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cde_biscuit 85 posts  |  Last Activity: 7 hours ago Member since: Sep 9, 2003
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    iPhone 7: OLED vs LCD

    by panlurker002 Mar 27, 2015 9:07 PM
    cde_biscuit cde_biscuit 7 hours ago Flag

    Samsung and LG (team Korea) have teamed up to make their smartphones get the top-of-the-line OLED screens with all the bells and whistles and Apple gets the outdated OLED screens, just like when the US sells jet fighters to other countries (maybe Korea even) they may call it the same name but it is an inferior jet fighter to ensure the US always retains the advantage.

  • cde_biscuit cde_biscuit 8 hours ago Flag

    Shorts have been dead wrong about OLED and it is OLED longs duty and obligation to make them pay dearly rather than let them off the hook for a few measly digital dollar profit. After all shorts would have shown no mercy and driven OLED to zero in a heartbeat if they were right. If the shorts can conjure OLED shares out of thin air and sell them naked short then certainly they can conjure dollars out of thin air to buy those shorts back. Don't play their game and sell them your hard earned OLED shares for thin air!!! I have plenty of OLED shares and I don't sell my OLED shares in the hopes maybe that extra penny I add to the OLED price per share at the end of the day will prompt a short manipulator to jump out of a window. NO MERCY!!!

  • cde_biscuit cde_biscuit Mar 29, 2015 4:32 PM Flag

    I see now that "Samsung reentering the OLED TV market" news was filtering out in Asia on March 25 (Wednesday) but few seemed to know it because of e translation barrier.

    It was just a coincidence the manipulators ran the stops on Thursday morning?

    Lets be honest, Wall Street hates you if you own OLED shares, and they will do anything to steal your shares from you.

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    Samsung resume Oled TV production

    by panl2b2 Mar 29, 2015 8:29 AM
    cde_biscuit cde_biscuit Mar 29, 2015 2:49 PM Flag

    10 dollars was quickly shaved off the OLED stock price when news came out Samsung stopped maken OLED TVs mid April 2014. The share price is very sensitive to TV news.

  • It takes a special investor to stay long and strong during a 10% manipulator takedown for no good reason. Congratulations OLED retail noob longs you've shown you have what it takes to become an elite OLED investor like many of the longterm OLED heroes on this board. Once again, congratulations!

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    Short Interest at 7,834,297

    by fusionary1 Mar 24, 2015 4:14 PM
    cde_biscuit cde_biscuit Mar 24, 2015 4:25 PM Flag

    Since very few shorts have covered, clearly they have no direct economic interest in OLED. One can only concude that the shorts primary motive is controlling the price. The SEC needs to order long/short hedge funds to halve their manipulative holdings in OLED. This would not affect the price if shorts were covered with longs, and would increase liquidity and make for more orderly tradng.

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    What is the driving force behind OLED?

    by easy2u_41 Mar 23, 2015 6:15 PM
    cde_biscuit cde_biscuit Mar 24, 2015 8:22 AM Flag

    NO ONE wanted to invest in OLED with 2017 patent cliff lie that the shorts kept pumping. When the patent cliff lie was officially debunked SUDDENLY EVERYONE wanted in, but there were hardly any shares available because the short/long stock manipulators and thdeir price control scheme tied up 8+ million shares of the already small float of 32 million or so. The long/short manipulators are still haven't changed their short position much despite the doubling of the stock price in two months, further proof that the shorts were being used for price manipulation. SEC please investigate the shorts in this stock, I would think the SEC wants fair and open trading of stocks, unfair manipulation and disorderly trading breeds contempt and mistrust of the overall stock market.

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    some long term thoughts

    by carne8ielaker Mar 19, 2015 10:08 AM
    cde_biscuit cde_biscuit Mar 19, 2015 10:44 AM Flag

    I'm convinced the way Wall Street really works is that the early investors take on all the risk, and are rarely but occassionally rewarded with a ten bagger. At which point some sort of financing takes place (to produce the product) and all the early investors are forced (manipulated) to the exits as the next stage to a profitable company takes money and a few years. This is when the manipulators work their magic and Wall Street bankers replace the early investors. Bankers avoid the early high risk of investing and get to reap the massive rewards of the next lower risk increase in the share price. Just look at who holds OLED now compared to who held it 5 years ago. Its mostly institutions now. Where did all the retail go? Mostly gone.

