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    STOP THE AID TO ISRAEL NOW

    by corebelief Mar 21, 2015 2:08 PM
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  • Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's come-from-behind re-election victory this week, fueled by an overt embrace of apartheid policy and racist fear-mongering about Arab voters, has put the United States in a difficult situation. So long as Netanyahu pretended that he was committed to democratic values and a two-state solution, the Americans could look the other way or blame Palestinian intransigence for a lack of progress.

    But now, despite some shameless backtracking, it's clear that Netanyahu is, at best, an unreliable partner for peace, if not an outright foe of an independent Palestine. As many have pointed out, the divergence of U.S. and Israeli interests has never been more pronounced, and the big question is how the U.S. should adjust. While the Obama administration has indicated it may support a United Nations resolution calling for an independent Palestine along 1967 borders, it should go even further: by cutting the U.S.'s massive subsidies to Israel and withdrawing diplomatic cover for Netanyahu's every move.

    Of course, unquestioning deference to Israeli priorities is still essentially mandatory in U.S. politics — even Sen. Elizabeth Warren doesn't challenge them. But if the Israeli prime minister is flat-out admitting that the West Bank and Gaza will never be rid of the occupation no matter what, then that deference will eventually become untenable.

    Now that the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are winding down, Israel has reclaimed its spot as top recipient of American aid dollars. In the 2015 budget, the Obama administration has requested (and will almost certainly receive) $3.1 billion in aid to Israel, or $378.33 per Israeli citizen. As Matt Yglesias shows, on a per-capita basis, this is six times what Afghanistan gets as the second-largest recipient, and 94 times what Nigeria gets as the fifth-largest.

    It's a mark of Israel's massive influence in American politics that it keeps getting that money despite the fact that foreign aid is consistently the least popular kind of government spending — and doubly so because Israel is a rich country that plainly needs no aid.

    But Israel's wealth also means that cutting aid off would not concretely harm its military readiness. Israel has plenty of its own money for that. Most of the U.S. aid money is spent on U.S. military hardware anyway; probably the only entities that would be significantly affected would be American defense contractors.

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    really

    by corebelief Mar 20, 2015 4:15 PM
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  • corebelief by corebelief Mar 20, 2015 4:15 PM Flag

    When you look for a pattern in Netanyahu’s behavior – the settlements, the ethnic demagoguery, the speech to Congress, the retraction of his commitment to an independent Palestine – no moral principle unites them. What unites them is audacity and calculation. Netanyahu does whatever he thinks he can get away with. That’s how he describes the thinking of his adversaries, because that’s how he thinks, too. If you listen to Israeli leaders who are trying to influence the behavior of their nation’s enemies, the word you’ll hear again and again is price.



    That’s why Israel has descended to its current level of disregard for others. It hasn’t paid a price.

    The question is whether, and how, that might change, and whether Netanyahu’s recent antics have been outrageous enough to cause fundamental shifts.



    To that end, a White House official told reporters yesterday that President Obama “told the prime minister that we will need to reassess our options following the prime minister’s new positions and comments regarding the two state solution.”



    Netanyahu, of course, is trying to add some nuance to his pre-election posturing, arguing yesterday that he has no “new” position, but few find the spin persuasive. It’s certainly possible, if not likely, that the prime minister doesn’t much care – he may be under the impression that there will be no consequences for his actions that have frayed U.S./Israeli ties. Indeed, American Republicans are eager to reinforce that impression – House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) announced last night that he’s traveling to Israel “in about a week.”



    But American foreign policy remains in the president’s hands, and Obama seems reluctant to simply let Netanyahu’s misdeeds slide.



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    "That’s why Israel the Republican Party has descended to its current level of disregard for others. It hasn’t paid a price." Fixed.

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    How about if we withhold foreign aid to Israel? That would certainly put a price on their conduct.

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    Why is John Boehner going to Israel? Spring Break on our dime?

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  • corebelief by corebelief Mar 20, 2015 4:13 PM Flag

    When you look for a pattern in Netanyahu’s behavior – the settlements, the ethnic demagoguery, the speech to Congress, the retraction of his commitment to an independent Palestine – no moral principle unites them. What unites them is audacity and calculation. Netanyahu does whatever he thinks he can get away with. That’s how he describes the thinking of his adversaries, because that’s how he thinks, too. If you listen to Israeli leaders who are trying to influence the behavior of their nation’s enemies, the word you’ll hear again and again is price.



