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chrxind 75 posts  |  Last Activity: Aug 10, 2015 8:52 PM Member since: Jul 27, 2001
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    Poor leadership to say the least.

    by scjohnson4047 Aug 7, 2015 3:01 PM
    chrxind chrxind Aug 10, 2015 8:52 PM Flag


    Noted in other post that I see nothing on the horizon at this time that suggests a rebound in pricing power, perhaps T. Row sees the same. According to management its up to takeaway for the most part at this point. Some of that has gone into effect, to RRC specifically via Uniontown, on the opposite, Mariner East 1 has a month or so delay. However based on the quietness in the field, intuition tells me that Mr. Ventura's production response could be a blindsided event for those shorting or those assuming supply and demand will remain unbalanced for a prolong period.

    My hope soon is we at least stabilize. Anyone with half a brain should understand what the hell they are investing in and the intrinsic value the company assumes. You and theyo have been longtime supporters among others, be careful 4-6 months perhaps longer, but in the long run,1.5 - 3 yrs, believe we'll do ok. Patients rules for now, but don't assume unnecessary risk finding a bottom or even holding on for that matter.

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    Questions For The MWE Long Term Owners

    by buyandwin Jul 23, 2015 10:40 PM
    chrxind chrxind Aug 8, 2015 11:48 PM Flag

    Recall him saying that, but also he noted 2017 and on being even colder like late 1950s. Funny thing I saw the other day, a lot of wind mills shut down, southern Pa northern MD. I never saw that before. I unerstand a couple for maint., but these were all down. Was wondering if they were shut in for some time.

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    Questions For The MWE Long Term Owners

    by buyandwin Jul 23, 2015 10:40 PM
    chrxind chrxind Aug 7, 2015 4:21 PM Flag

    Credit Suisse just downgraded to hold [the market interpretation of hold is sell], Also interesting on analyst call they actually joked about propane in eastern Canada trading at -50 cent or so.

    Without any nothing on the horizon to have any material impact on prices, as I believe winter will be average to perhaps warmer, I think MWE will fall further into upper 40's. The merger is approaching an irrelevant state as both MPLX and MWE tumble, I think they will continue to do so.

    Even after this collapse, I still have a decent gain, but just about had enough watching it precipitously become less and less.

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    RRC and SWN

    by aas62 Aug 5, 2015 7:44 AM
    chrxind chrxind Aug 5, 2015 8:00 AM Flag

    One has to ask, why should RRC merge with anyone when they have other options as opposed to taking on another companies problems? However it is possible RRC sells off part or all of Mid-continent assets. Recall the CFO's comment at recent Q-2 conference call:

    "Lower prices and the front-end loaded nature of our capital budget in 2015 pushed our leverage a bit higher in the second quarter with second quarter trailing 12-month debt-to-EBITDAX ratio coming in at 3.3 times. I should mention that this leverage ratio is charted territory for Range, as we have been over 3 times on several occasions over the years. Even though we no longer have a debt-to-EBITDAX loan covenant and our next annual borrowing base determination isn't until May of next year, our stance on leverage has not changed. When leverage exceeds 3 times, we will begin working on ways to bring it down. It would be premature to discuss the specific things we are working on right now, but as Range has sold over $3 billion in assets over the past 10 years, this is the first option we consider to reduce leverage."

    I would not be surprised a partial or total sale of those assets.

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    Any chance of a buyout?

    by moakeybear Aug 3, 2015 3:00 PM
    chrxind chrxind Aug 5, 2015 7:51 AM Flag

    I would suspect EXP or Unimin as potential acquirers.

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    Questions For The MWE Long Term Owners

    by buyandwin Jul 23, 2015 10:40 PM
    chrxind chrxind Aug 4, 2015 11:37 PM Flag

    My figuring as note before, is the projected distribution growth projections could not be realized, perhaps even putting the current distribution at risk as operating cash flows deteriorate, for one due to wet gas drilling is getting much less attention versus dry gas. My premises is confirmed as noted by RRC recent presentation and conference call. To the point, increase volumes could not make up the difference as E&P increasingly moves to better dry gas economics. Ohio Utica rig counts down 66% and Marcellus down 55%, and further reductions likely will provide some supply relief, but that will be likely 2 - 3 years out as SXL struggles with ME-2, and ATEX is still under restriction to date without any recent news. To boot, RRC signs a 250 million dollar dry gas takeaway and compression with EQM. Semple noted I recall last year about doing some dry gas projects. Not doing so perhaps added fuel to diminishing returns of wet processing/fractionation only during this distressed timeframe.

