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cchen9830 73 posts  |  Last Activity: Apr 17, 2014 6:49 PM Member since: Mar 8, 2012
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  • cchen9830 cchen9830 Apr 17, 2014 6:49 PM Flag

    THE JONAS EFFECT IS NOW IN AFFECT SINCE MONDAY!! You see, when Joinass shows up, the PPS goes up! Joinass is a lucky charm!

  • cchen9830 cchen9830 Apr 15, 2014 10:05 AM Flag

    Nobody here cares about what, who, what species you are. You are a stupid twit that's all.
    The only important thing is that now you are here and that means the PPS will go UP!

  • cchen9830 cchen9830 Apr 15, 2014 9:08 AM Flag

    While Joinass bashed, the PPS basically doubled. So the twit is back again now. .

  • cchen9830 cchen9830 Apr 15, 2014 8:57 AM Flag

    If you go back more than 6 months or so, Jonas suddenly appeared and the price was around 1.25 or so. He kept saying the price would go to zero, and he posted about 50 posts a day bashing everyone. Well the PPS steadily went up to the $2 area while he was bashing bashing and bashing. Then suddenly, poof he disappears because the PPS went up. Now it has been quite awhile since he was active on this MB, and he reappeared because the PPS dropped. He was nothing but good luck to the PPS while he bashed away!
    So I think his appearance is significant in the grand scheme of things, and that signals an upward movement again.

  • Whenever Joinass appears, the stock price goes up! This is good news to see the twit again.

  • Reply to

    We have Klaus, you have Garp

    by on_pphire Apr 11, 2014 6:19 PM
    cchen9830 cchen9830 Apr 11, 2014 7:49 PM Flag

    Excuse me I have to Garp

  • Reply to

    We have Klaus, you have Garp

    by on_pphire Apr 11, 2014 6:19 PM
    cchen9830 cchen9830 Apr 11, 2014 7:22 PM Flag

    Yea it smells like a GARP too

  • Reply to

    We have Klaus, you have Garp

    by on_pphire Apr 11, 2014 6:19 PM
    cchen9830 cchen9830 Apr 11, 2014 6:46 PM Flag

    GARP sounds like doing GAS and a BURP at the same time.

  • News just out! THIS IS MAJOR NEWS!

  • cchen9830 cchen9830 Apr 11, 2014 6:12 PM Flag

    This is such major good news....thanks!

  • cchen9830 cchen9830 Apr 11, 2014 5:29 PM Flag

    Time is 5:29PM EST

  • cchen9830 cchen9830 Apr 11, 2014 4:31 PM Flag

    Yes but there is actual deal/contract news coming out.

  • cchen9830 cchen9830 Apr 11, 2014 4:20 PM Flag

    Now the stock is trading at 2.36 in after hours. May be the news is coming out tonight!!

    Fridays are always the most active days for FCEL news!!! GO GO GO

  • Article just out: FuelCell Posts Late Pop to High of $2.39, but Retreats Quickly - Some Reports Suggest New Order/Contract May be Driving Spike

  • cchen9830 cchen9830 Mar 30, 2014 8:13 PM Flag

    Focusing solely on LCOE as a metric fails to recognize the potential for radically lower costs through completely rethinking where electricity is generated and how it is distributed across the system. By designing a system that is nearly twice as efficient (uses half the energy) as the traditional model for delivering electricity to a server, we can obviously pay more for electricity coming out of the fuel cell and still have a lower total cost. And that is just the energy cost savings. Once we add in the cost savings from the avoided infrastructure (the outlets, meters, power lines, power plants), we have a design that is more elegant, requires less energy and has the potential to be significantly less expensive than traditional datacenter designs.