    That’s why Israel has descended to its current level of disregard for others. It hasn’t paid a price.

    The question is whether, and how, that might change, and whether Netanyahu’s recent antics have been outrageous enough to cause fundamental shifts.



    To that end, a White House official told reporters yesterday that President Obama “told the prime minister that we will need to reassess our options following the prime minister’s new positions and comments regarding the two state solution.”



    Netanyahu, of course, is trying to add some nuance to his pre-election posturing, arguing yesterday that he has no “new” position, but few find the spin persuasive. It’s certainly possible, if not likely, that the prime minister doesn’t much care – he may be under the impression that there will be no consequences for his actions that have frayed U.S./Israeli ties. Indeed, American Republicans are eager to reinforce that impression – House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) announced last night that he’s traveling to Israel “in about a week.”



    But American foreign policy remains in the president’s hands, and Obama seems reluctant to simply let Netanyahu’s misdeeds slide.



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  • corebelief corebelief Mar 13, 2015 2:57 PM Flag

    check

  • corebelief corebelief Mar 13, 2015 2:57 PM Flag

    YOU ARE KILLING CHILDREN FOR WHAT???

  • corebelief corebelief Mar 13, 2015 2:57 PM Flag

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  • corebelief corebelief Mar 13, 2015 2:57 PM Flag

    I am sometimes asked if I have any regrets about publishing our book. As of today, my only regret is that it is not being published now. After the humiliations that Obama has endured at the hands of the Israel Lobby and the Hagel circus, we would sell even more copies and we would not face nearly as much ill-informed criticism. — Stephen Walt, co-author of the book.
    I am sometimes asked if I have any regrets about publishing our book. As of today, my only regret is that it is not being published now. After the humiliations that Obama has endured at the hands of the Israel Lobby and the Hagel circus, we would sell even more copies and we would not face nearly as much ill-informed criticism. — Stephen Walt, co-author of the book.

    For decades the Israelis have lived off our largesse without having to offer anything of value in return – unless Israeli interference in American politics is considered of value. We’ve handed them over $3 billion a year in tribute, stood by while they subjected their Palestinian helots to conditions not seen since South Africa’s apartheid, and smiled tolerantly, as one would at an obstreperous child, while they noisily spat in our faces at every opportunity.

    And what have we gotten in return? Insults, interference, and outright threats – not to mention one of the most effective (and obnoxious) spying operations conducted on our soil by a foreign power.

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    israel

    by corebelief Mar 13, 2015 2:50 PM
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  • corebelief by corebelief Mar 13, 2015 2:50 PM Flag

    I am sometimes asked if I have any regrets about publishing our book. As of today, my only regret is that it is not being published now. After the humiliations that Obama has endured at the hands of the Israel Lobby and the Hagel circus, we would sell even more copies and we would not face nearly as much ill-informed criticism. — Stephen Walt, co-author of the book.
    I am sometimes asked if I have any regrets about publishing our book. As of today, my only regret is that it is not being published now. After the humiliations that Obama has endured at the hands of the Israel Lobby and the Hagel circus, we would sell even more copies and we would not face nearly as much ill-informed criticism. — Stephen Walt, co-author of the book.

    For decades the Israelis have lived off our largesse without having to offer anything of value in return – unless Israeli interference in American politics is considered of value. We’ve handed them over $3 billion a year in tribute, stood by while they subjected their Palestinian helots to conditions not seen since South Africa’s apartheid, and smiled tolerantly, as one would at an obstreperous child, while they noisily spat in our faces at every opportunity.

    And what have we gotten in return? Insults, interference, and outright threats – not to mention one of the most effective (and obnoxious) spying operations conducted on our soil by a foreign power.

  • Only he knows best and it is his responsibility to convey the ultimate truth

  • corebelief by corebelief Feb 17, 2015 3:19 PM Flag

    GOOD GOLLY WHAT DID SHE SAY???????????????

  • corebelief corebelief Feb 17, 2015 3:16 PM Flag

    DOES HE HAVE A STUD SERVICE?????????????

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    I banged her so; She spoke in Tongues

    by james-hornback Feb 17, 2015 2:47 PM
    corebelief corebelief Feb 17, 2015 3:15 PM Flag

    what does that mean???

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