I had a fairly long reply/comment to your post on Intel selling their security unit. When I went to look at it again, it wasn't there. Hmmmm. I wrote it and posted it, now it's gone. ANNOYING!!!. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr......
Anyway - lots to read and comment on with your post here, but I can't right now - maybe later this evening I'll have some time.
Data mining on professionals did not occur to me - good point. On the other hand I would think the info would be limited to the business activities of professionals - no dining preferences, or vacation preferences, or clothing, or cars, etc - general consumer info. On the other hand, combine that professional info with general consumer info from other sources (emails, search, text, etc) then you have a more thorough picture of the individual, and there will be info in LinkedIn that is simply not available from other sources - only from LinkedIn will you get resume/related info, so that's unique and therefore valuable.
Again - you make a very good point -
I had a VERY long post all set, then something happened at it dropped. Not the first time that has happened. I'm not going to try to recreate it - too much to do right now. Anyway - sorry about that. Just a few thoughts on LinkedIn, nothing significant...
So - you're new to the MSFT Board. You will quickly find there are 2-3 posters worth reading - the rest are paid bashers, or right-wing nut jobs (or selling useless "advisory" service). Start using your "Ignore" button - it will take some time, but you'll eventually get to the point where you've narrowed the posters to the very few worth looking at. Sometimes I sign-on to the board and the whole first page are greyed-out posts. Get use to it. So unlike many other board - all have their useless posters, but other posters are often informative/interesting. Not here on the MSFT board - regrettably....
He is giving up on replacing my HD with SSD, for now. It would be nice to have SSD, but not essential. I think I'll wait for SSD prices to come down a bit and then see if Dell will do the exchange, or Best Buy, or maybe by then my local guy will have figured out how to do it. It may well be the fact I have a 1TB HD, trying to replace it with a 500 GB SSD setup - maybe we'll try again when 1TB of SSD prices come down a bit. Again, no rush.
I recall that MSFT is coming out with a new W10 version of a server OS? That could be big - a missing segment in the top to bottom W10 universe. It possible that may open the floodgates for a lot of announcements on security, and the encompassing presence of W10, for those who care about security at all levels of interaction - phone, laptop, then server, and Cloud. Supposed to come out this fall? Same time as HoloLens, for Christmas? I don't think the two are related, but MSFT could see them as the final "I" dot and "T" cross in their system.
I think MSFT is waiting for and Intel mobile chip before they push again on mobile - I think Intel totally botching Broxton was a major blow to MSFT mobile plans. Now who knows when we'll see a push by MSFT in mobile. Not this year, maybe not even 2017, but I hope I'm wrong about that....
As I say on a regular basis, I agree that, as you say, "MSFT really needs to step up and eplain..." in your case, you say explain why W7 is no longer adequate in light of W10 capabilities. I'll expand what MSFT should explain to encompass/include an explanation of the entire W10 ecosystem - why people should get into it, what it will do for them, now and in the future, as people upgrade, as the W10 ecosystem expands. One user interface, all your stuff (music, docs, photos, email, Skype, games, EVERYTHING DIGITAL), available to you any time, any where, securely. No one is saying that, or anything close to that. C'mon MSFT, tell your story!
I hope MSFT has a leg-up in IOT/wireless as a result of good security built-in to W10 and MSFT cloud. I presume wireless signals generated by IOT chips/sensors will be secure? I will guess that's a function of the chip/machine code and the wireless signal and the receiving OS - I don't have a lot of insight into the subject, but the more you string together components, the more opportunity for gaps in security. I would hope MSFT and Intel IOT chips will be, together, pretty bullet-proof, especially when compared to Linux/Android interactions. Again, not a subject I know much about, or have any insights.
The Band exchange is pending. I don't have a MSFT store anywhere near me. It would be nice if the floor space MSFT pays Best Buy would serve as a de facto MSFT store, but it appears they don't work that way - as I've said before, while I think they're better than nothing, they're pretty lame, compared with what they could/should be. I see no reason they couldn't serve as a "7-11" version of a MSFT store, where I could do a Band exchange, or look at phones, etc - a place where all the components of the W10 ecosystem can be demonstrated as a complete, interactive, symbiotic ecosystem. I don't understand why MSFT doesn't value this and use this more.
