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crzyweasle 14 posts  |  Last Activity: Jan 15, 2015 3:13 PM Member since: Feb 25, 1998
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  • crzyweasle crzyweasle Jan 15, 2015 3:13 PM Flag

    The people who run Yahoo mixed Chinese currency with US when entering the data. For accurate data on BIDU go to the NASDAQ web site. It's not just this stock. They make the same mistake of not converting currencies on other foreign stocks. This is the state of our education system today. LOL.

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    Fertilizer prices up. Nat gas down.

    by mattpco27 Jan 12, 2015 10:18 AM
    crzyweasle crzyweasle Jan 12, 2015 10:43 AM Flag

    I've been noting that there has been a flight to safety in stocks... people looking for dividends. I think the worry is that interest rates are going up which will cause bond prices to fall. And, with energy suffering, the market is looking for dividend safety elsewhere. That also fits into your scenario of natural gas prices being low. I've done well on airlines, as well, because of lower jet fuel prices. In my opinion, Terra is a safe dividend stock at these low prices, so that is attracting buyers. The idea is that you can get in at a low price now, and when the turnaround is over it will go up, and you get the nice dividend on top of that. I'm retired, so I hold stocks like these for dividend distributions only, not too concerned about price. But, it's nice to see it go up.

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    ok, stop falling already

    by buffettwagon Nov 18, 2014 1:16 PM
    crzyweasle crzyweasle Dec 14, 2014 4:34 PM Flag

    True. Not sure when a good time would be to get in. You might be able to wait three months and still get a price similar to this. After that, I think the stock will start rising, plus their dividend will improve because they have to distribute it. I do think it is about at its bottom. Obviously, I could be wrong, but looking at ag prices, I think there will be demand for their products. Those expensive beeves need lots of grain :)

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    ok, stop falling already

    by buffettwagon Nov 18, 2014 1:16 PM
    crzyweasle crzyweasle Dec 12, 2014 6:58 PM Flag

    Most people buy this because they have to distribute most of their profits as dividends. They don't care about price, but the dividend. So, the price drops down to where people are interested in their dividend. With the temporary plant closing, obviously, the dividend has to go down and the price does, too. This is when you buy, though. It's a bad thing for those who held through this, but for buyers right now it's a good thing because you are going to get the good dividend and its prices is likely to go up over the course of the next couple of years. It's a cyclical stock with a cyclical dividend now at its bottom.

    Sentiment: Buy

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    How can they claim a forward P/E of under 5???

    by k4mrdue Dec 11, 2014 9:59 AM
    crzyweasle crzyweasle Dec 11, 2014 10:49 PM Flag

    PEG is not a valuation metric, if you ask me. The estimates are it will make around $8.67 a share a year from now. At a $200 price, that would only be only 4.3% profit. The average stock makes around 6% profit per year historically. I want to get closer to that 6% even though there are more "promises" beyond 2015. Promises are nice, but promises are all I get with this stock without a dividend. That's why I sold out awhile back and am looking for another opportunity to get back in at a realistic valuation.

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    How can they claim a forward P/E of under 5???

    by k4mrdue Dec 11, 2014 9:59 AM
    crzyweasle crzyweasle Dec 11, 2014 4:35 PM Flag

    Yahoo data for BIDU are all screwed up and it has been for a very long time. I've told them about it, but they have done nothing to fix it. I've posted here about it, and they ignore that, too. Here's what I think they are doing wrong. Whoever is entering the data does not realize that it is reported in CNY in some reports and USD in others. They have no clue about the different currencies and are just typing the numbers without thinking, mixing currencies willy nilly without any regard to conversions. The best place to go for proper data on BIDU is NASDAQ, here: http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/bidu You will find the Yahoo data for many foreign companies share this same problem. The Forward PE is around 36, which is too high even for a company that can grow its profits by as much as this one. This stock should probably be selling at a lower multiple and carry a price today of around $180. I would not buy it at this price. I sold awhile back and am waiting for a lower price to get back in. (I don't short stocks. That is stupid when you have to pay to do it, and there are always stocks you can buy that are going up, and the long-term history of the stock market is up, up and up.)

    Sentiment: Sell

  • crzyweasle crzyweasle Dec 5, 2014 12:39 AM Flag

    They Chinese just announced they are printing more money, so it could be a reaction to that. I don't know.

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    What happened today? 12/3/14

    by albayless Dec 3, 2014 10:38 PM
    crzyweasle crzyweasle Dec 5, 2014 12:17 AM Flag

    OK, I found my login to the Oppenheimer.com web site and logged in. It shows that i have 11.8% more shares than I had the last time I entered my number of shares for this. So, yes, apparently, they issued a share dividend of some sort. My estimate may not be accurate in that I may have not have kept up with how many shares I have for some time. But, based on the last time I updated my number of shares, that is the increase for my account. I hope this helps. Whew... you just hate seeing something like that happen all of the sudden with no warning.

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    What happened today? 12/3/14

    by albayless Dec 3, 2014 10:38 PM
    crzyweasle crzyweasle Dec 3, 2014 11:57 PM Flag

    I checked a larger set of their investments on Morningstar, around 70%. They netted up today, too. This is apparently a glitch of some sort.

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    What happened today? 12/3/14

    by albayless Dec 3, 2014 10:38 PM
    crzyweasle crzyweasle Dec 3, 2014 11:37 PM Flag

    I noticed that, too, but I'm thinking it has to be some sort of reporting error not something that actually happened. It just seems impossible considering their top 10 netted up today and those 10 are 30% of their portfolio.

  • crzyweasle crzyweasle Nov 28, 2014 12:26 PM Flag

    Get a Ford. My batteries last four or five years at least.

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    And we dipped under 23

    by ntcse Nov 10, 2014 5:40 PM
    crzyweasle crzyweasle Nov 12, 2014 10:56 AM Flag

    They are just taking profits. Keep in mind that some institutional investors have limits to the percent of their portfolio they can have in one stock. When a stock goes up this fast, they have to sell and that can depress prices temporarily on a stock like this.

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    Buy Opp for Trimble yet again for TRMB longs.

    by biggerwigg Oct 31, 2014 5:50 PM
    crzyweasle crzyweasle Nov 4, 2014 12:06 PM Flag

    Estimate are more than 8% growth in profits 2015 over 2014... cash flow to market cap is still good. Yes, estimates were lowered, but price is lower, too. And, I'm invested in lots of good companies. This one is good, too, at this price. I would not recommend it at $30, but at $27 it's a good price.

    Sentiment: Buy

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    Buy Opp for Trimble yet again for TRMB longs.

    by biggerwigg Oct 31, 2014 5:50 PM
    crzyweasle crzyweasle Nov 2, 2014 1:17 AM Flag

    Low debt, plenty of cash, excellent cash flow, growing profits, down to a very reasonable price... good time to step in for the first time or add more shares.

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