Ethanol Declines Versus Gasoline on Outlook for Ample Feedstock
By Mario Parker - Sep 6, 2013 10:09 AM MT .
Ethanol declined against gasoline on speculation that this fall’s corn harvest will bring ample supply of the biofuel feedstock.
The spread, or price difference, expanded 3.35 cents to 98.45 cents a gallon as Bloomberg survey of analysts before the U.S. Agriculture Department updates its production forecast Sept. 12 that the harvest may be a record 13.64 billion bushels, 27 percent more than a year earlier. One bushel of the grain makes at least 2.75 gallons of ethanol.
“While yields are down a bit it’s still a huge crop,” said Justin Dirico, manager of the biofuels desk at Eagle Energy Brokers LLC in New York. “That’s why the bulls haven’t really come out. It’s wait and see.”
Denatured ethanol for October delivery fell 0.2 cent to $1.883 a gallon on the Chicago Board of Trade. Futures have dropped 14 percent this year.
Gasoline for October delivery gained 3.15 cents, or 1.1 percent, to $2.8675 a gallon on the New York Mercantile Exchange. The contract covers reformulated gasoline, made to be blended with ethanol before delivery to filling stations.
Corn for December delivery climbed 2.25 cents, or 0.5 percent, to $4.6325 a bushel in Chicago. September corn declined 3 cents to $4.865.
Refiners are required to use 13.8 billion gallons of ethanol this year. Each batch of ethanol is given a Renewable Identification Number, or RIN, to help the government track compliance. RINs can be traded among companies.
Corn-based ethanol RINs were unchanged at 69 cents, data compiled by Bloomberg show. Advanced RINs, which cover biodiesel and Brazilian sugarcane-based ethanol, held at 74 cents.
Illinois Governor Supports More Ethanol
September 5, 2013 by Cindy Zimmerman
During a stop at the Farm Progress Show in Decatur, Illinois last week, Governor Pat Quinn was asked about his support of ethanol and the Renewable Fuel Standard.
“I drive a car that believes in renewable fuels and I think it’s important for the governor to get the word out that we have to not be dependent on foreign potentates for our oil,” Quinn told reporters. “We have lots of opportunity in our own backyard to grow our own fuel.”
The governor would like to see more E15 fueling cars on the road. “We’d like to move it up to E15, that will help our Illinois farmers and help reduce our dependence on foreign oil,” said Quinn.
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White House chief of staff confident of vote on Syria strikes
Jeremy Herb - 09/08/13 10:53 AM ET
White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough said President Obama will win the vote to authorize military strikes in Syria, despite mounting congressional opposition.
“This resolution is going to pass after we work this,” McDonough said on ABC’s “This Week.”
The White House chief of staff appeared on all five Sunday shows as the Obama administration ramps up its media blitz to try to sway public opinion on Syria. McDonough’s Sunday show sweep comes before the president will conduct a round of interviews with the television networks on Monday and give a primetime White House address on Tuesday.
The public pitch from Obama is part of the administration’s plans to convince Congress that strikes are a necessary response after Syrian President Bashar Assad’s regime allegedly used chemical weapons last month.
“No” votes on a strike have piled up this past week after Obama said he would seek congressional authorization before taking military action, particularly among Republicans.
McDonough acknowledged the votes were not there yet but said on “Fox News Sunday” that it was “too early to come to any conclusion.”
McDonough made his pitch on Sunday to Congress and the public that strikes are necessary for U.S. national security interests and would remain limited in scope. He argued across the five shows he appeared on that the White House was making progress because the intelligence that Assad’s regime is responsible for the attack is not in doubt.
“Members have been in their districts and in their states, we've been talking to many of them, dozens of them,” he said on “This Week.” “And when they see this intelligence, they do not rebut it. So the bottom line is, they have to answer the question: Should there be consequences?”
McDonough declined to answer some of the more difficult questions that Obama has not addressed, such as what the president would do if Congre
Keystone pipeline foe Steyer launches $1 million ad push
Ben Geman - 09/08/13 09:31 AM ET
Billionaire climate change activist Tom Steyer is launching a four-part, $1 million ad buy that attacks the proposed Keystone XL oil sands pipeline.