    Anyway, I sold half my position in January, I intend to hold the remaining units and go through with the MPLX merger. It will be interesting to see what projects the combined businesses will come up with in the future as supply and demand come in line. Though the initial multi-year loss in yield and loss of MWE being standalone, I think we will still have good future rates of return as a combined business. Crossing my fingers kid brother RRC does not have the same fate though. I’ll post [Yahoo or IV Board] on the MPLX/MWE business as applicable as this board fades with the sunset.

    Best wishes to all that go through with the merger or decide to move on.

  • Reply to

    Merrill Lynch Recommendation

    by theyogue2 Aug 3, 2015 12:01 PM
    chrxind chrxind Aug 4, 2015 11:26 AM Flag


    Based on operating cash flows/cash from operations, my analysis suggests a target price for this year is about 43 - 47, downside from here at or about 29. The pipeline infrastructure projects are just too far out to make any material difference this year and likely minimal if any material impact into 2016.

    If your time frame is 3+ years, I would hold the stock, perhaps accumulate south of 35. I'll hold my core position for now. Sold my trading position several months ago.

  • chrxind chrxind Jul 29, 2015 9:26 AM Flag

    As I noted in past posts, pipeline takeaway is key. This gives investors time to build a position into the stock. We should be thankful that we are not in the position CNX is in for example.

    Patients rules for now. My buy sentiment assumes accumulate.

    Sentiment: Buy

  • chrxind chrxind Jul 28, 2015 8:14 AM Flag

    My intuition is telling me the same. Feeling RRC way ahead of most regarding hedging and the replacement of debt to EBITAX with interest back in Q-4 2014. 29 banks approved this using forward one year cash flow, thus the 3 billion approved for borrowing. The opposite approach one can see the results of CNX. RRC has proved that they can continue to build, yet at reduced costs.

    On the Sabic side, I believe they are not looking at an E&P, but on the petrochemical side as NGL feedstocks should be low priced. They noted this last year about building or buying businesses in the Appalachia region.

    We'll see the results after the close, and conference call tomorrow.

  • chrxind chrxind Jul 25, 2015 11:18 AM Flag

    That's going to be a hard nut to crack. Typically buyouts are 30-35 % premium. For me that would fall far short of what RRC is worth in the longer term.

    We can be thankful though that RRC did not get itself in the position that CNX did.

  • chrxind chrxind Jul 25, 2015 11:12 AM Flag

    Yea I saw the proppant use for the well; not sure how much of an impact that made. I sold half my HCLP position back in Q-1. May add also, but I'll take a wait and see approach for now. The overall market could push everything lower.

  • chrxind chrxind Jul 24, 2015 4:25 PM Flag

    Though a reasonable chance, I am not putting any bet that RRC gets picked off. COG has done well, but the new EQT well in SW Pa, in addition to RRC's, is a shot into the hull of any NE Pa. or Ohio Utica well to date at least for now initial production flow and pressure assuming ~3,200 Ft lateral.

    Too bad for CNX and how they mismanaged the gas side of the business. Where the Utica appears to be the most promising, and where they hold/own tons of acreage in Greene/Washington/Wva. west and south, they opted to focus on wet gas which isn't the most economical. I suppose NBL JV partner could pick up the dry side of the business, but EQT would be an excellent buyer assuming their all about the same area as CNX.

  • This time, EQT just south of RRC's Washington Co. Utica well.

    July 23 2015:

    The well, located in Greene County, PA, underwent a 24-hour deliverability test to sales on Wednesday night. What happened, President of Exploration and Production Steven Schlotterbeck said, "far exceeded our expectations." The well averaged 72.9 MMcf/d with an average flowing casing pressure of 8,641 psi. That equates to a 24-hour initial production (IP) rate, per 1,000 feet of lateral, of 22.6 MMcf/d.

    "To the best of our knowledge, this is the highest reported IP of any Utica well to date," Schlotterbeck said.

    The next publicly announced Utica well that even comes close was Range Resources Corp.'s in nearby Washington County, PA, which had an average 24-hour peak production rate of 59 MMcf/d in December.

