Wait it out. They can pull the rug out from under the PPS on any news simply because big money as a whole is after retail shares not the ones put up to create the market. Esai could easily begin to take a position here and steal the share. Why don't they? We are outsiders and its part of the wink and nod game that goes on you and I are not part of. There is no more compelling buy in the market. Wait for them to give up the con game.
Im sorry Sharon. This bump by Q to 6%. LOL is bogus. This Q's competitor B is clean and a head to head safety comparison is a no brainer. Doctors are tip toeing around all obesity treatments and Q is up 6%. The numbers just don't make sense. They are after retail to capitulate and need something bigger than this bull #$%$.
Sharon or anyone. Math directs all things we deal with in this space and time. For Belviq to now be below the growth % of Q is not Math. I understand the parts of this journey where deception and manipulation is part of Monies ability but the Script numbers look now to be tainted with this poison. I will be railed as a whiner because of this post but the Math doesn't make sense at all. In fact there should be a substantial bounce from the advertising that is now in place. There was in previous weeks a Math equation where Q was losing Market share to B. Sorry peeps the Math doesn't make sense.
Ed I totally agree with you. It would seem like this type of action should have investigators all over this. Take away the uptick and ALL things that happen that relate also are covered under the safety net for those that can but law changes and lobby their position with SEC who really are at their whim.
I agree but if I stamped a 30 multiple only you and a handful plus the FUD campaign would understand. You are absolutely on the dot with where the potential lies. Hence we get a rundown in the face of all the facts telling us they want in and will get at the retail shares at all costs. Wellington was smart as they added 4 million shares at around $8 ish surmising that the shares when released on the slow machine rundown would be also captured by those machines. You can pick your multiple. Diabetes alone could double the income early once it is approved and figured in.
Hi aaron. Not intended. I believe that the facts far out weigh this run down. The rundown itself in the face of the facts even adds more fuel to the Long's position. Wall Street has become quite open and flagrant with their actions of flaunting their power in the face of the facts, Just using a side by side comparison of VVUS and ARNA is enough for even a novice investor to see how what they say and do means for the watcher or reader to approach it from the opposite direction. Here it becomes a no brainer as this equity if treated the same as VVUS should be in the $35 to $50 range just on a comparison?
Markets eventually get to where they are suppose to be. Crazy but if you are retail and believe the facts and not the trading as do the Institutions then their rundown to free up shares, collect stops, while they cover becomes a gift to you. Its only when you look it the mirror that things make sense sometimes. Know what you own and allow the facts and Math to direct your decisions not emotions.
They are after the same retail or now any shares they can get their hands on. There would, should be a mad rush but Institutional players are all together in this as they calculate how to gain access to the 100 million retail shares being held. I suspect they will take it as low as they can to get those shares. It will have to play out. There has been no capitulation type volume simply because the story surrounding Belviq is holding all longs in place. Success and truth mixed with too much manipulation, stories and all together deception was enough to keep the retail solid through the rundown. Its now at a gift location and soon there will be a flat line where stops will be precariously set. From that spot the Hedge can dip this to gather the shares or continue down to the next trap area and repeat. The turn will happen midday market trading.
They had to do this. Retail has the shares. There is no way to get them but seek stops and create pain. It gives them the lowest cover price, provides the cheapest entry and gives them the greatest access to retail shares. I wouldn't do margin but I would look at getting as much a position as possible on their nickel. Remember that the real turn will have volume and will probably occur mid day after a trap door drop to get at stops. Happy hunting peeps the turn is near.
People its not even Belviq anymore. The only thing that will send this higher is Institutional buying. There are no shares for sale. They want millions upon millions for cover and accumulation. Wellington hasn't sold one share yet or they have to declare. Same for Vanguard and anyone at 5% or above. They aren't going to get your shares unless you sell them. Hold them and eventually the game will play out. Institutions aren't going to sit on this as Belviq changes the landscape of medicine and obesity treatment. Get a position, add and hunker down till the game plays out. You will be handsomely rewarded.
Retail has what they need. No matter that the third grade trash continues to post nonsense Eisai is working there plan. This will eventually turn with volume. They need countless shares for cover. There are millions of shares waiting to be purchased. Two markets worth Billions are yet to be realized. Your shares sold now feed the monster and reduce the cover lift. Be patient and know that what goes down in this case will go up.