The former hedge fund chief’s first ad, slated to run during today’s political talk shows, alleges Keystone wouldn’t help the U.S. because the oil would be “refined and loaded on ships to be sold overseas to countries like China.”
“Foreign countries will get more access to more oil to make more products to sell back to us, undercutting our economy and our workers,” the ad states.
The Obama administration is weighing whether to grant a cross-border permit for TransCanada Corp.’s pipeline, which would bring oil from Canadian oil sands projects to Gulf Coast refiners.
Keystone pipeline supporters have pushed back against activists’ allegations that Keystone would largely be an export pipeline, either for crude it carries or refined products made with it.
They also say that Keystone would benefit the economy even if some products refined with the oil it carries are exported.
The State Department’s March draft analysis of the pipeline noted that U.S. exports of refined products are increasing as refiners “respond to lower domestic gasoline demand and continued higher demand and prices in overseas markets.”
But it pointed out that almost half the products refined in the Gulf Coast serve the domestic market.
The draft analysis also found that refined product export trends are “unlikely to be significantly impacted” by Keystone.
“It appears that Steyer is now ready to concede that oil will not simply pass through the Keystone XL pipeline to be exported and we welcome that development. If he reads the rest of the [supplemental draft environmental impact statement] he will see that the State Department also finds that refined products used in the US also will not be exported,” said Matt Dempsey, a spokesman for Oil Sands Fact
U.S. official says CIA has authenticated at least 13 videos showing victims of Syrian gas attack
By David Nakamura, Published: September 7
U.S. intelligence officials have authenticated at least 13 videos of the aftermath of an alleged Syrian gas attack showing men and children convulsing and struggling to breathe, a government official said Saturday.
The graphic videos, obtained by The Washington Post, have been made public previously on YouTube and other Internet sites. They are among as many as 100 public videos that purport to document victims of the Aug. 21 attack near Damascus.
The Central Intelligence Agency has confirmed these 13 videos as authentic, said the government official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the materials.
At the request of Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, the images were shown to senators on Thursday during a classified briefing that was part of congressional deliberations over whether to authorize President Obama to pursue limited military strikes against Syrian government targets.
A growing number of lawmakers on both sides of the aisle are objecting to such strikes, but administration officials and their congressional allies believe that the horrific scenes depicted in the videos could help sway public opinion. The administration has said at least 1,429 people, including 426 children, were killed in the alleged chemical attack.
The videos, shot in several different locations, show shirtless men squirming and convulsing on the floor, as well as young boys and girls having difficulty breathing. In some cases, medics have placed oxygen masks over their mouths. Some show doctors looking into the glazed eyes of the victims, and in at least one case a man appears to be foaming at the mouth.
The CIA’s authentication of the 13 videos was first reported by CNN.
After the private Senate meeting Thursday, Feinstein told reporters:
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California Moves Forward on Energy Storage
By RP Siegel | September 6th, 2013
The California Public Utilities Commission issued a proposed decision this week that will guide power companies towards an increased utilization of energy storage. The proposed framework lays out both a timeline and a set of goals that will, according to Energy Storage North America (ESNA), “jump start the market for energy storage solutions” in this country.
“This is the moment we’ve all been waiting for,” said Janice Lin, Managing Partner of Strategen Consulting and Chair of ESNA’s upcoming conference. (See Lin’s editorial in Triple Pundit here.)
The announcement comes just in time for the Energy Storage North America (ESNA) Conference and Expo 2013, at which CPUC Commissioner Carla Peterman, who authored the proposed decision, will be the keynote speaker. This will be the first conference in North America specifically focused on energy storage.
•The proposed framework outlines specific, year-by-year energy storage procurement targets for Southern California Edison, San Diego Gas & Electric, and Pacific Gas and Electric. This is expected to generate some 1.325 gigawatts of energy storage capacity by 2020.
•The proposed targets are designed to increase between 30% and 55% every two years, creating a growing demand for storage.
•Specific functions are not mandated. Utilities are free to employ energy storage for anything from capacity, ancillary services, and peak shaving, which in turn will provide real-world data on performance benefits.