Actually, maybe I do understand - MSFT is dominated by very smart engineers, and engineers typically don't have a good feel for marketing. MSFT needs to bring in some great marketers and give them leeway to make decisions and invest resources (like upgrading Best Buy floor space that MSFT alreasy pays a lot for).
I have a friend who dipped his foot into home automation using Insteon, which works with Android, iOS, and MSFT. I believe he uses an Android phone. Based on your reminder, I'll recommend to him that home automation is fine for turning lights on/off, flood/water sensor, motion detectors, and a few other things, but no cameras or door locks. I think he'll listen.
MSFT needs to incorporate wireless into IOT language/capabilities. Both Intel and MSFT have not done well with wireless, although it's easier for MSFT to integrate wireless than Intel I don't see where GE has any real presence in IOT, except the industrial, but it seems to me IOT is an add-on to machinery, not an integral device, except in some unique situation such as jet engines. In any event, GE brings nothing unique to the OS of IOT, jet engines or whatever. I can see where GE wants to be deeply involved in IOT, but they should recognize the tail isn't going to wag the dog in IOT. I hope Intel get it right, with MSFT as a partner, insofar as a collaboration is mutually beneficial.
Thanks again - I copied and forwarded that note, too. Maybe he'll find it useful/educational. He's a good guy, and the fact he couldn't get it done I don't hold against him. Disappointed, but not a big deal. We move on....
I appreciate yo taking the time to outline some issues. I'm not a tech guy so I didn't follow much/most of what you said, but I will copy it and send it to my local guy for his consideration. I doubt he'll slap his forehead and say OK, now I can do it!, but maybe he'll learn something useful from what you said, and any day you learn something useful, then it has been a good day.
Thanks again. I may pursue an SSD conversion (with my local guy, who I want to support, or Best Buy, or maybe Dell - we'll see) when SSD prices decline some more, which I expect they will do over the course of the coming year.
By the way - I don't think I mentioned - I never did get the GPS on my Band 2 working, despite two hour++ long sessions with Band tech support, so finally they told me to box it up and send it back for a new one, which I did (they emailed me a shipping label). 7-10 days turnaround. Then I have to set it up again. I'm particularly looking forward to the golf and hiking apps. I like the step recording, heart rate, stair climb features. I don't wear it at night so no sleep info. As I said in a prior post, I particularly enjoy the music control via Bluetooth - U use that about every dat before/during dinner, and look forward to using that again. Annoying that the GPS didn't work and that after 2++ hrs chat tech support could not get it to work, but once that's behind me, full speed ahead with my Band 2.
Also my friend who installed Insteon home system really likes it, and is buying more modules/attachments so he can control more lights/stuff from his phone. Not sure what he has in mind in any detail, but the bottom line is he likes the home automation package. I may get one....maybe for my birthday, or Christmas....that would be cool....
OK, here's what "the guy" told me about the SSD install, and why he stopped -
" I cloned the 1 TB drive to a 500 GB SSD. The reduction from large to small may have caused a problem.
Problem: When putting the cloned drive into the computer, it was not recognized as a bootable device."
Then he face some "UEFI" issues, and referred me to a MSFT website, TechNet dot Microsoft dot com backslash en-us bkslash library bkslsh hh825112 dot aspx.
Dot is obviously a dot, and anything that looks remotely like a backslash is a backslash. The site discusses UEFI.
I was surprised he was stumped, and he's pretty knowledgeable, but I guess he's not totally up to speed on W10.,
Cheap security - you get what you pay for.
Do you know if the HP phone works on all telecom carriers? If company "A" buys HP phones, will Verizon, Tmobile, others, let that company use W10 mobile on their system? I know Verizon has not upgraded Window phones to W10 because they're still "testing" it, but one can presumably download W10 and use it on Verizon.
It seems to me an untenable position for Verizon to not upgrade phones with W10 because they're still 'testing' it, but then let large corporate customers use W10 phones. Or am I missing something?
It was not Best Buy - it was a local guy retired from the tech industry - I forget who he worked for. He teaches a basic/intro course on W10 at the local community college/adult ed, and he says he has replaced many hard drives with SSD, but I guess not on a W10 machine. I have a Dell.
