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ca_observer 60 posts  |  Last Activity: Jun 22, 2016 6:29 PM Member since: Jan 14, 2000
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    by fbw117 May 16, 2016 8:17 AM
    ca_observer ca_observer May 23, 2016 1:01 PM Flag

    Bene on the road. Back Friday. Will try on the coming weekend. Expecting some announcement(s) from hopTo at the show

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    by fbw117 May 16, 2016 8:17 AM
    ca_observer ca_observer May 17, 2016 4:44 PM Flag

    I do agree Eldad is well suited for CTO role or similar. Definitely not CEO. If hopTo remain independent I suspect there will be an appropriate CEO appointed, IF they remain independent....

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    by fbw117 May 16, 2016 8:17 AM
    ca_observer ca_observer May 17, 2016 3:13 PM Flag

    CTXS needs to see teh product shipping and needs to see some happy customers. then, IMO, it will be a race as to who gobbles hopTo up. Question of time IMO. the Windows IE piece is a big catalyst IMO.

    Anyone of Apple, MSFT, CTXS, VMware would be good candidtes. I can explain in detail as to why if peopel wish

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    by fbw117 May 16, 2016 8:17 AM
    ca_observer ca_observer May 17, 2016 3:11 PM Flag

    Apologies. When I said "game over" I meant hopTo will be taken out. Very clear to me. All positive.
    hopTo technology and IP is incredibly relevant. I ma more bullish than ever tbh.
    I bought more today ...

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    Reactions to Concall?

    by fbw117 May 13, 2016 9:17 AM
    ca_observer ca_observer May 13, 2016 5:32 PM Flag

    down 2% on not much volume. Had a good run recently. Was 80c not long ago.

    Think the smart money is awaiting (1) shipping of product (2) news at Synergy show (3) reception of product

    Honestly I do think it is game over.

    hopTo value and IP is worth a lot of money hopTo but this much money is almost chub change to Citrix.

    The value hopTo would add to Citrix would literally be 1 or more billion in market cap IMO.

    Imagine Citrix being the sole provider of native ipad experience for 16M Windows apps (protected by a ton of approved patents). What is that worth? Priceless ....

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    Reactions to Concall?

    by fbw117 May 13, 2016 9:17 AM
    ca_observer ca_observer May 13, 2016 3:18 PM Flag

    1. Support by Citrix C level people for hopTo
    2. HopTo waiting on something from Citrix to finish product
    3. Citrix is motivated to finish for the Synergy show
    4. EOH very interesting partnership. Big Citrix and MSFT partner with big MS Dymanic deployments that have zero real ipad soluitons
    5. Patenes just continue
    6. A few options to raise money bith dilutive, minimally dilutive and non dilutive.
    7. Citrix clearly excited by hopTo as they should be
    8. Big financial institution very interested in hopTo. Who is it? JP Morgan? BoA? Morgan Stanley?
    9. New Board of Advisors. Incredibly impressive
    10. If they ship hopTo in time for Synergy as I believe they will and get good reception well we all know what will happen ....right?

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    from ciitrix blog

    by ca_observer May 7, 2016 9:04 AM
    ca_observer ca_observer May 9, 2016 9:04 AM Flag

    not at all unreasonable

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    Think about this...

    by rackshacknbennyprofile May 8, 2016 11:35 PM
    ca_observer ca_observer May 9, 2016 3:07 AM Flag

    this makes for an excellent, well informed and credible read. Thank you. It does seem that Citrix is looking to gauge customer/partner reaction. The other protective aspect of this hopTo upside are that most of hopTo's 46 awarded patents are around the hopTo product elements itself.

    I do think we are getting closer to hopTo bing taken out. It is not clear by whom yet but CTXS, Microsoft, VMWare must be leading suitors ....

  • ca_observer by ca_observer May 7, 2016 9:04 AM Flag

    Alan Osborne • 16 hours ago
    Would love to see this sort of functionality built into XenDesktop/XenApp 7.8 and newer at some point, perhaps through an acquisition of hopTo...
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    Playing the Waiting Game?

    by fbw117 May 6, 2016 10:26 AM
    ca_observer ca_observer May 7, 2016 5:34 AM Flag

    can only go on empirical evidence.

    Almost out of nowhere, where hopTo looked to be struggling to find their way to capitalize on great mobility IP, along comes Citrix, a $12Bn company that is now all over hopTo. It is not common that CTXS promotes its own joint seminar with another company.

    "Deliver Citrix Xenapp Touch Enabled - just add hopTo" is the billing of the CITRIX seminar. That is powerful. There are 300 million users of Xenapp.

    Then you have hopTo at the Citrix Summit show later this month. hopTo is a sponsor of this event and the company (hopTo) has already signaled more announcements at the show

    Finally after a few years hopTo appears to have qualified and well supported momentum.

    Could we be wrong? One can never guarantee but where there is so much positive smoke there must surely be a positive raging fire

    ...and I have yet to embark and share the IP/Patents developments. It is amazing some the patents hopTo have been awarded. Quite amazing. I encourage all to do their own DD. Patents alone are worth 5x to 10x current market cap IMO. Never forget Cronin is on the board. People should research Cronin ....

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    Playing the Waiting Game?

    by fbw117 May 6, 2016 10:26 AM
    ca_observer ca_observer May 6, 2016 11:16 AM Flag

    people asleep at the wheel

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    by lkjf1985 May 4, 2016 6:48 PM
    ca_observer ca_observer May 5, 2016 12:49 PM Flag

    the Citrix tweet I saw stated 300 million Citrix XA & AD users, 180 million ipads, and 16 million windows apps - connect them lll with hopTo and CitrixReady. Then it provided the link to the Citrix hopTo seminar onMay 11 - next week

  • ca_observer by ca_observer May 3, 2016 7:15 PM Flag

    HPTO simply cannot stay down here for much longer. read the tea leaves folk......