•Utilities will be required to procure at least 50% of the storage capacity from independent developers across all segments of the grid via existing procurement processes or “all-source” solicitations starting in 2014. This will help ensure diversity of supply and technology.
•The first solicitation for new energy storage capacity will be required to occur no later than December 1, 2014
The advantages of incorporating energy storage in
Obama, Biden meet with GOP senators on Syria
Kyle Balluck - 09/08/13 07:34 PM ET
President Obama late Sunday joined Vice President Joe Biden and a group of Republican senators at the Naval Observatory in Washington, D.C., according to a White House pool report.
"This evening, the president dropped by the dinner that the Vice President hosted for republican senators," the White House said in a statement.
Biden and his wife, Dr. Jill Biden, were scheduled to host the senators for dinner as part of the White House's effort to win support for military action in Syria.
The president spent approximately an hour and 20 minutes with Biden and the senators.
The White House said Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Susan Collins (R-Maine), Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.), Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) and Deb Fischer (R-Neb.) attended the dinner.
The Hill's latest whip list counts nine Senate Republicans as "yes/leaning yes" while 14 GOP senators are listed as "no/leaning no."
Ayotte, Chambliss, Corker and Graham are listed as "yes/leaning yes." Collins and Fischer are among 23 Senate Republicans listed as "undecided."
Earlier Sunday, White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough said lawmakers would vote to authorize military strikes, despite mounting congressional opposition.
McDonough brushed aside the rising number of voices in Congress against military action, saying it was still “too early” to reach conclusions.
“This resolution is going to pass after we work this,” McDonough said on ABC’s “This Week.”
Obama will also conduct interviews with six television networks ahead of a primetime speech on Syria Tuesday night in an effort to win over lawmakers and the public.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) filed the use-of-force resolution on the Senate floor Friday, setting up a Wednesday vote to end debate and move to final passage. The critical cloture vote will happen on the 12-year anniversary of the 9/11 attacks on New York and the Pentagon and
Obama and Biden hold last minute summit in desperate bid to secure backing for Syria strike from lawmakers
US Secretary of State said 'no decision has been made'
Comments come as President Obama prepares to show politicians disturbing footage to muster support for air strike
Reports suggest House of Representatives and Senate are 'deeply divided' over issue
By Tamara Cohen, Political Correspondent and James Nye
PUBLISHED: 02:48 GMT, 9 September 2013 | UPDATED: 03:25 GMT, 9 September 2013
President Obama and Joe Biden held a last minute summit with senior Republican senators on Sunday night as they try to shore up rapidly diminishing support for military action in Syria.
Hosting a meal at the vice-president's home at the Naval Observatory in Washington, the president is slated to go to Capitol Hill in two days to make his case for limited missile strikes to Senate Democrats.
However, while the Senate Foreign Relations Committee passed an endorsement of the president's proposal last, the house and senate vote still faces an uncertain future and possible defeat.
Indeed, the president's journey to Congress on Tuesday to attempt to convince his own party to back his proposal will come on the same day his broadcast to the nation will air at 9 p.m. ET.
This comes as the White House asserted on Sunday that a "common-sense test" dictates the Syrian government is responsible for a chemical weapons attack that President Barack Obama says demands a U.S. military response.
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But Obama's top aide says the administration lacks "irrefutable, beyond-a-reasonable-doubt evidence" that skeptical Americans, including lawmakers who will start voting on military action this week, are
Delay for Syria Debate Lets Pentagon Spot Missile Targets
By Tony Capaccio & Gopal Ratnam - Sep 5, 2013 10:47 PM MT
A delay to let Congress debate authorization for U.S. military strikes sets up a cat-and-mouse game in Syria, giving Bashar al-Assad time to seek hiding places for troops and equipment as the Pentagon steps up surveillance to find targets for Tomahawk cruise missiles.
The Syrian president’s regime is already “moving resources around” and placing prisoners or other civilians in places it thinks the U.S. may attack, Army General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told lawmakers at a U.S. House hearing on Sept. 4.
The delay, though, isn’t just to Assad’s advantage, Dempsey said.
