin. Dllr probably has been manipulated down for years. Those hoping for a good buy, probably just got handed the shaft. The majority taking the rights way from the minority.

    Anything less than $70 and I hope it goes to court.

  • billberggren by billberggren Apr 3, 2014 1:43 AM Flag

    Cash flow was $264 million last year. Free Cash Flow was $221 million. There is a non cash expense. There is 38 million shares outstanding, that puts the real earnings about $7. Put a 20 p/e on top of that and you get $140. DONT LET PRVATE EQUITY RUIN AMERICA. What right do a bunch of insiders have to sell the company to bunch on pencil pushers. Anything less that $140 deserves a lawsuit.

  • billberggren by billberggren Mar 28, 2014 1:29 PM Flag

    With all the stock repurchases they made, virtually none of the shares outstanding have disappeared. Where did they go? Stock options? Icahn is right these guys take the cake.

  • billberggren by billberggren Mar 27, 2014 9:07 PM Flag

    I think it was either Thursday, Friday, or Monday.

  • What right do they have to take the shares of the small shareholders that do not want to sell. CNBC is only good for interviews. $40 per share.

  • Why can't these small businesses just go to the bank or sba and get loans for 3 to 5%?

  • Reply to

    Administration will crush Safeway Buyout

    by willieboywashere Mar 7, 2014 5:44 PM
    billberggren billberggren Mar 8, 2014 5:14 AM Flag

    The administration is for private equity fraud. There is no way a moral person would allow the large shareholder to rape and steal from the small shareholder. 1/2 the supermarkets in southern cal 100 years of building them by shareholders, given away.

  • billberggren billberggren Mar 7, 2014 1:24 PM Flag

    swy presently pays a 2% dividend. Furthermore it is a asset to the public. It would continue to grow and raise dividends. Management sold a company that is not theirs to their buddies. One a company is public is should remain public for life. A markup is not 20% it is 200%.

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