It's been another week of the same people saying the same thing.
The pumpers are saying that news will be out this week about a merger.
The dumpers are saying this stock is tanking.
And guess what.
It's the same old #$%$ so why don't you all just go away so us real investors can have a normal conversation about this company and the benefits of this drug.
With respect to both Longs (me) and Shorts (not me) you don't know anything more then Joe the Plumber.
Both sides kept posting when or if an FDA approval was coming and now you are both posting if or when a deal will be done.
YOU DON'T KNOW #$%$.
Anyone who knows what's going on is NOT going to be sitting at their computer talking in the Yahoo message boards. They will be spending their weekend in the Hamptons or on their Yacht somewhere else in this World.
I'm sure if we look back on all your older posts where you kept guessing the day or time or price or anything else we will see you were wrong 99.99% of the time and the other 0.01% of the time you used an alias to post.
ONCE AGAIN YOU DON'T KNOW #$%$.
I'm not trying to be rude but it's tiresome coming in here and instead of having a worthwhile conversation about the benefits of the drug and company and the excitement that us longs have been waiting for is coming to an end (whenever that may be) I have to scroll through hundreds of posts from every Joe the Plumber who Doesn't know #$%$ just to find one good post. There is more to this company than just Afrezza.
No alex I don't.
The reason I asked you if you work for STVF is because ever since you started posting on this board in Dec. you stick up for this company no matter what they do. If you are really an investor in this company and not an employee then you should be upset at the actions this company keeps taking.
No I am invested in STVF which is why I want them to do what they promise and start making money.
I want them to use what resources they have to produce revenue. Like using the land to grow Stevia and sell it to generate revenue, produce the extract that they supposedly have that was unveiled at the tasting event to generate revenue.
Look at the new financials burned more cash then any other quarter last year.
Alex... what does the fact that CEO's make more then the total cap of STVF have to do with this conversation?
And do you actually believe yourself?
How best to use their limited financial resources is to waste money on Artificial Intelligence that may not even help in the commercialization of Stevia.
And now your saying the new IP is what they need to produce higher Stevia, isn't that the same thing you said about the Vineland License. The competition needs this and they are infringing on STVF patents.
Doesn't look that way anymore does it. STVF has given up on the fermentation of Stevia. WHY?
And it now becomes clearer why Mr. Brookes has always been the poster child for Stevia whenever he spoke in public instead of talking about what his company was actually doing.
So I have one more question for you. As I have asked in the past when you first showed up on this board back in December. Do you actually work for this company?
And my answer to who your I-Hub username is has been answered.
I am a realist alex.
My question to you is...How you can not be upset with a company that constantly has not followed through with any promise, agreements, or partnerships they have formed over the last 12-18 months?
They gave up on the one promise they have been feeding us for the last year and a half. That they would have a table top sweetener on the market from their fermentation process.
If you look back on our discussions over the last few months it is pretty eerily consistent with what is happening today with this company.
I said there was no product and as mentioned they don't have one.
They have fed us with PR statements and CEO blogs about all the good things happening.
The land to grow and harvest Stevia.
Agreements with a distribution company in Canada.
The hiring of a holistic advisor.
And I could list more but we both know where this is going.
Not one of those carrots they fed us over the last year that I questioned, including the license from Vineland which with this new "agreement" with Qualipride kinda seems like I was on point with it being flawed.
But like you said in your other response to my other post.
This is my opinion and I am entitled to it just like you are.
But who do you think has been more accurate with their posts?
You the optimist.
or me the realist ( or negative as you call it).
I have read through it. The question is have you?
They admitted to shelving the production of table top sweetener which is why they started this journey to begin with so how can you say they are on the right track?
Seems to me as they have been derailed and now they are going in a different direction.
Not the first time this has happened.
According to the newest 10K report they have given up on putting a product on the shelves. How many times have a said they have NO product, and this pretty much proves I was right.
They will dilute us once again (probably more then once in the next 12 months).