“Time works both ways,” he told a Sept. 3 Senate hearing. “We have some pretty significant intelligence capabilities and we continue to refine our targets.”
President Barack Obama announced Aug. 31 that he would ask Congress to support his decision to launch a military strike, “limited in duration and scope,” in response to an Aug. 21 chemical weapons attack near Damascus. At the time, Obama said Dempsey told him “that our capacity to execute this mission is not time-sensitive -- it will be effective tomorrow, or next week, or one month from now.”
The Senate Foreign Relations Committee, controlled by Democrats, approved a resolution Sept. 4 authorizing military action. More congressional hearings are scheduled for next week. Leaders in the Senate and House haven’t set a schedule for voting on Obama’s authorization request.
Karl Mueller, an air-power analyst with the Rand Corp., a U.S. sponsored research organization, said Dempsey’s correct to suggest that, by shifting men and materiel, Assad may expose them to U.S. surveillance.
“Moving things around in the process of hiding them can make them more visible” to intelligence agencies, Mueller said in an e-mail. “So the idea that delay helps us make an attack t
Investors in Germany's Utilities Should Vote With Their Feet
Elections Won't Clear Clouds Hanging Over E.ON, RWE.
By ANNE SEITH
September 8, 2013, 5:02 p.m. ET
Hope is the last thing to die.
German utilities RWE RWE.XE +6.42% and E.ON EOAN.XE +4.91% spent years thinking Europe's electricity markets would open up completely and nuclear power would remain viable. Then German politics, in the form of big subsidies for renewable power and a post-Fukushima nuclear shutdown timetable, intervened. Now, with German elections due this month, the two are pushing for a rethink, arguing current policies risk power shortages.
They may be right. But that doesn't mean they will win. On the surface, the utilities seem to be knocking on an open door, with Germany's two big parties proposing major overhauls.
Large subsidies have fueled a tenfold increase in renewable capacity in Germany since 1998. The extra supply, with no fuel cost, crushed electricity prices, squeezing margins on traditional power plants. If the latter close, that raises the potential for blackouts, as renewable power depends on the weather.
Hence, the industry is pushing the idea of a capacity market: essentially, paying power plants simply for existing. Regional governments in Bayern and Baden-Wuerttemberg, threatened more than others by possible power shortages, support such programs. But a big part of the conservative camp, which polls suggest will lead the next government, questions further market interventions. So, investors shouldn't expect anything on that front soon.
Changes in the Renewables Energy Act look closer, with conservative Chancellor Angela Merkel loudly promising overhauls. The liberals, her current and preferred future coalition partner, plead for a more market-driven approach in the energy sector. Even the Socialists have spoken out against excessive subsidies for renewables.
But the size of any cuts still is to be discussed. Moreover, politicians are eager to keep a li
U.S. gasoline rises to $3.58 a gallon in Lundberg Survey
September 9, 2013 at 6:47 am by Bloomberg
The average price for regular gasoline at U.S. pumps rose 2.61 cents in the past two weeks to $3.5847 a gallon, according to Lundberg Survey Inc.
The survey covers the period ended Sept. 6 and is based on information obtained from about 2,500 filling stations by the Camarillo, California-based company.
The average, which reached a year-to-date peak of $3.795 in the period ended Feb. 22, is about 25 cents below the year-earlier price of $3.8376 a gallon.
“The issue of U.S. monetary policy combined with Syria jitters added strength to prices,” Trilby Lundberg, president of Lundberg Survey, said in a telephone interview. “Gasoline prices will not necessarily continue rising from here. It will depend mostly on what crude-oil prices do.”
The highest price for gasoline in the lower 48 U.S. states among the markets surveyed was in Chicago, where the average price was $3.92 a gallon, Lundberg said.
The lowest price was in Tucson, Arizona, where customers paid an average of $3.27 a gallon. Regular gasoline averaged $3.83 a gallon on Long Island, New York, and $3.85 in Los Angeles.
Gasoline futures on the New York Mercantile Exchange fell 15.35 cents, or 5.1 percent, to $2.8537 a gallon in the two weeks to Sept. 6.