    In relation, $250 million for the construction of 32 miles of pipeline and installation of approximately 32,000 horsepower of compression. The natural gas header pipeline will support Range Resources’ dry Marcellus and Utica development in southwestern Pennsylvania.

  • Reply to

    Well I im in deep water here

    by jackal22422 Jul 10, 2015 5:47 PM
    chrxind chrxind Jul 20, 2015 10:53 PM Flag

    Has been known to short, supposedly aligned with Soros.

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    by kens_sys Jul 17, 2015 4:00 PM
    chrxind chrxind Jul 20, 2015 10:50 PM Flag

    Understand that, owned CNX for years, bought into NBL after the JVs. Sold both last year due to lack of CNX performance. Ramifications of NBL's Mediterranean assets just ticked me off. It is reasonable to assume a NBL CNX merger or buyout is likely, for one, they have been in JV for years. Should there be issues between the two and NBL backs out, then yes CNX is toast, as they really could not effectively control both the wet and dry gas assets.

  • Reply to

    Reason why MWE is better to have than MPLX

    by cash_is_king_now Jul 14, 2015 8:48 PM
    chrxind chrxind Jul 19, 2015 11:31 AM Flag

    Real easy, the majority shareholders suggest a turn down of the vote and negotiate a better offer or seek a all cash deal. In the first place I don't like stock swaps, cash is king! Assuming all cash, one bids 75 per unit. Include the 4.2 billion in debt and the break up penalty and your at about 20 billion, about the same value as the current deal.

    I rarely make an investment based on tax issues, and I don't fall in love with a company or investment; it's performance. Something goes to taxes regardless. MWE management has done well on build-out, but I can assure you they are not concerned about you tax implications. What's an issue in the 4.2 billion in debt, accumulated to drive volume in an increasing falling commodity price environment. I believe it came back to haunt MWE as they could not make the projected 10% distribution CARG. Should they have to confess that wrong, an even worse, cut the distro., the unit price would tank.

  • Reply to

    MJIC Index

    by chrxind Jul 18, 2015 10:25 AM
    chrxind chrxind Jul 18, 2015 4:58 PM Flag

    Note to all, an Investors Village board has been create "Cannabis Economy". An MCIG board is in place, but a new one was create for general industry news, events, and investment discussions. Hope folks come over to for one, to escape the foolish and rhetoric postings [that will not be tolerated on a paid board] to discuss and share ideas about where the business is headed as well as individual companies prospects.

  • chrxind chrxind Jul 18, 2015 4:48 PM Flag

    You realize that for one, this commercial was an awareness pump for MSRT. O'Leary rarely passes on a online program and has noted the the cannabis business has huge profit margins; ambiguity and lack of clarity in the state and federal law is the current problem. Should note this video came out just after MSRT reported that users has surpassed 375k users and over 110 million interactions. The number of users in the video is 250K at that time.

    Second, as an investor, O'Leary would assume the role and accountability as an "active investor" not a passive one as are shareholders. That's a big difference and thus his concern over the legal aspects is warranted.

  • Reply to

    Reason why MWE is better to have than MPLX

    by cash_is_king_now Jul 14, 2015 8:48 PM
    chrxind chrxind Jul 18, 2015 4:36 PM Flag

    Early January, I began a re-organization of my portfolio. That included selling 1/2 position in MWE, 1/4 of SXL, and a couple of E&Ps.

    The remaining half of MWE I will hold through the transition. When I consider the the long-term reward of the largest processor and fractionator in best low cost plays such as the Marcellus and Utica it's irrefutable that MPLX unit holders, via MWE assets, will not benefit over time. I will likely start a new position in MPLX. Yield is one thing, yield and unit appreciation is how the combination should provide rate of return.

    Regarding the transaction, I suppose the "consideration" is nominal, and if enough investor [MWE unit holders] frustration becomes self evident, the consideration of 3.37 could be bumped up. As I understand the agreement, the 3.37 consideration is an attempt to off-set the distribution loss MWE unit holders face with this deal. But it really does not address MWEs 10% distribution CAGR. I would have liked to seen perhaps something at or about $4.75 - 5.00 per unit versus 3.37. That would sweeten the deal to about 1 billion in cash. The "consideration" then perhaps would address the 10% growth rate MWE projected over the next 4 years.

  • chrxind by chrxind Jul 18, 2015 10:25 AM Flag

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