They cannot guarantee the contracts with Qualipride can be enforced.
They have all these plans of production and development with no money.
They are not a proven company capable of producing Stevia which IMO is why Cargil and Coke went to Evolva instead of STVF.
The license with Vineland was flawed as I mentioned before which is why they mention in the new 10K that they can only be successful if they develop everything before the competitors, and to obtain and enforce patents and not infringe on third party proprietary rights". Which means they don't have the rights to the fermentation process like they led us to believe.
And now they say they will spend even more money on R&D that "could be used" for their fermentation process.
If you aren't sure it will help why waste MORE money on R&D.
The new 10K report IMO leads me to believe they are going to give up on Stevia all together and go into bio sciences again since all the employees are from that sector.
They will be a new 3D printing company in 12 months.
I have never had a problem posting on this board.
Does this mean you are giving up trying to defend this company on these message boards alex?
Going to try and get the people on I-Hub to believe you now?
Well I will post on both boards what I believe is a total scam of this company based on their new 10K report so you don't miss it.
It isn't whether the smokers want to use it but if their doctors will prescribe it to them which is most likely a big fat NO for the same reasons Mannkind doesn't want them to use it.
So IMO I think the box label is why the stock isn't going up. That takes a big chunk of patients from using it.
With all the positive news this month the stock has only gone up $0.04.
We don't need more deals and extraction methods we need products to generate revenue like they promised we would have this year.
Now with this new partnership they are saying things will happen within 12 months.
They keep setting a timeline and then continue to push it back more and more.
That in my opinion is the reason why this stock isn't moving on this news.
Gabriel this topic has been discussed many times.
If you have done your DD then you would know that Coke already has a relationship with Cargill and Evolva for Stevia.
If you want to pump STVF then maybe you should go to KO and post there.
Yes that is true, and like I mentioned in my other post let's hope it's for real and something will come of it. And they move quickly with this agreement or we will lose any gain again.
mysticmight6 I have reread the new PR and have done some more DD on this issue and can't seem to agree with you on this becoming a potential source of revenue or any more connections then they already have (which I don't think is many).
STVF is NOT taking over this Chinese company. Qualipride has many other products other then Stevia they make and sell. They have sales of only $10-50 million dollars (wide range) a year in Stevia compared to PureCircle which has over $70 Million.
SF Pure will be financed with up to $2.25 million dollars to pay for construction in California within 12 months.
SF Pure will "substantially take over the "distribution" of Stevia from Qualipride.
So basically as the parent company of SF Pure I will assume that the $2.25 million financing will come from STVF which we all know doesn't have any money.
Another STVF subsidiary will take over the distribution of Stevia in China for Qualipride. So basically they will become a store for Qualipride which means they don't get all the revenue.
As far as the connections part Mr #$%$ the founder of Qualipride has been on board with STVF since 09/17/2012. That's almost 2 years so I'm sure any connections that could be made are already made.
They basically have done the same thing with Qualipride that they have done with Vineland which makes me wonder.
They already have an extraction method, farmland, and license that they have yet to produce a product on the shelves so what makes this any different?
While I see this is good news somewhat, this is an "agreed in principle" which is not a signed contract.
But while reading this I am wondering why they are obtaining a new extraction method.
Was I right in questioning whether the license from Vineland was flawed ( which is why Evolva apparently using the same fermentation).
And they have NOW decided to start production of Stevia leafs in California.
I have mentioned they needed to do that 6 months ago.
While any good news is good for the stock I just hope it isn't another "carrot on a stick" like the hiring of an "advisor" back in Sept. of last year that has gone no where.
Lets hope this is for real because this stock has been slowly dying the last few months.
I guess you missed the article about Vitaminwater.
"Fans of Vitaminwater are demanding that parent company Coca-Cola drop a new formula that uses stevia, a low-calorie sweetener known for its metallic aftertaste".
Many people in this Country want chealthier drinks BUT they don't want to give up sugar for taste.