U.S. gasoline stockpiles slid 1.83 million barrels in the week ended Aug. 30 to 216 million, according to data from the Energy Information Administration, the statistical arm of the Energy Department.
The front-month West Texas Intermediate crude contract settled at $110.53 a barrel on the Nymex on Sept. 6, the highest price since May 2011. The contract rose $4.11, or 3.9 percent, in two weeks.
Crude inventories slipped 1.84 million barrels in the week ended Aug. 30 to 360.2 million. Stockpiles at Cushing, Oklahoma, the delivery point for WTI, fell 1.83 million barrels to 34.8 million, the lowest level since February 2012.
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Report: Bloomberg, Steyer to launch big climate push
Ben Geman - 09/09/13 07:45 AM ET
Outgoing New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg will launch a “major bipartisan initiative on climate change” in October with billionaire climate activist Tom Steyer and George W. Bush-era Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, according to a published report.
The plan is mentioned in a new profile of Steyer and his work against the proposed Keystone XL oil sands pipeline in The New Yorker.
Bloomberg has made climate a priority with efforts including a major grant to the Sierra Club’s anti-coal plant work and plans to strengthen New York City’s defenses against powerful storms.
The scope and focus of the new initiative isn’t immediately clear. Aides to Steyer and Bloomberg could not be reached early Monday.
Another tidbit from The New Yorker story: It notes that two advisers of the new bipartisan climate effort – Clinton-era Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin and Reagan-era Secretary of State George Shultz – don’t see eye to eye with Steyer on Keystone.
From the story:
Some of Steyer’s allies on the climate issue also remain unconvinced that Keystone is the right battle. Rubin, who will be an adviser to the climate initiative being launched by Steyer, Paulson, and Bloomberg, says he doesn’t oppose the pipeline, and Shultz, another adviser to the new effort, favors approving Keystone. “This is oil that’s going to be produced whether or not there’s a Keystone pipeline,” Shultz said. “Get over it!”
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US Navy Triples Funding For Clean Energy In Hawaii
The US Navy has just pumped $30 million into the Energy Excelerator, a funding agency for renewable energy start-ups in Hawaii. That triples the agency’s operating funding over the past three years, and it gives the ol’ Bronx cheer to certain legislators in Congress who have tried to cut funding for the Navy’s ambitious alternative fuel initiatives. Even at the relatively modest initial funding level, the program has already raised follow-on investments from the private sector totaling more than $38 million.
The Energy Excelerator, which also receives funding from the Department of Energy and other partners, has 17 success stories under its belt, and with this new round of funding the ripple effect could be huge. In addition to potential application elsewhere in the US, companies that get under way with help from the Energy Excelerator have the whole Asia Pacific island nation market at their feet.
Hawaii, The US Navy And Clean Energy
Hawaii has a twofold, urgent motive for weaning itself from fossil fuel dependency: extremely high prices (quadruple the national average) and long supply lines. Both are intertwined with the state’s importance to the US Navy, most famously in the form of Pearl Harbor, which also explains why the Department of Defense has been adopting renewable energy and energy efficiency projects in Hawaii hand over fist.
US Navy invests $30 more in Hawaii clean energy startups.
USS Carl Vinson (cropped) courtesy of US Navy.
Aside from major solar installations, which have become ubiquitous at DoD facilities throughout the US, the DoD’s energy and conservation projects in Hawaii include a first-of-its-kind military collaboration between the Army and GM on a fuel cell vehicle fleet (which is part of a larger fuel cell infrastructure project), a full scale rainwater harvesting system at an Army barracks, an experimental renewable energy microgrid system, and a grid-connected wave
Syria 'Welcomes' Russian Proposal
By Dow Jones Business News, September 09, 2013, 07:15:00 AM EDT
Russia backed a demand by U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry that Syria put its chemical weapons under international control and then destroy them-- a proposal that, according to Russian media reports, Syria said it welcomed, without saying whether it would comply.
Mr. Kerry said Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's government could prevent U.S. military action in response to what the U.S. said was a chemical-weapons attack on Aug. 21 by handing over its chemical weapons to the international community. Syria has denied using chemical weapons and blamed Syrian rebels for the attacks.