    The final point I want to make is the potential this concept holds for the energy world outside of datacenters. After all if we can make a low cost, superefficient, mini power plant work in a server rack, there is no reason it cannot be used in the home. Imagine a small box roughly the size of a beer cooler in the garage providing heat to your home and electricity to your home and back to the grid. Utilizing the waste heat would increase the fuel cell overall energy efficiency to over 80%. Now imagine the impact an entire city fitted with small power plants in not only efficiency but in conjunction with other renewable generation sources such as wind and solar. When the grid losses capacity, say when the wind dies or a cloud blocks a solar array, each fuel cell could be instantly and remotely turned up to supply more power on to the grid and make up for the sudden deficit.

    We believe the advancement being made in fuel cell lab will someday change the game in terms of how energy is delivered and managed.

    You can read more about fuel cell-powered computing on our Microsoft Data Centers Blog or over on the Microsoft Green Blog.

  • cchen9830 cchen9830 Mar 30, 2014 8:12 PM Flag

    So why not just use batteries? After all it's the same principal, electricity derived from chemical potential.A battery's fuel and energy conversion system are locked together in a closed system. When the battery fuel, or electrolyte, (lead acid, lithium ion etc.) is depleted, you need to reverse the electrical flow and refresh the liquid. This is what we know as charging the battery.

    When the battery acid is depleted, why can't you simply replace the acid rather than charging the battery? Oh and let's use a readily available electrolyte such as natural gas!What you have just described is a fuel cell. A battery but with electrical conversion system disaggregated from the fuel.

    But aren't fuel cells much more expensive than conventional generation technology? On a pure levelized cost of energy (LCOE) basis, an off-the-shelf fuel cell system will not be cost competitive with conventional generation. In other words, the cost of electrons coming out of the conventional power plant will be less expensive than the cost of electrons coming out of a fuel cell. However, we don't pay for electrons coming out of a power plant; we pay for electrons coming out of our outlets. We pay to install and maintain all of the electrical wiring in our houses. We pay the utility for our meter (and someone to read the meter), the power lines running through our neighborhoods (and someone to maintain those lines), the transmission lines running to the power plants and the cost to build and operate the power plants.


  • cchen9830 cchen9830 Mar 30, 2014 8:07 PM Flag

    Since servers a) run internally on DC voltage anyway, and b) already have sophisticated voltage regulating circuits internally, we saw an opportunity. Using an off-the-shelf fuel cell system, we cutout the power regulation circuits and bypassed the AC-DC rectifier circuits in the server and powered each server directly off the fuel cell stack. Then we subjected the system to transients; powering up and down servers, etc. Nothing broke. Not only that, the electrical efficiency, from fuel cell stack to server, improved by a full third from 39.8% to 53.3%! This is improving an already very efficient system by eliminating parasitic loads and eliminating many points of failure and cost.

    What would this improvement look like on the national grid? Factoring all the losses from an average US power plant, all the losses in transportation, distribution, transformation, etc., and all the losses within the data center distribution powering servers directly from fuel cell stacks, we expect to effectively double the efficiency, from fuel to load, while cutting out many points of failure

    But aren't large, centralized power plants more efficient than smaller power plants? Generally, that is true. A state-of-the-art combined cycle natural gas plant can achieve electrical efficiencies as high as 60% by capturing the waste heat to generate more electricity. However, combustion engine technology is still limited in efficiency by fundamental thermodynamics. Fuel cell efficiency, on the other hand, is based on chemical energy, not heat energy. This means we can achieve efficiencies greater than that of the state of art large power plants but in a very small space. In other words, while turbines use the difference in heat to make power, fuel cells use the difference in chemicals to make power. ....continued

  • cchen9830 cchen9830 Mar 30, 2014 6:28 PM Flag

    Note, when you search, this article is the 1st one on the list....Other articles show up, but the 1st article is the important one!

  • I found this February Microsoft update on their Datacenter Site. It provides details on what they found while testing their fuel cell powered datacenter. This is a must read, and it clearly explains why fuel cells are the way of the future! To find the article, search on ''Achievement Unlocked – Fuel Cell-Powered Computing'

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