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chnook1 21 posts  |  Last Activity: 5 hours ago Member since: Jun 29, 2009
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  • Not real sure about the double down- might still be some down side but pick some on the dips. 8% down on what could be perceived as a killer dilution isn't all that bad. Some one is buying besides myself.

  • What happens to stock price if a company only allows a limited number of shares to be traded and retains the majority? Its my contention that Hanwah will let things settle and from time to time make more shares available when they need to expand. You will also be given warning prior to this happening. These people aren't stupid as they wouldn't make available billions of shares when the price is a buck. I picked up more today and I'm averaging down. I know on the surface this seems really bizarre. Hsol has always been a gamble and I've treated it that way. It looks to me if they lining everything up to become one big powerhouse. From poly to power grid on a grand scale. Heck Hanwah even has financing to offer a customer. Hanwah is executing a plan it had from day 1. Thats all this is. So please sell I need more shares at a lower price.

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    Picked up some at 1.40

    by chnook1 Dec 16, 2014 11:09 PM
    chnook1 chnook1 Dec 16, 2014 11:17 PM Flag

    I hate giving advice but at this level the percentage of return vs the loss is starting to look good.

  • Picked up another batch at 1.27. Not all in yet. Scary this thing could turn and spin. Not sure how low Hanwah is going to drop it but I'll be all in before 1.50. You morons should know all fortune 5 companies have a stock division. You can get caught holding your pee pee.

  • Name another company putting out 3.5 gigs that is.

  • They have info far beyond your scope. Hanwah Chem sunk a billion into a poly plant. That wasn't to supply Trina Canadian Ygnli ect ect. When Hanwah bought Hsol and the big Q they had every intention of a merger if it was possible. The free trade deal made it possible. As a good business practice they will keep the 6% on the table run the stock up and offer new shares from time to time for expansion. Hanwah intends to become a serious player in this sector. If their is an offer for the company they want to keep the share price within reason. Not a billion shares at .20 cents. 20 bucks is not unreasonable. If they don't play games 50 for the 6%.

  • HSOL at 1.38. My target was 2 for a full buy in. Now your able to get stock in a 3.5 gig company owned by a fortune 5 company at under a buck fifty. I added today and if it drops I'll purchase more. I've been working this stock for years and I'm not afraid to say I shorted on numerous occasions. This is not one. I doubt Hanwah even cares at 100 and 40 mil. They spent a cool billion on a state of the art poly plant. And where is all that poly going? This was a plan from the beginning. GL

  • By doing it this way they also took controlling interest in HSOL from China and put it in SO Korea. Because of the new trade bill, HSOL is now a SO Korean company manufacturing in China, So Korea, Malaysia, Germany and it won't surprise me if they put a plant in the US. As for the over valuation (which it is ) they just issued themselves stock. The only way this hurts an investor is if they started to dump those shares on the market. If and when they do you will have fair warning to get out for a time. Their are a multitude of other good reasons for the H and Q merger but I'm getting bored.
    HSOL should have been in the toilet with all the other solars today but their must be some others who see this as a plus. HSOL has come a long way from a bankrupt Solarfun. The next step will be to increase stock price so they can bleed off some shares, but, I don't see that happening at this price point. GL

  • WED or Thurs we will see how the market takes this news.

  • Todays market doesn't reflect this day but it will. This was a day a fortune 5 company started to take control of a sector.

  • BUT BUT their is an anti trust provision in the new So Korea China trade deal. Did Hanwah write this trade bill?

  • manufacturing in China.

  • splitting up its solar division,finally taking a majority share in HSOL and getting a leg up on other China solars in the US. I'd say this is great news.

  • I don't see any trash out their about dumping shares. Hanwah has become 1 serious player. They can now take on massive projects without involving anyone else. Any where in the world.

  • chnook1 chnook1 Dec 8, 2014 8:51 PM Flag

    This is nothing more than a paper shuffle. They didn't pay anyone anything. The changes in trade between SO Korea and China made it more favorable to bring everything under 1 roof. They just took Q-Cells public and didn't split their solar divisions. By having 94% of the company being held by the parent it gives better control of stock price. Hanwah from time to time might put more shares on the market to generate cash flow for projects but at a buck fifty I don't think its likely. You'll also get a warning so you can pull out wait then come back in. With the right PR this stock could surpass Canadian in price--- in a flash.