Russian President Vladimir Putin echoed that narrative on Friday, saying the attack was a provocation by the opposition to win international military aid.
On Monday, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov of Russia, one of the strongest supporters of the Assad regime, urged Syria to comply with Mr. Kerry's call.
"We are calling on the Syrian leadership not just to agree to put chemical-weapons stores under international control, but also to their subsequent destruction, as well as fully fledged accession to the Chemical Weapons Convention," Mr. Lavrov said.
Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Moallem didn't provide any specifics, other than to say that Syria welcomed the Russian proposal.
"The Syrian Arab Republic welcomes the Russian initiative, motivated by the concerns of the Russian leadership for the lives of our citizens and the security of our country," Mr. Moallem told reporters in Moscow, according to Russia's Interfax news agency.
He said Syria's position on the proposal was motivated "out of our faith in the wisdom of the Russian leadership, which is striving to prevent American aggression against our people."
Mr. Moallem didn't provide any further details of how soon Syria might agree to the Russian proposal or whether Damascus supported both turning over its chemica
Nuke chief: Regulators moving ‘promptly’ to restart Yucca review
Ben Geman - 09/09/13 11:09 AM ET
The federal government’s top nuclear safety official will tell lawmakers Tuesday that regulators are moving “promptly” to comply with an August court ruling that revived the proposed Yucca Mountain nuclear waste dump.
Nuclear Regulatory Commission Chairwoman (NRC) Allison Macfarlane, in testimony to a House committee, walks lawmakers through the NRC’s steps to revive its licensing review of Yucca, the long-planned Nevada waste repository that President Obama has tried to kill.
But Macfarlane, in her statement to a House Energy and Commerce Committee panel that’s holding a hearing Tuesday on Yucca Mountain, puts the burden on Congress and the White House to ensure the review can be completed.
Her testimony reminds the committee that the NRC doesn’t have enough cash to complete the review of the Energy Department’s (DOE) Yucca Mountain license application, and that no additional funds are in the current fiscal year budget.
“The matter of whether or not funds are appropriated for the fiscal year 2014 is before Congress and the fiscal year 2015 budget development process is well underway. As the court noted in its decision, the underlying policy debate related to the matter of future funding for the NRC license review of [the Energy Department’s] Yucca Mountain license application is for Congress and the President to address,” her testimony states.
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Labor presses for ObamaCare fix
Kevin Bogardus - 09/09/13 06:49 AM ET
LOS ANGELES — Union officials are pushing to raise the volume of their ObamaCare angst at the AFL-CIO convention.
The labor federation has been having internal deliberations in Los Angeles on how to best draft a resolution addressing unions’ concerns over President Obama’s signature legislative accomplishment. Some senior union officials want to shed more light on the issue as labor presses the White House to fix the law.
“We think we ought to have the conversation about ObamaCare here. If not here, where? If not now, when?” Terry O’Sullivan, president of the Laborers’ International Union of North America (LIUNA), told The Hill.
AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka told reporters on Sunday that he expected the labor federation would consider a healthcare resolution.
“I think we will probably talk about healthcare at this convention, yeah. I think it will talk about all facets and our concerns. I think it will,” Trumka said.
Smaller AFL-CIO affiliates have passed resolutions that have spoken out against the law. Last month, the Nevada AFL-CIO passed a resolution urging Congress and the Obama administration to fix ObamaCare.
Labor’s biggest concern with the healthcare reform law is its impact on union members’ health plans, known as multi-employer or Taft-Hartley plans. Unions want these plans to be considered as qualified health plans and, thus, eligible for tax subsidies. But under the administration’s interpretation, the plans are not eligible for those subsidies.
That could hurt the multi-employer plans, as it may lead employers to drop those plans and force workers onto the new insurance exchanges, created by ObamaCare, with open enrollment beginning on Oct. 1.
“We need to talk about its potentially devastating effect on multi-employer health and welfare plans. We ought to have that debate,” said O’Sullivan with LIUNA.
Labor has grown more frustrated as other interests have lobbie