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    lot of volume towards end of the day

    by bleep_777 May 3, 2016 6:34 PM
    ca_observer ca_observer May 3, 2016 6:50 PM Flag

    yup. There were blocks of 10K and 5K at the end. Suspect same buyer. 15K shares.

    momentum indeed. Could be that someone knows something also. I wonder ....

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    HopTo now has 46 awarded patents

    by ca_observer May 3, 2016 7:55 AM
    ca_observer ca_observer May 3, 2016 1:36 PM Flag

    broader awareness of IP & Patents simply comes with increasing success of hopTo product. Leadership (with excellent guidance from Cronin on the board) has put hopTo in a very, very powerful position. Frankly I am amazed how some these patents were awarded to hopTo. The patents / IP alone are worth tens of millions of dollars if not much more .....

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    HopTo now has 46 awarded patents

    by ca_observer May 3, 2016 7:55 AM
    ca_observer ca_observer May 3, 2016 1:33 PM Flag

    (2 of 2)

    These priority time dates are relevant, I believe, because on February 2, 2016, Apple was granted a patent which addresses the same area. I have copied a description of the Apple patent below (google "Apple patents hover-sensing multitouch display")

    I believe the significance of Apple’s patent may be that Apple plans to release hardware devices (iPhones, iPads) that support hover gesture detection. In theory, this could increase the value of hopTo’s patent. WhileI cannot be 100%certain I reading the patents correctly, but my interpretation is that what Apple has patented relates more to the hardware required (photodiodes and other proximity sensing h/w) whereas the hopTo patent covers ACTUALLY USING devices that might have this capability to access remote applications from mobile devices. So this alone could be huge. And something that hopTo leadership had the vision to file a patent on back in 2013.

    This is just one example.

    Granted by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office on Tuesday, February 2, 2016. Apple's U.S. Patent No. 9,250,734 for "Proximity and multi-touch sensor detection and demodulation" details methods by which photodiodes, or other proximity sensing hardware, work in tandem with traditional multitouch displays to essentially shift the user interaction area beyond the screen. In some ways the invention is similar in scope to 3D Touch, but measures input in an opposite direction along the z-axis relative to an iPhone's screen.

    With today's patent, Apple proposes a more intimate solution optimized for use in iPhone, MacBook and other portable devices. Like current iOS devices, the invention includes in part a capacitive sensing element disposed throughout an LCD display with multiple piggybacked proximity sensors. This hybrid solution provides a more complete "image" of touch inputs by delivering hover gesture detection.

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    HopTo now has 46 awarded patents

    by ca_observer May 3, 2016 7:55 AM
    ca_observer ca_observer May 3, 2016 1:29 PM Flag

    ( 1 of 2)

    well funny you should refer to Apple and gestures.

    On March 15, 2013 (the “priority date”), hopTo filed a patent application for: touch-based hovering on remote devices. The idea, as described in the patent application, is:

    "When a user holds one or more fingers above a touch-enabled client device, the user fingers may be detected. Further, the screen coordinates of the fingers above the client device are determined. The coordinates, along with a command regarding a hover event, are sent to a host device with which the client device has an open remote session. The host device may execute the command in accordance with the coordinates to effect a hover event. Display instructions are sent from the host device to the client device, which generates a client device display including a hover event corresponding to that executed on the host device.”

    This patent, No. 9,146,633 was granted on September 29, 2015.

    So, keep these dates in mind: filed on March 15, 2013 and then granted on September 29, 2015.

  • ca_observer ca_observer May 3, 2016 8:40 AM Flag

    here's the quote I like from EOHTechnologies: "This is a compelling solution for customers that are looking to leverage their investment in existing infrastructure while taking full advantage of exciting new mobile devices.”

    EOH is a big Citrix and MSFT partner. Their 2015 revenues exceeded 670M USD.

    Seems like an ideal partnership for both HopTo and EOH

  • For the poster that was asking about IP. As of Q4 earnings call there were a total 45 patents awarded. as of 2015 there were 37 patents granted and another 8 in 2016 so far as per the earnings call. Since then another patent was awarded towards the of April 2016 (just a few days ago)

    Most of these patents are relevant to the HopTo product

    HopTo is in a very strong position.

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    by ca_observer May 2, 2016 12:39 PM
    ca_observer ca_observer May 2, 2016 1:36 PM Flag

    The magnitude of the problem that HopTo solves is of a proportion that is massive and not at all reflected in the stock. There are literally millions of home grown Windows apps that are often mission critical in the following industries: retail, finance, healthcare, pharma, construction, insurance and others. Windows apps and/or Windows IE browser apps. HopTo will be the defacto solution for mobility for these apps.

    The IP is immense. The company's strategy has been to leverage Mr Cronin's experience in patents/IP (he is on the board - research him). Most of the patents are relevant to HopTo products and are wide in scope. Including even patents for look and feel of controls and images (!!!!) for mobile devices.

    It has taken a while but we are now seeing a great strategy with a little luck (MAX IE) playing out.

    Huge opportunity. It is clear that Citrix (a $12Bn company) has openly recognized HopTo. Joint CTXS/HPTO seminar May 11 followed by Citrix Summit May 24 - 26 where HopTo is a major sponsor.

    Keep an ear out for the announcements is my guess

    We will not see these levels again IMO

    Most encouraging ....

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