    You know that old yarn, "Bulls make money, bears make money, but pigs get slaughtered"? The "pigs get slaughted" are about retail investors, the early, too smart for their own good, investors who get greedy and want more than the ten bagger that Wall Dtreet allows them.

    If one survives the retail slaughter phase, one shouldn't expect the same slaughter to happen again. Not to say a different type of slaughter couldn't happen. Maybe its a human pscological failing that people are so strongly affected by the latest bad thing that happened to them (examples, the Great Depression, the 2008 market and housing crash) that they assme it will happen again. It usually doesn't.

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    If I sell, Fidelity MUST buy

    by cde_biscuit Mar 18, 2015 9:42 AM
    cde_biscuit cde_biscuit Mar 18, 2015 9:59 AM Flag

    They still have a share lending business. The shorts are getting lent shares from somewhere. Do I know for certain mine are lend out, nope, I dont know this and I never will. I suppose it would be easier to put in an infinite $200 sell order but quite honestly I dont trust bankers to follow their own rules.

  • Fidelity probably lent my shares out to short sellers. But my account still shows I own those shares. If I sell, Fidelity MUST cover those shares and deliver them. Fidelity is truly "short" the stock, not necessarily the short sellers who may be mostly hedged.

    I'm kinda thinking of selling my Fidelity OLED shares and buying same the amount in another account at the same time just to screw with Fidelity. The deserve pain for lending shares to criminal manipulators.

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    by chunkychun Mar 17, 2015 1:34 PM
    cde_biscuit cde_biscuit Mar 17, 2015 1:46 PM Flag

    FYI so no one clicks on his garbage site, his website was 100% anti-OLED for a couple years, now he has some useless articles on lumber liquidators and a few 1 year old anti-OLED junk articles below the fold. Looks like he is phasing out of OLED.

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    oled stock split?

    by melonmaroon Mar 14, 2015 12:18 AM
    cde_biscuit cde_biscuit Mar 14, 2015 8:25 AM Flag

    I don't want a stock split, with so many shares short and the low float I'd prefer to keep the shares scarce and hard for shorts to find. No need to split the stock for us long term OLED investors, more shares benefit traders and shorts, and OLED is an investment not a day trade. Let not make more shares by splitting the stock or, worst of all, dilute the shares doing a cash for shares deal with Goldman (hello another around of massive share manipulation) or Fidelity (don't bail them out of their losing short loans).

  • I'm not a high paid Ivy League genius like you guys but lending out millions of OLED shares to shorts doesn't seem like such a good business plan these days and I would suggest considering getting out of the OLED share lending business.

  • If 8.2 million shares are short and we assume they are hedged with an equal amount of longs (because of themanipulation scheme) aren't those longs effectively "locked" to the shorts and not really available for trade? So the effective share float is not 33.6 million but is only around 25 million shares. Isnt that a pretty small number of shares available for a stock like this?

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    CNBC -- Start the iPhone 7 chant now!

    by ptbot Mar 12, 2015 12:17 AM
    cde_biscuit cde_biscuit Mar 12, 2015 9:49 AM Flag

    Its stunning that the undisputed display leader is NOW being described as a dark horse, it just shows how successful the stock price manipulation industry has been keeping OLED under control. Congratulations OLED price manipulators you really outdid yourself.

  • Removing a watch band 5 times a day would be a massive pain.

  • cde_biscuit cde_biscuit Mar 9, 2015 5:07 PM Flag

    But Tim Cook just said OLED display was "awful" how do you get from awful to "beautiful, Gorgeous and Brlliant".

  • Someone needs to ask Tim why he decided to put an awful OLED display into the iwatch, and if it isnt awful anymore then why isnt it in the iphone?

    Or maybe he was just lying when he said that oled displays are awful (most likely).

  • Lets not forget OLED is still under manipulation, Apple not mentioing OLED wll just be par-for-the-course dirty play, I expect more dirty play, dirtier dirty play, there are people whose lives are devoted to coming up with dirty play ideas, there has always been dirty play thats why I expect more dirty play.

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    Thank you for everything Omex

    by wulli888 Mar 7, 2015 2:53 AM
    cde_biscuit cde_biscuit Mar 8, 2015 7:39 PM Flag

    Congrats for finally coming to the conclusion that OMEX has zero value for an investor. Omex does have value for management, insiders, lawyers, governments, bankers and some stock traders, but for investors ... zero value. Everyone gets paid before the investor. The stock price is slowly reflecting this. OMEX is toast and this is a good thing.

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