I recall him telling me the issue was some 4 letter acronym function - he looked it up getting around it got into resetting things he was not comfortable resetting, so he just stopped working on it before he screwed up my machine, and I'm glad he did that rather than be a bull in a china shop and mess up my relatively new machine.
I'll email him and ask him to remind me of what he ran into that he didn't know how to handle.
As I said, at this point I'll hold off for a bit, then maybe take it to Best Buy Geek guys, or maybe even ask Dell if they would do the work.
Dust is a big factor in the sandbox. Very fine dust, everywhere, day after day. Laptops aren't typically dustproof, and they get blown out with compressed air from time to time A dustproof phone would be a plus. Some water resistance would be nice, too.
By the way - took my new W10 laptop to a local computer guy who has replaced many hard drives with SSD's. Well, he couldn't make the exchange - couldn't get the replacement SSD to work, due, he believes, to W10 security provisions that won't allow hardware change-outs except under authorized (manufacturer) situations.
So, I have more confidence in W10. But I also do not have an SSD equipped laptop, which would have been nice. It cost a lot less to do a switch after purchase than pay the maker for the SSD upfront, but my effort to save a few bucks (well, more than a few) now consigns me to a slower experience.
Maybe at some point I can return it to the maker for an upgrade/change out - DDS prices are on a steady decline.
I had not looked closely at the HP phone - based on your description, it sound serious. I just checked specs, and it looks serious. Hmmmm. What does HP think it can do that MSFT can't? Sell directly to business/gov in a package with other hardware? That could work, but apparently MSFT didn't think it was a promising approach. Or perhaps MSFT is simply leaving the field to HP - after all, MSFT greatly prefers to focus on software and leave hardware to partners, as long as the partners produce. No one was producing a serious Windows phone except Nokia, and MSFT couldn't count on them long term, so MSFT bought a phone company. Now MSFT can make their own phones, but, again, would prefer others make the hardware. If HP is successful with Windows-based hardware and phones, that help MSFT, and zero cost (well, opportunity cost - no tangible cost) to MSFT.
Clarification - when I say I think HP will be a better partner, I'm not suggesting HP and MSFT will formally work together better. My intent was to say that with the split in HP, the part of the old HP that services business/gov will not be more focused on business/gov, and the better focused HP is, the more they will sell, and better they will serve business/gov. In that process HP will inevitably sell more MSFT software since MSFT software is the platform for business/gov digital. Similar with Dell - the better Dell hardware (with MSFT software) the better business and gov is served, and the more firmly entrenched.
Digital is hardware and software. One half cannot get ahead of the other half - they move forward in tandem. If hardware lags, the overall digital experience and capability lags. If HP and Dell make and sell better hardware, the better for MSFT.
Regarding 5G - I think 5G will have tremendous impact on digital - equivalent to the impact of the Internet. Data transfer speed will see huge increases - anything you want, wherever you are, with no lags. The scope of wireless will expand to routinely include "things" and there are plenty of "things" out there - many more "things" than people. Add the dynamic interaction (permutations) between these things and people, and the world of data expands exponentially. That's good for Intel, and for MSFT.
Windows is aptly named as it is the window through which most people access this exponentially expanding digital universe of increasingly fundamental importance to every aspect of business and society..
Data is processed by Intel, and accessed through MSFT. Not a bad strategic place to be for Intel and MSFT as a business, or as an investor.
Emphasis - I think HP will be a better partner to MSFT, going forward, than they were in the past, given the HP split and the subsequent increased focus. For Dell - with Dell going private, one can make a case that Dell, too, will prove a better partner to MSFT than it was in the past - a partner willing to make investments in innovation, and take risks on new hardware. We'll see.
Consumer mobile remains the weak part of MSFT. Nokia/phones were poorly managed/executed, and I'll point the finger at Nadella for that. I'm sure he points his finger at Balmer and Elop, but at that point Nadella did not pick-up the ball and run with it - he pointed fingers, and then said "Cloud". To be fair, Intel also blew it on mobile, at least for now.
Two great companies, two false starts trying to play catch-up in mobile. Sooner or later they'll get it right. 5G will be the next opportunity for both of them - new hardware standards, new hardware, will require new software, and that will create new opportunities. I hope Apple and Google are busy making cars at that point....