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bouttuimeuwokup 35 posts  |  Last Activity: Nov 22, 2013 11:23 AM Member since: Oct 11, 2006
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  • Reply to

    It's good to be CORECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by bouttuimeuwokup Nov 22, 2013 11:22 AM
    bouttuimeuwokup bouttuimeuwokup Nov 22, 2013 11:23 AM Flag

    CORRECT I can't spell but I can see where this is going!

  • bouttuimeuwokup by bouttuimeuwokup Nov 22, 2013 11:22 AM Flag

    I said a couple of weeks ago that it would trigger the index funds to begin buying as they rebalanced and would set the bottom at $12.00! You are beginning ti see this as we are now crossing the 100 million mark.

    Great job on the secondary let's get to $15 in the very near term!

  • Scott you are still missing the point don't look at the PE the earnings are coming. Look at the multiple of BOOK VALUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    When FNHC trades at the median range of their peers in Florida than we will be a $20.00 stock.

  • bouttuimeuwokup bouttuimeuwokup Nov 5, 2013 8:06 AM Flag

    Scott you are still missing the point don't look at the PE the earnings are coming. Look at the multiple of BOOK VALUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    FNHC has the lowest multiple of book of any of the stocks you mentioned with the earnings growth on the fast track. When this trades in the mid range it will be a $20.00 stock in 2014!!!

    I love this stock!

  • bouttuimeuwokup bouttuimeuwokup Nov 4, 2013 8:49 AM Flag

    Still think it won't hit 12 and that the index funds won't be buying when it comes time to re-weight at the end of the year?

    If you do you will not only be mistaken but lose out on a nice little pop that firms up the bottom at this number!

    I would also like to say that at the rate that FNHC is putting on business they are off to the races as teach month earns another 1/12th of this amazing production! I'm calling 15 by year-end and 18 by June 2014.

  • bouttuimeuwokup by bouttuimeuwokup May 4, 2012 2:24 AM Flag

    I agree that the business that they put on is going to earn big top and bottom line this quarter and all the way till July. I'm going to continue to add until earnings I expect a big pop.

  • bouttuimeuwokup by bouttuimeuwokup Nov 22, 2010 6:01 PM Flag

    How much money has this group lost in the last 2 years? 20 Million?

    When will this board make a change!

    They are not performing with the best interest on the shareholders in my oppinion!

  • bouttuimeuwokup by bouttuimeuwokup Nov 10, 2010 12:25 PM Flag

    HCII is making money and growing matbe board should look at HCII for an example of how to run a company!

  • bouttuimeuwokup by bouttuimeuwokup Nov 10, 2010 12:22 PM Flag

    Shame on you guys for not taking this deal. Your now lower than you were and they are almost double.

    21st Century Holding Company (Nasdaq: TCHC) today announced that its Board of Directors, after careful consultation with its financial advisors and legal counsel, has unanimously determined that the unsolicited proposal by Homeowners Choice, Inc. (Nasdaq: HCII) to acquire all outstanding shares of 21st Century common stock for approximately $5.30 per share in cash and stock is wholly inadequate and not in the best interest of the company's shareholders.

    "We believe the proposal substantially undervalues the assets and earnings potential of 21st Century," said Bruce Simberg, Chairman of the Board of Directors. "The proposal does not take into account the premium growth initiatives that the company has already started to implement, including our recently announced premium rate increases, our continued multi-state diversification into additional lines of insurance, and our improved investment portfolio management, which we expect will result in sustainable future profits.

  • bouttuimeuwokup by bouttuimeuwokup Jun 5, 2009 5:43 PM Flag

    Sawgrass Ford in Sunrise Florida is a ripp off. The service department is terrible and if the rest of the Ford dealers are this bad they will soon be going out off business too!

  • Reply to

    Break up (value)

    by grokkalot Mar 6, 2009 4:52 PM
    bouttuimeuwokup bouttuimeuwokup Apr 17, 2009 6:39 AM Flag

    Now were starting to make some sense.

