Actually they may have done a good thing. While PD is going up. The real question is what will the offer be. The co has value even though the shorts won't admit it on this dive on panic sales. It is going to get interesting as the days move forward AND WHO KNOWS COULD BE A MONSTER SHORT SQUEEZE in the works if it works out. We'll see
They did their backfilling for sure and took out all they could. The long term investors are not going anywhere and the flippers and shorts do what the do. IMO one has just about 90 days to buy the cheap before the next Q. This is where the rubber meets the road for sure. My prediction is short term 3.25 by April 15th. It is in the cards.
A good many investors are indeed waiting for the smoke to clear from GS as per article and would like to be assured that the controlling shorts do not attempt a big hit. With 90 million already short perhaps it is very close to the actual bottm now. It also appears that this is a long term investment as per article 1/2 years out. For the trader and flipper that is not in their MO so they will continue to attack on a daily basis so they can flip and trade. For every bad blog and for all the ones that would like to keep this under control there are also many who don't agree and have shown the worth of holding, buying and going long term. So if common sence plays and the facts have yet to be determined in total the speculations will be varried. Is the glass half empty or half full I don't know as long as there is water in the glass is a good thing.
It does't "have to" fill the gap. I don't see a lot of downside. There was nothing in the least that the big investors didn't knw before the Q. There were no big surprises there. Anyone that has been reading all the prs would know what the q was going to like. The one time charges are done. No this was not the q for advancement on the bottom line. The next q is where it falls in place. What was taken out in the one time charges will be added to the next q as revenue plus what ever new business they do. I actually believe that there will be positive moves in the months ahead and this little shake fake is all but over. JMO
That "may" be true but the "fact" is they screwed the investors to do that. They completely wiped them out of all their stock with the r/s and new symbol. If they did it then they will do it again in the future. I don't believe or trust them as I have lost enough. GLTY
I don't like bashing either by any means, but one has to admit that this hasn't gone over .50 since dec 18 2012. That is a very, very long time to trade between .23 and .29 for years. We'll I don't get it either with all the great news on a stock that should have moved many times in those past years. Something do'es not look right with the trading of millions and millions in that time period. If it is not being controlled and manipulated I don't know what to add to that fact. This long haul is indeed a long haul for real. I've been holding for a few years and hope that another 2/3 years is NOT in the cards. I believed that the last six months would have made a substancial move given the facts and the good reported news. Sure makes you go hmmmmmmm
From the short street blogger gang to the house shorts you are correct they do not want this to go up. We all know the why. You would believe that this would be tired but with tons of cash at stake they can sit and pound it all day. that is what they et paid to do. There are rows and rows of these guys at their desk pounding out what ever on whatever their boss tells them. Like this is some kind of hidden story. It was once long ago - hidden - What ever - old BS
I am also very, very disapointed in these manipulated moves. The shorts have this one on a cycle for sure. From the past 12 months it is evident. Just glad I don't hold a ton and a small amount. Just enough not to get hurt and just enough to hold forever. It just might take forever to see a buck, but I will stickit out. Primiarly just because I do believe that the co is undervalued and over manipulated and I anticipate at some point the eps will catch up to fair value.
Yeah you may be right but I don't think they will do that. The ole J at GS has rubbed his hands together hard enough. Maybe afraid the curles down the side of his head will get clipped off under his black hate
I don't know if BAC will go against GS, they could we'll see. In the meantime the GS is working for them as they are walking it down. Extremely pathetic to watch this manipulation of a co and the destruction of the adverage investor in this co all with out a blink. Well we all know and have known that the small invesotrs are pawns anyways always at the mercy of the manipulators. Pretty Jacked up watching this and knowing what is going on and helpless. By no means what so ever is it the co it is the people in charge of the cash pile who don't like the co for one reason or the other. That is what I am reading in the tea leaves.
There is some reality to that I agree. It is not what soe want to hear but you may have something in reality. It appears they are going to walk it down and try and get as much as they can from it. They will us the GS article to their advantage unless something changes from the co in the meantime. The co has other things that may co as a surprise in the meantime as well. Everyone is so consentrated on this they are not paying attention to the whole mankind picture. Although this is a good part of the co it is not the whole of it either.
Yes I agee this co is a death trap. Lost it all - tax write off - prmoting conman stock. Changed symbols to fool he next group on BS
I totally agrre about the manipulation which is evident. As for holding free shares and not worring that is great for some but many have bought much higher and are not in that position or very happy about this in the least. Many can not adverage down, many have got taken out on margin calls and many have got taken out by the stop loss orders they put on as well. The manipualated blitz from all sources under the control of the shorts is well known to the fact they control the mkt. It is a great world when you can get free shares to short and don't have to worry about covering because people like GS cover the margins for you. The shorts just pay them a fee so they don't have to worry about covering. They only time the shorts are forced to cover is when the the people doing business with the shorts call them in and make them cover. Most won't do that because they want the shorts business. Thess are facts as known. Many cos put out great news but the stock goes down. Why, because it is being maanipulated and controlled. There is nothing new in this. It is what it is.
The shorts don't want to talk about anything else and so it is not etting talked about. They control who says what and when. We all know the why. They will beat this up untill the cows come home so they can get mostly covered. When they do they will let the dogs out to say quite the opposite of what is being said today. They want and need panic selling for real, they need to cover. They got affraid when it went into the 7s again. The hit squad was sent out to do their bidding. Not much more to it on the manipulation side. I also believe that the big investors are affraid of the shorts as well. The shorts cash out weighs them big time. They made trillions in the last 15 years. many are so manipulated from so many angles they don't even realize what is real and what isn't. They have no clue how corroupt this mkt really is. It is what it is for real.
I agree with this thread on most all points.The referance to problematic goes a couple of ways. One is that there has been positive reports by quite a few responsible people whom have gave in deepth reports. The only "real" conclusion to the problematic is the huge short and the huge amount of cash at risk for the shorts. They have trillions of dollars and control more than one would like to believe. They can put out an article at any time at any moment to sway and move in the mkt on "any" co they choose depending on the position they have in it. Don't think for a minute they don't control what you hear, read and see. Best advice given to me 50 years ago - don't believe anything you hear and only believe half of what you see
Also quite odd as the stock was reboundin in the mid 7s this came ""out of the blue"" Kind of makes you go hmmmm
I agree 100%. GS is helping these shorts in a big way. There is so much money at stake on this huge short it doesn't tak a movie producer to come up with a plot that is more real than some believe. Even Cramer isn't going for this by GS - That is huge - He worked for them and he should know and believes it is unwaranter as well. If it barks like a dog it probably is a dog
Everyone one and thier brother knows that the street is a short headed by one of the biggest shorts ever when he worked for Saks. Back door cash in duffel bags being tossed around like trash cans. Multi trillion dollar shorts own this mkt now and forever. It is what it is.