Have you noticed that is seems that there is more anger today when someone is telling you the truth than when someone is lying to you? But really that has been true forever. Think back in history on the Bible burnings and people being put to death for having a Bible. Now, how many people have been killed for having a Koran in their possession? Zilch. It is hard to get angry about fiction. The man was expressing his opinion, his constitutional right, obviously not popular with some, and it was based upon the Bible. The anger is about the truth of the Bible; otherwise he would have been ignored. Do you want the good and bad news now when you can do something about it, or do you only want the bad news later on when the good news has expired and you can't do anything about it?
Reminds me of an art project that I had in junior high school. Made of cardboard, wood, and clothe-hanger wire, and painted with psychedelic colors, it had a large hand crank that ultimately moved a piston up and down in the apparatus. It called it the "do nothing machine". Like Obamacare. Reportedly, admittedly by HHS, 10 to 25% of those that "signed up" their applications went into the Obomosphere and will be surprised on January 1st that their critical cancer treatment is not covered, 'cause they ain't got no insurance.
The water shortage is purely artificial and orchestrated. Where you have a shortage you have the need for control. Control is power. The planet is covered with water. All that is required is to manage it. If what we have is a 5% shortage today, what will that "shortage" be when the population doubles? Assuming no additional supplies are added. It will be a 50%+ shortage. Now, eventually the conservation method of management will not work. Available water drops below the need for a viable society. Does that work in the Sudan? Of course not. They are destitute and the place is parched. Is there water nearby? Yes (Red Sea). Do they have the money to do something about the salt water de-salinization? No. They don't have any money. We have money. The UAE has money and they de-salinate. We should be making sure that there will always be an adequate supply of water and for the cheapest possible price. The government's job here is to facilitate not dictate - unless one likes fascism and being controlled. Some do.
The right answer is get more water - as well as employ a reasonable amount of conservation. The planet is full of the stuff. Conservation - as an exclusive solution - in light of a growing population is myopic. California has passed about a dozen bond measures nearly totaling $8 billion since 1976 - though resulting in not one additional gallon of water being provided. Can you smell the malfeasance and fraud? In 2014, a $11 billion bond measure will be put before the public - but with "promises" that the money will not be misused. This time. Right. San Francisco plans to eliminate the Hetch Hetchty reservoir (which it owns) - not because it is damaged or failing - but to restore that part of Yosemite which has not been seen, except by the fish, since 1923. Basically, California has lost its mind.
Generally, I do not disagree with what you just said. Yet you said the following: "This little Biblical "justification" for trashing the planet was go egregious I just had to point out the utter hypocrisy of cherry picking the Bible the way he does." Go back and read what I said - which was to simply quote God's word and point out that He did not establish a criteria for limiting His directive. From my point of view, the global warming alarm is all about control of population and control of behavior. And its intent is nefarious, not Godly. Of course, that is my opinion based upon observing those that promote the global warming mantra and especially those that promote it for selfish and greedy purposes. Does that mean I am interested in trashing the planet? Your opinion is your own, I do not hold anything against anyone who speaks ill towards me. I certainly would not hold such a thing against a brother in Christ - if that is the case. In fact, on this message board, I get used to it. I get annoyed, but fired up angry and spew hate, no. Merry Christmas.
Thanks for jumping in and providing the truth on the context. I am very disappointed that tech would devolve into this kind of deception. He redacted the words that clarified the intent of the verse so that he could imply that it meant something with erroneous contemporary meaning. Very, very bad.
Now, that being said, I am sure that God also would not be pleased with (contemporary) pollution - things like DDT and benzene. That is being managed. Tech pointed out the verse about "taking care of the earth". But to equate pollution with carbon dioxide (I am now assuming his point) - a natural and expected effluence of expanded human living - is simply ludicrous. It plays into the hands of the global controllers - who are simply evil. Does not Gore's hypocrisies related to several carbon belching mansions and his sexual philandering give one pause for thought? If not, why not?
The Lord does not say anywhere that man should stop fulfilling his commandment to "fill the earth" until some parameter or other is violated or when he feels like it. It is a matter of obedience or disobedience and faith or lack thereof.
Who said anything about "trashing the planet"? Sounds judgmental to me. Oh, I am sorry, liberals do not judge anyone. The fact that you reject what is said in the Bible is not my problem it is your problem.
In Matthew, chapter 24, at the "Olivet Discourse", Jesus told His disciples the following: "You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains" (v 6-8).
He goes on to talk about persecution and falling away of the believers: “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come" (v 9-14).
One perspective is to anticipate with joy that the Lord is coming, and apparently soon. For those that do not believe in Jesus, it will be terrifying.