  • So Korea has a trade deal with the US and newly with China. Q-Cells Malaysia isn't under a US tariff nor German manufacturing. Manufacturing in SO Korea and distributed to China will be under the new free trade. Japan also has a trade deal with SO Korea. Hanwah chemical also has a new billion dollar state of the art poly plant. Shipping to Hsol China comes at little or no cost. I think Hanwah's next big move will be to purchase land in the Southwest to put in a manufacturing plant. How hard is it to ship poly from Korea to the the US under our trade agreement? Not very. Hanwah is a fortune 500 company that connects dots. They don't make anything their subs do. This puts to rest 3 rumors. 1 their going bankrupt, 2 the Q-cell merger and 3 the controlling interest. HSH won't dump their controlling shares on the market unless they want a 001 price point per share. And if and when they do you'll have a warning.
    The new 40% conversion should come on fairly quickly as it doesn't require a manufacturing retool. 40% puts it a some of the cheapest coal fired plants. At a buck fifty this is a bargain and I've started my buy back. We'll see but I should be all in before it reaches 2. As an addendum With this capacity I think you'll see a greater move into solar farms and the profit that brings. GL

  • A big if- you'll be holding shares in a solar company making 3.5 gigs for a1.50. Oil isn't going to stay at this price point and the Aussie's just made a panel thats 40% efficient. Looks like the ducks are getting in a row.

  • These people think in terms of 10, 20, 50 or 100 years. If you haven;t kept up with the times China is starting to put in the Nicaragua canal this month. Thats a game changer.

    A new free trade agreement may give companies from South Korea a serious leg up—in China.

    The trade deal, signed last week by China's Xi Jinping and Korea's Park Geun-hye, may not only eliminate tariffs on 90 percent of goods traded between the two countries, it could also provide South Korean firms with protections that would allow them to receive the same "national treatment" as domestic companies, rather than be regulated as foreign entities.
    China's President Xi Jinping (R) shakes hands with South Korea's President Park Geun-hye during a meeting in Beijing, November 10, 2014.
    Kim Kyung-Hoon | Reuters
    China's President Xi Jinping (R) shakes hands with South Korea's President Park Geun-hye during a meeting in Beijing, November 10, 2014.

    The terms of the deal are still pending approvals in both countries. But they could include a provision for due process and appeals during "antitrust probes," which the Chinese government is bringing with increasing frequency against foreign firms operating in China.

    South Korea would be the first nation to gain such rights in China. Given the surge of probes, especially among American, European and Japanese firms, being considered a "local" firm could mark a big advantage for South Korean companies.

    The provision is made more likely, experts say, by the fact that it wouldn't be South Korea's first time scoring antitrust provisions through a free trade agreement. The 2007 pact between the United States and South Korea—dubbed KORUS—held the world's first "robust procedural protections" for antitrust matters, according to Tad Lipsky, partner at international law firm Latham and Watkins and former chief antitrust lawyer for Coca-Cola.

  • A new free trade agreement may give companies from South Korea a serious leg up—in China.

    The trade deal, signed last week by China's Xi Jinping and Korea's Park Geun-hye, may not only eliminate tariffs on 90 percent of goods traded between the two countries, it could also provide South Korean firms with protections that would allow them to receive the same "national treatment" as domestic companies, rather than be regulated as foreign entities.
    China's President Xi Jinping (R) shakes hands with South Korea's President Park Geun-hye during a meeting in Beijing, November 10, 2014.
    Kim Kyung-Hoon | Reuters
    China's President Xi Jinping (R) shakes hands with South Korea's President Park Geun-hye during a meeting in Beijing, November 10, 2014.

    The terms of the deal are still pending approvals in both countries. But they could include a provision for due process and appeals during "antitrust probes," which the Chinese government is bringing with increasing frequency against foreign firms operating in China.

    South Korea would be the first nation to gain such rights in China. Given the surge of probes, especially among American, European and Japanese firms, being considered a "local" firm could mark a big advantage for South Korean companies.

    The provision is made more likely, experts say, by the fact that it wouldn't be South Korea's first time scoring antitrust provisions through a free trade agreement. The 2007 pact between the United States and South Korea—dubbed KORUS—held the world's first "robust procedural protections" for antitrust matters, according to Tad Lipsky, partner at international law firm Latham and Watkins and former chief antitrust lawyer for Coca-Cola.

  • You can only speculate on why its to the up side. The fact still remains it is to the upside on a day it should be in the toilet. Someone is buying..Seems to me their were buyers waiting for a bad earnings report to jump in. The only sure facts are their were 800,000 shares traded on a bad earnings report and it went up 3 1/4 percent. Any trader worth his salt wouldn't hold Hsol during earnings as its to great of a risk given past history.
    Something or someone is propping this up for whatever reason. I'm not interested in listening to half baked theories as the only fact being this stock should be down today in a big way and its not. Time will tell.

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