It is how they get shares. Nothing else has worked. Osborne is impotent. His weekly sales pitch has lost its effectiveness weeks ago. They need something to get cover for a massive short position. The longer they wait the more difficult it becomes. This could be a last gasp. There has been no flash crash yet but still possible with their power. Stops are the Hedges friend and actually provide fuel for rundowns as they cover and accumulate. We have to look at this as a contrarian indicator otherwise they would have pumped this back to $13.50. They want those retail shares. All 100 Million if possible before they let it go. You and I just have to outlast them.
Use VVUS as an example. The Institutions knew they had a dog yet the PPS they controlled went up. They are still pumping air into that. Eventually VVUS will head lower. Here the opposite is happening. The Hedge was here at 13.50 and intentionally held it at 10 to catch as many short shares as possible before taking it lower. They have many people in place. Osborne is just one of the many tools including Credit Suisse. Look at this as a confirmation of all that really is being said. Here lies a monster that in the years to come will be probably the stock of the decade not only vin growth but in what the Medical world will call a miracle drug.
ben...The silence is telling you something. It could be the same issue Belviq, Arena and Eisai have faced from the very start. The system players are established. You and I as retail are the dog on the porch only. We bark when there's intruders. In turn we get a bone thrown to us but are not allowed in the house. ARNA will be with the Institutions that are accumulating who are already onboard with large positions. They have probably talked about getting help to get at retail shares if that were possible. They are not mean spirited. They are just navigating this landscape with the players and rules that were present before they arrived. The key is the downside trade is running out of room. The script numbers and DTC are mathematically connected so should show an increase eventually. Todays action by Credit Suisse has many blushing as this is nothing more than a deceptive approach by an Institution that looks to be in your face manipulation to build a position for someone.
The once fairly integral markets have spiraled down into a con game controlled by less than scrupulous players with money and power. Power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely. Be patient and wait it out. They still need shares for their cover. They couldn't just drop it so used one of their tools to present the downgrade so they could get the reason for their drop to get at shares. Stops are just shares the Hedge really owns that are being held with your capital. They thank you for keeping them safe. This part must play out and bottom probed until a turn with volume occurs. This could be the week.
Good one Jim. In turn that agenda they are pushing is saying all kinds of hidden things. The only available shares are retail. about 100 million they want at least some of that for cover. Like two year olds holding onto a rattle they won't let go of. We are here in a Mexican standoff, waiting for someone with deep enough pockets to move this market out of this pen. No one has the shares to give away at these prices down here so any substantial position now taken will upset this apple cart and may create a rush.
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That's exactly the problem. You are playing like a little kid. With no thought to what you are doing. We are going to walk your shares down. We will take your 'play' money and then we will see how much you don't need it. I don't want to hear any whining...
meg there was a change today. This is bottoming action as they wait out what will happen next. The Shares they somehow generate off this option BS is will eventually fall short of dealing with the buyers looking to flip, start or add to their position.. The MCAP is lofty enough to keep most away. Institutions will not upset this operation as the Hedge tries to get retail to cover their short position.. There are no shares for sale. Institutions are not unwinding as that has moved up in the last reporting to 48% with total institutional positions 159 down from 162. The Institutions that stayed took those shares plus some retail. That should be enough DD to let you know that they expect this to not produce shares here as the Institutions looked to have taken all available shares e3xceot for those used to create the market. I don't think the funds will leave unless someone dies from Belviq. At least two money streams in the Billions, Obesity and diabetes are waiting to be served. We are in the very early beginnings of a huge market share exchange that is about to take place. Those that will lose are pushing buttons and pulling levers to slow this Belviq miracle drug down.
The Hedge has the whole retail world froze here danosaur. Those that have cash and wanted in have taken their position already. The rest are waiting for a lift with confirming volume. They are just here fishing for worn down retail or those leaving for a right now trade. Institutional players will put this into the teens when they start. Add covering at the same time and you and I will get some revenge from the abuse we have suffered.
Right on dinosaur. Peeps have to do their own DXD and make their own decisions. This looks to be a gift entry that Must be looked at with all available tools. Soon this will become an "I wish I would have memory only."