  • bouttuimeuwokup by bouttuimeuwokup Mar 6, 2009 6:23 AM Flag

    The dividend doesn't mean anything if you lose 80% of your principal in the process. A share buyback would have been preferable during the past year because the book value per share would have risen or stayed flat (due to losses) essentially putting a floor on the stock price. The market has been pricing in a reduction of the dividend because they didn't believe it was sustainable after your Q3 results. The stock was punished today because the market wasn't anticipating a Q4 ($0.25) loss due to operations. Excluding Investment losses, you would have made $0.13 in Q3. All Management needed to produce was a break-even Q4 before investment losses to show good base before the additional volume came on in Q1. What shareholders got was the appearance of a Management Team and BOD that doesn't know what they are doing. Before reading that transcript I was willing to let you operate the business. Now, I want immediate liquidation or sale. It's probably the best chance for shareholders to regain lost principal in a reasonable time frame. You have a fiduciary responsibility to look at all options to maximize shareholder value including a sale or liquidation of the company, unless you want to give earnings guidance for FY09.

  • bouttuimeuwokup by bouttuimeuwokup Mar 6, 2009 6:21 AM Flag

    The dividend doesn't mean anything if you lose 80% of your principal in the process. A share buyback would have been preferable during the past year because the book value per share would have risen or stayed flat (due to losses) essentially putting a floor on the stock price. The market has been pricing in a reduction of the dividend because they didn't believe it was sustainable after your Q3 results. The stock was punished today because the market wasn't anticipating a Q4 ($0.25) loss due to operations. Excluding Investment losses, you would have made $0.13 in Q3. All Management needed to produce was a break-even Q4 before investment losses to show a good base before the additional volume came on in Q1. What shareholders got was the appearance of a Management Team and BOD that doesn't know what they are doing. Before reading that transcript I was willing to let you operate the business. Now, I want immediate liquidation or sale. It's probably the best chance for shareholders to regain lost principal in a reasonable time frame. You have a fiduciary responsibility to look at all options to maximize shareholder value including sale or liquidation of the company, unless you want to give earnings guidance for FY09.

  • bouttuimeuwokup by bouttuimeuwokup Mar 6, 2009 6:20 AM Flag

    The dividend doesn't mean anything if you lose 80% of your principal in the process. A share buyback would have been preferable during the past year because the book value per share would have risen or stayed flat (due to losses) essentially putting a floor on the stock price. The market has been pricing in a reduction of the dividend because they didn't believe it was sustainable after your Q3 results. The stock was punished today because the market wasn't anticipating a Q4 ($0.25) loss due to operations. Excluding Investment losses, you would have made $0.13 in Q3. All Management needed to produce was a break-even Q4 before investment losses to show a good base before the additional volume came on in Q1. What shareholders got was the appearance of a Management Team and BOD that doesn't know what they are doing. Before reading that transcript I was willing to let you operate the business. Now, I want immediate liquidation or sale. It's probably the best chance for shareholders to regain lost principal in a reasonable time frame. You have a fiduciary responsibility to look at all options to maximize shareholder value including a sale or liquidation of the company, unless you want to give earnings guidance for FY0

  • This is the same guy that has been there for years letting the last CEO run wild. He finally gets on a call because the other director and CFO can't explain himself and is a bumbling idiot.

  • bouttuimeuwokup by bouttuimeuwokup Mar 5, 2009 5:16 PM Flag

    These guys are milking this for a $40,000.00 directors fee with giving any help or guidance. Why would they not support a buyback, this group needs to go.

  • bouttuimeuwokup by bouttuimeuwokup Mar 5, 2009 5:14 PM Flag

    The gentleman who explained the benefit of the stock buy back was the only guy on the call who made sense. The CFO spoke to this as a bumbling idiot. I can't believe the board gets a $40,000.00 annual fee to allow this crap to go on.

  • Reply to

    I will continue to buy.

    by invest4lgtrm Nov 3, 2008 2:11 PM
    bouttuimeuwokup bouttuimeuwokup Nov 3, 2008 3:03 PM Flag

    UVE has a shitty reputation and tons of debt.TCHC writes business in several states and with several product lines. Just my thoughts.

  • I would hope the surge in price was to cellebrate that they had fired the last Lawson family member. I don't know if this has happened but if they have loped off the heads of all the friends and family of the Lawson's that worked at that company and served no greater purpose than to say "yes" that would be worth about a million a year in wasted salary.

    I know this takes time but hopefully they are moving in that direction. There's about five or six that I'm sure now for the first time have to work for a living but fact is they have never really had jobs without Ed or Michelle taking care of them and they will never be productive. Can't pay a person executive wages to work 5 hours a week and then think once years of that kind of entitlement ends that they will ever be able to work up to speed with what's the standard.

    Maybe that's the reason, the last "hanger-on" is gone?

  • Their goose is cooked. This company is loosing premium in every product they write. There is a bottom but were no where near it. See you at $5.00.

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