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carsonogenik 121 posts  |  Last Activity: Jul 11, 2014 11:45 PM Member since: Dec 30, 2001
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  • carsonogenik carsonogenik May 1, 2014 3:14 AM Flag

    But what does that have to do with treason or being 'Anti-American?'

  • carsonogenik carsonogenik May 1, 2014 3:09 AM Flag

    I agree that Obama lied during his 2008 and 2012 campaigns; plus, I will agree that he's lied multiple times during his terms as President. As a liberal and as someone who actually holds honesty in some regard, and as someone who voted for him twice, Obama really needs to be castigated as a liar.

    But you don't care about lying per se; you only care about Obama's lies. Indeed: Bush's lies resulted in hundreds of thousands of corpses and US economic losses of trillion$. Where was your moral outrage??

    It is not that you are simply a hypocrite; don't get me wrong. You are an ignorant, idiotic hypocrite and a possible case study in sociopathy; like most US right wing conservatives, you lack anything resembling a moral or ethical context dependent on framing your 'values.'

  • carsonogenik by carsonogenik May 1, 2014 2:15 AM Flag

    generally, a circuit that feeds back some of the output to the input of a system

    "In climate change, a feedback loop is the equivalent of a vicious or virtuous circle – something that accelerates or decelerates a warming trend. A positive feedback accelerates a temperature rise, whereas a negative feedback decelerates it."

    Hmm well let's see: human industry destroys forests and pollutes the world oceans (impeding algea) resulting in a sum corruption of photosynthesis, which itself can be described generally as impeding the 'translation' of sunlight+CO2 into calories and O2; meanwhile and simultaneously, human industry emitting more CO2 and methane.

    So what we're looking at, in effect, is a continually accerelerating positive feedback loop system that is measurable but decried and opposed by supposed 'captains of industry'/job creators worried about profit margins on some balance sheet that will inevitably result in economic catastrophe.

  • carsonogenik carsonogenik May 1, 2014 12:24 AM Flag

    You pretend to know what you are talking about, but you don't.

    OK; feel free to tell me what I'm talking about.

  • Reply to

    2011-2014 GDP compared-CHINA=+24.7%-USA=+7.6%

    by cpwrguy_99 Apr 30, 2014 1:15 PM
    carsonogenik carsonogenik May 1, 2014 12:20 AM Flag

    2011-2014 GDP compared-CHINA=+24.7%-USA=+7.6%

    Not sure what that means, but I'll take a stab

    a) The Chinese gov't has about 5x the labor force of the US; and
    b) the Chinese gov't is arguably as corrupt as the US gov't, but
    c) not quite as hopelessly corrupt as richest billionaire in the universe Carlos Slim's Mexican pseudo-government, which brings us to
    d) the corporate offshoring/outsourcing fetish, hence
    e) recent US college grads working temp jobs and/or asking if you want fries with that because US freedom

    In a related internal rant, I'm wondering why US conservatives oppose learning about world history and foreign languages...但我想这是一个反问句

  • Reply to

    Impeach Obama

    by andimsupposedtobecrazy Apr 30, 2014 6:46 PM
    carsonogenik carsonogenik Apr 30, 2014 11:53 PM Flag

    The conservative inability to distinguish ideology from facts explains why Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert have been so hugely successful lo these past 15 years.

    Indeed, concepts like "satire" and even more broadly, "comedy" are largely lost on today's wingnut conservatives. (for example, Hannity's claim that Stewart is a hack and an Obama apologist is a joke in itself)

  • Reply to

    Impeach Obama

    by andimsupposedtobecrazy Apr 30, 2014 6:46 PM
    carsonogenik carsonogenik Apr 30, 2014 10:11 PM Flag

    Good luck with that.

    Let's assume the GOP takes the Senate in November while keeping (or increasing) House majority.
    Then assume someone in the House introduces a bill calling for Obama's impeachment.

    First of all, if the Republicans can carry the initial House vote to impeach Obama, it will be perceived as Republicans being racist in the public sphere.

    Second, anyone in the Senate who votes in favor of the House bill will also be labeled a racist.
    Basically what this means is that the GOP will have kissed goodbye to all future House/Senate elections at the federal level...likely that perception will carry over to state/local elections, at which point the Republican attempt at voter-suppression and gerrymandering really comes into play.