We know that God told man “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground” (Genesis 1:28). Most are familiar with this passage. But in Isaiah it is even more pointed, perhaps anticipating the "Al Gores" of the world: "For this is what the Lord says - he who created the heavens; he is God; he who fashioned and made the earth, he founded it; he did not create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited" (Isaiah 45:18). Those pushing the global warming mantra are simply saying that they do not believe what is written in the Bible (or, until just now, were ignorant of what it says.) They are saying, in effect, that they either do not believe in God or that He did not know what He was doing when He told man to fill the earth and subdue it. Perhaps God is mocking Al Gore by making it snow in Cairo. Do not bring up the "global climate change" malarky since "warming" has been thrown out the window. It is all about control and it is all about disobedience to God. Only Satan is served by controlling the population of the world. Jesus was right when He spoke about the end-times (now): "People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken." (Luke 21:26)
You failed your assignment. F.
You brought up WalMart. I said, if the WalMart heirs are greedy or uncharitable, that is their problem. And will have to answer for that. And if people can't keep their eyes off someone else's money, that is envy. The latter made the big time of sins - as a commandment. The former did not. You can look up the word "envy" on the internet - for free. So, when you get into the voting booth and you think that no One is watching, you are wrong. What is in your heart when you vote to increase others' taxes while lowering your own? Envy? The "secret" ballot does not give you a pass on sin.
You are obsessed with other people's money. Enough said. Your assignment is to read the 10th commandment again and again and again until you understand it.
Be careful, grandson Sam Rawlings Walton gave $300K to Obama's Pac in 2012. The problem is not that rich people are making money, the problem is that other people are not making more money. Go ahead and take the money from the rich, it will have no lasting impact. The so-called "1%" in the U.S. makes 10% of the total earned + investment (i.e., non-corporate) income. Distributing that over the 99% would only make an approx. 10% change in their situation. With no money and no incentive for the "rich", the folks that make wealth happen, the economy would eventually collapse. If they are greedy, that is their problem. But do not assume that they are not charitable - just because they have money. If the poor are envious, that is also their problem. The Pope is totally in error by pandering to the envy associated with wealth. Note that Jesus never condemned anyone for being rich, He pointed out that it was an impediment to setting one's heart right with the Lord. The Lord made Abraham rich. He made Solomon rich. He made Job rich. Apparently, the Lord does not have an issue with people making money - just the love of money. The Pope, on the other hand, speaking without biblical authority, has an issue with people making money.
Isn't Pope Francis' speech a complete treatise on judging? The Pope has no more moral authority than you and I. He is a man - a sinner, like you and I. "Pope Francis said in the first peace message of his pontificate that huge salaries and bonuses are symptoms of an economy based on greed and inequality and called again for nations to narrow the wealth gap." Assigning the term "greed" to the amount that one is compensated for their work is a judgment. Instructing the nations to "narrow the wealth" - which can only be done by fiat and law, if not outright theft - is the essence of violating the Tenth Commandment. Thus, Pope Francis takes on the form of an apostate.
Risking "beating a dead horse", I will offer you two observations:
1) Sarcasm and lack of being genuine - "My Dear Friend and Pal and Spiritual Advisor Bulky Bob"
2) Holier than thou - "instead I'll simply celebrate that we are different. And I'll thank my Creator for this difference"
A lesson for us both. We look at what we write and may try to be careful but how someone else views the prose often is not equal.
Now, I am not sharing this to rile or catigate. In my case, I am like the song writer, John Newton, once a slave trade ship captain, who wrote, "Amazing Grace, How sweet the sound, That saved a wretch like me...." And I would simply thank Him that He saw fit to forgive me of my sins that well deserve me of eternal punishment.
There was a Reverend on Fox News this evening being interviewed by O'Reilly. I am sure that you are not surprised. The man said that Mandela had a transformation while in prison. No doubt. My point was that there were methods leading up to the demise of apartheid that were despicable - on the part of the Mandela's. Apartheid was also despicable. But if we are going to celebrate one's life, we should not leave behind those things for which there is no repentance. Otherwise, we celebrate the "ends that justify the means". Did the Mandela's repent of that behavior? I did not find anything to that effect. It is a matter of keeping things in perspective. If we give a "pass" on that behavior, for whatever politically expedient reason, then we accept it in the future from other opportunists.
"Try reading Matthew this time, only a little more carefully than ever before." And, this coming from a fellow with "666" in his screen ID. LOL
I am at peace. My feet are planted on a firm foundation of faith in trust in Jesus as my Savior. How about you?
I was simply pointing out that Mandela's complex contribution was a blemished if not false sainthood. I realize that that does not sit well with those that are delusional about the methods of socialists, communists, and others of that ilk - due to the "ends justify the means" principle. Yes, the truth hurts sometimes. Tough.
As to the value of posts, some demonstrate only an ability to offer "cat calls" and other "meeting bombs". Some make the assumption that their mere presence is value in and of itself. You don't like my posts because it convicts you of the truth. Again, tough. As Pastor Warren said to Pirs Morgan recently, "I fear the disapproval of God more than I fear the disapproval of you."
And five thumbs up to yourself within 13 minutes! I think that that is a record. Or something else. Charts, don't tell me that you don't know how to use a web search engine. Try "necklacing + mandela" - there you will find 37,700 results. "parable"? More like indictment is the operative term.