    Third, Joe (tons more liberal than Obama) Biden would become US President, and would immediately nominate a vice president, at which point the presumptive GOP controlled Congress's insane opposition to the Democratic-owned executive branch will truly flower. Functionally, this means the US would be without a sitting VP (I seriously doubt John The Orange Drunk Boehner wants to be caught up in that) unless Biden nominates whichever professional liar passing as a self-professed conservative moderate these daze. Maybe Chief Justice Roberts or Jon Huntsman. LOL.

  • carsonogenik carsonogenik Apr 30, 2014 9:01 PM Flag

    Do you support deporting traitors (defined as actions commited by people who actively refuse to recognize the authority of the United States federal government)?

    This is a pretty simple question, and is answerable via a simple Yes/No.
    ...However, if you must, feel free to qualify your answer with appropriate amounts of factual emptiness and illogic.

  • carsonogenik carsonogenik Apr 30, 2014 6:10 PM Flag

    Nothing like comparative poll numbers 74 months into a presidency!

    What is funniest about the April 2006 v April 2014 comparison is that in the first case, Bush's approval ratings were lower despite having a Republican Congress (both chambers) and despite being well over a year before public acknowledgement of his/their destruction of the US economy.

    President (Bill) Clinton's approval ratings in April 1998? 63%.

    Everyone seems to have forgotten what a truly lousy and unpopular President Bush was.

  • carsonogenik carsonogenik Apr 30, 2014 5:56 PM Flag

    Right - its not the amount of warming, but the rate at which it is occurring.

    Additionally, crappygambler's claim "NCDC, RSS, and UAH monthly global mean surface or lower-troposphere temperature anomalies shows no global warming statistically distinguishable from zero over the 18 full years from March 1996 to February 2014. The 0.14 Cº trend over the 18-year period is within the ±0.15 Cº combined measurement, coverage, and bias uncertainties in the datasets. There may have been no global warming at all during the entire lifetimes of all students now in high school"

    is completely disingenuous.

    "Ocean warming dominates the increase in energy stored in the climate system, accounting for more than 90% of the energy accumulated between 1971 and 2010." --Climate Change 2013: The Physical Science Basis, IPCC

    Direct results include changes in sea ice currents, which is 99.9% likely what happened with regards to the increase in ice around Alaska.

    Once again - Global Warming is a GLOBAL phenomenon; measuring it at a specific local level --by specific region or a specific time internal-- is just silly.

  • Reply to

    Only a Dimbocrat would do such a thing

    by pumpdy_dumpy12 Apr 26, 2014 6:32 PM
    carsonogenik carsonogenik Apr 27, 2014 6:42 AM Flag

    HOW did this paedophile get/hold down a job for 20 yrs with 30 pre-puberty kids?

    1) Holy Roman Catholic Church
    2) القرآن. لقد أنعم الله على أن يكون النبي!

  • Reply to

    Huckabee on FOX - Bundy's done

    by b767cpt1 Apr 26, 2014 8:35 PM
    carsonogenik carsonogenik Apr 27, 2014 6:29 AM Flag

    I put twenty years of my life in service for this country.

    On behalf of this country, I'm glad it was only twenty years.

  • Reply to

    Clive Bundy belongs in prison

    by carsonogenik Apr 26, 2014 3:51 PM
    carsonogenik carsonogenik Apr 26, 2014 7:42 PM Flag

    Is there any extant argument claiming that Bundy should not be arrested? Adding to his crimes, this teabagger icon for the neoConfederacy has essentially admitted to being a terrorist:

    “Cliven Bundy does not recognize the United States,” Reid said. “He says that the United States is a foreign government. He doesn’t pay his taxes. He doesn’t pay his fees. And he doesn’t follow the law. He continues to thumb his nose at authority.”

    Bundy is firing back, though, with the help of FOX News hero Eric Bolling–by admitting he is, in actuality, a homegrown terrorist. “Well, I guess he’s right,” Bundy said, “I don’t know what else we’d be. We’re definitely citizens riled up. I don’t know whether you could call us terrorists."

    Right! because one man's terrorist is another man's "freedom fighter" therefore blah blah blah. Osama bin Laden was just channeling George Washington.

  • carsonogenik by carsonogenik Apr 26, 2014 3:51 PM Flag

    Actor Wesley Snipes spent three years in jail for failing to file tax returns from 1999 to 2001. Rancher Cliven Bundy hasn’t paid the federal government its due in more 20 years. But this lawbreaker is not in jail; he’s grabbing headlines while ripping off American taxpayers.

    Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy was all over the national media this past week when federal Bureau of Land Management agents seized his cattle to settle the more than $1 million in unpaid fines he’d racked up since 1993. Armed militants flocked to Bundy’s side, prompting the bureau to back off for fear of human safety.

    The fines are a result of Bundy grazing his 900 cattle on 600,000 acres of bureau-managed public lands since 1993 without a permit. He’s ignored his fees, fines, permits and multiple court orders.

    Plenty of other ranchers pay their grazing fees; in fact, the Bureau of Land Management issues 18,000 permits for grazing on 160 million acres of public lands. The U.S. Forest Service allows grazing on an additional 81 million acres of public lands.

    Bureau of Land Management Director Neil Kornze was right when he said, “Mr. Bundy owes the American taxpayers in excess of $1 million.” Public lands belong to the American public. Regardless of his convoluted read of the Nevada Constitution, Bundy owes all of us that tidy sum. And he should us owe much, much more.

    Obama should mobilize the Nevada National Guard and order them to capture Bundy and anyone dumb enough to oppose them. Should any member of the Nevada NG refuse to comply, Obama should relieve them of duty and arrest them using federal troops. He should also order the IRS to audit Bundy's federal tax returns for the last 20 years (because we know he's a tax cheat). The President is not only perfectly within his rights to do these things, but obligated to do so.

  • Reply to

    Gov Perry

    by b767cpt1 Apr 26, 2014 12:16 PM
    carsonogenik carsonogenik Apr 26, 2014 3:20 PM Flag

    Even funnier: the 160 acre ranch he calls his property was purchased by his parents in 1948, and the title is held by family trusts, not Bundy personally.

    All available documentation says that the Bundy family didn’t begin to graze cattle on public land until 1954. Bundy’s vague claim that he is entitled to use the land because his family has been using it going way back is a heap of cow pies.

  • carsonogenik carsonogenik Apr 26, 2014 3:08 PM Flag

    Wingnut complaining that since Bush and the Republicans destroyed the US economy and Republicans have been blocking every single attempt at recovery, Obama hasn't cleaned up their mess fast enough.

  • carsonogenik carsonogenik Apr 26, 2014 3:03 PM Flag

    Today Reagan couldn't win a Republican seat in a state legislature, never mind the Presidency.

    "Wow. Too bad Clive didn't shoot Reagan back in 1986. We'd all be better off."
    Nah. We'd just have two more years of Pappy Bush to laugh at.

  • Reply to

    Gov Perry

    by b767cpt1 Apr 26, 2014 12:16 PM
    carsonogenik carsonogenik Apr 26, 2014 2:57 PM Flag

    Actually Bundy said that he doesn't recognize the legitimacy of the federal government. Funny that he keeps appearing next to the stars and stripes, tho; wouldn't ol Dixie be more appropriate?

  • Reply to

    Gov Perry

    by b767cpt1 Apr 26, 2014 12:16 PM
    carsonogenik carsonogenik Apr 26, 2014 2:55 PM Flag

    "I don't condone those racial statements that Bundy made"

    They aren't racial statements; they're RACIST statements. Learn the difference.

    "(he's beginning to sound like some dumb hick cowboy trying to fight a losing battle in something he believes in)"

    He's always sounded like a dumb hick cowboy, because that's what he is....in addition to being a leech. As for "fighting for something he believes in," give me a break, Hannity clone.

    "but I'm beginning to form my own views on what's going on there as more comes out on Reid's dealings."

    Republicans are incapable of forming their own views; everything they think has been spood fed them by decades of talk radio and Faux News to the point where they have simply internalized wingnut talking points and their "personal views" are indistinguishable from those of their tribal leaders.

  • Reply to

    Bedwetter is on a senile rampage

    by andimsupposedtobelazy Apr 24, 2014 7:29 PM
    carsonogenik carsonogenik Apr 24, 2014 9:00 PM Flag

    "Do you want your IP address on this message board?"

    Speaking for myself: yes please! I'll even provide a hint: 172.xxx.yyy.zzz.

    It was actually semi-possible for an intelligent someone to hack a Yahoo user IP addy using crack warez 10-20 years ago. Utterly impossible now.

    Bring it, stupid old white man. PLEASE.

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